I have never seen a football team play with less emotion than Texas. They just seem to go through the motions. They need to get with it like Coach Red Bull. Did I really hear an announcer call him that?
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The sportswriters I talked to after the game said Texas played with plenty of emotion early. But after 5 turnovers and West Virginia's punishing run game, the emotional letdown was obvious.
Still, this is a very substandard Texas team.
Still, this is a very substandard Texas team.
How Dana hasn't had a heart attack, or at least a stroke baffles me. I'm young, in good shape, manage my stress well, eat healthy for the most part, exercise in some shape or form everyday & I had a heart attack at 39. Dana is constantly in a rage & chugs Red Bull like frat kid on a Call of Duty binge & nothing.
The VERY first thing they asked me once they stabilized me after my heart attack was, "Do you drink energy drinks?"
The VERY first thing they asked me once they stabilized me after my heart attack was, "Do you drink energy drinks?"
My hearing isn't the best, but I was sure I heard the announcers say Coach Red Bull.
I watched the entire game. Even early when TX was competing there was not much visual indication that they were in the game. For instance, the QB is not accurate, but there was no extra effort the receivers to make a play.
By "down year," are you referring to the only conference in the country with 4 teams ranked in the AP Top 11 this week?
I know what you're trying to do but you should at least make a half assed effort be honest and give credit, however begrudginly, where it's due.
Big 12 is a pretty good league this year and teams at the top will start cannibalizing each other but I think it'should a little disingenuous to refer to them as having a down year.
What?! There's plenty to say about wvu & Holgorsen.
I can't understand how any sane wvu fan thinks Holgorsen is worth the money you're paying him. He was specifically hired to win Big12 championships AND put you in a position to play for national titles. Every year since joining the Big12, Holgerson's mountaineers have a stretch where they lose at least four out of five games. In '12 they lost five in a row & only won two out of their final eight. In '13 wvu only won 4 games & didn't even make it to a bowl game. In '14, wvu lost four out of their last five games & no bowl victory. This year is no different - yet another four game block of loss. Your team not only went an entire month without winning a single game, but they gave up 179 points in the process.
You guys are either going to get rid of him this year or next, pick your poison. If you keep him, it's predicated on two things. He wins out this year & how well he does next year. And wvu loses a whole bunch of talented players this year. Plus you simply don't have a quality FBS qb that's going to emerge next year to play well enough to produce results on that team will get him a contract extension. Dana's numbers are not good enough to retain him as a head coach if you have expectations of your team being an actual contender. If Holgorsen can't recruit &/or develop a qb that can run his offense, then not only will your team not win a title under his leadership, you guys won't even get within striking distance.
Wvu used to be a record holder for most consecutive bowl losses, a number that Dana seems to be chasing if he lasts that long. However, if he doesn't get to, or win a bowl game this year, an entire graduating class (wvu has 4 year graduation rates on par with other US colleges) will go through the school never witnessing their team win a bowl game.
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I like how you needed to stretch the top 10 to one more spot to fit 4 teams in and make it an awkward Top 11.
I say 'down' because Texas and OU haven't both been good in a while. When either team has a bad year, the entire conference suffers. They ARE the face of it. Why else would TCU AND Baylor both be left out last season? Oh, thats because they are hardly the historic presence of either OU or UT.
...and what credit should be due to begin with? That post was about wvu...should I give them credit for being able to walk after the 4 game long raping they took last month? Alright, congrats wvu, you're officially off the probe list for apace aliens since they can see how far up your own asses you are from space.
The current state of this Big 12 is that Texas is awful, OU had a bad game vs. Texas and in any event has had a coach stay too long and has become mediocre, OU and several field fillers are competing for the top of this mediocre outfit, and several teams are among the worst in football. WVU is competing for 5th. WVU might finish 5th, it might finish 8th. It really does not matter.
In the long run, WVU will ALWAYS be shooting for 5th. When (not if) Texas moves on from Strong and OU gets right, this will be the "Big 2, Little 8" deal it was designed by Texas to be. However the improvements at the other field fillers is undeniable, and WVU will be in the mix for 5th through 8th, every year.
That is all WVU can be and all WVU fans should ever expect. Marshall fans, should also, however remember that the bottom of the Big 12 is so awful that pretty much WVU is guarenteed a meaningless bowl every year.
In the long run, WVU will ALWAYS be shooting for 5th. When (not if) Texas moves on from Strong and OU gets right, this will be the "Big 2, Little 8" deal it was designed by Texas to be. However the improvements at the other field fillers is undeniable, and WVU will be in the mix for 5th through 8th, every year.
That is all WVU can be and all WVU fans should ever expect. Marshall fans, should also, however remember that the bottom of the Big 12 is so awful that pretty much WVU is guarenteed a meaningless bowl every year.
Stoops has OU playing very well right now. They basically control their own destiny, if they win out they will be in the Top 4. I don't think any of the top teams would want to play Oklahoma right now.
The Big 12 is a VERY good conference. WVU hired Dana to compete in the Big 12 to transition to the style of play. I really am split on Dana right now, but WVU will probably be favored from here on out and go 8-4. 8-4 in the Big 12 is a decent record. Not great, I want better, but decent.
The Big 12 is a VERY good conference. WVU hired Dana to compete in the Big 12 to transition to the style of play. I really am split on Dana right now, but WVU will probably be favored from here on out and go 8-4. 8-4 in the Big 12 is a decent record. Not great, I want better, but decent.
Thanks for the reply, G&B. This is the sort of post from a WVU fan I'll allow on HN.
G and B I'm sorry but if Oklahoma and Notre Dame win out there is no way Oklahoma jumps Notre Dame and I despise Notre Dame. But that would give Notre Dame and Oklahoma at 11-1. Notre Dame lost on the road in a rainstorm to the number 1 team in the country by 2 points. Oklahoma lost to a horrible Texas team on a neutral field. Also Oklahoma played Baylor with their second string quarterback and there is a good chance they play TCU with their backup qb which lessens the impact of those wins.
Now personally I agree with you. Oklahoma is playing great and I think they could beat anybody but I just don't think that Texas loss can be overcome if Notre Dame wins out.
b12 overrated with the top teams padding records vs WVU, Kansas, kstate and Iowa state,
Yep. Remember what this Big 12 is. Everybody with a choice got out. So you have two teams trying to move up from mid-major status (TCU and WVU) and six historically bad teams no other conference wanted, plus OU and Texas. Some are doing OK, some are not, but this is not the same as the other four leagues. It was designed for Texas and OU to dominate (and will eventually be that) and everybody else fight for 3rd.
All WVU can every expect is a good year and being 5th and going to the whatever bowl. But any halfway decent team can do that, considering the cupcake bottom of that woeful bunch.
It depends on how the committee looks at Oklahoma and Notre Dame. Sure, ND has the "better loss". But Oklahoma would have better wins. @ Baylor, @ Ok State would be better than any ND win. The Texas loss looks terrible, but that is the nature of that rivalry. I personally just think Oklahoma is the better team. I don't think Notre Dame will get past Stanford on the road honestly, so it won't matter.
Sam C "WVU is almost guaranteed a meaningless bowl every year." What "meaningful" bowls do we or have we played in?
Don't think OK deserves to be in and not sure they will beat OSU. Straight up, Sooners lose to Ohio State, Bama and Clemson. Hopefully, Big 12 team will not be in the playoff. Saw Notre Dame play one game and they were impressive even with reserve qb, running back and several other starters out. Won't be surprised that they would whip Oklahoma head to head also. Like others said, OU win over Baylor is somewhat "tainted" and same would apply to TCU, again with Frogs star qb out.
Also Big 12 NOT A VERY GOOD CONFERENCE. Top 2 or 3 teams very good, Texas and Kansas State being way down hurts. WVU and Tex. Tech are middle of pack teams and not that strong overall. Others SUCK BIG TIME!!
Different discussion.
WVU where, according to Ollie (Everything I Touch Turns To S*** ) Luck, "9-3 is not acceptable" is finished with even the second tier of bowls. However by playing its rediculious non-conference schedule and the woeful joke cupcakes at the bottom of the Big 12, it is going to get in some bowl every year. It has 6 wins in hand every year before it steps on the field. If you are the type of fan where "my favoriate team is Marshall and second is whoever is playing WVU" then you have to just accept that WVU is guarenteed a mediocre season automatically. The big question for WVU is will its fairweather fan base tire of this? I say they will. WVU is incapable of doing more, no matter the coach.
Marshall, in the "group of 5", is in a system where 13-0 = NY6 bowl and anything less = Boca, etc. It is what it is, but I see no signs that MU's loyal fans have any problem with that.
I agree...Marshall's goal everybyear should be the Access Bowl. As of now, thats about as good as we can get. Until expansion for the CFP or someone actually can get into the playoff, its what we can aim for.
And I am perfectly fine with that.
What is ridiculous about WVU's non-conference schedule? WVU plays 3 non-conference games per year. Last year, WVU played Alabama, Maryland, and one FCS. This year, Georgia Southern (who would likely beat Marshall this year) replaced Alabama, so this year was much easier. However, next year, WVU plays Missouri, BYU, and Youngstown. Lyons announced that after next season, WVU will no longer play FCS schools. In the next eight years, WVU has 16 games scheduled against Missouri (2), Maryland (4), NC State (2), Pitt (2), Tennessee (1), Virginia Tech (3), and Penn State (2). In most years, WVU will play 11 games against P5 schools and one against a G5 school. If by ridiculous non-conference schedule you mean ridiculously difficult, then you may be right.
And outside of Kansas, who are the "joke cupcakes" in the Big XII? If Marshall were to play all the Big XII schools this season at neutral sites, Marshall would likely be favored in no more than 2 games (Kansas and Iowa State).
WOW! that's good to know about your future schedule and dumping the FCS games. i look forward to drinking your tears...
Yet hilljackers flock here to deal with the no count team that no one should be interested in and has no right to talk about other teams. I guess it is just a hilljack phenomenon.
Poor pitiful wvu fans...always trying to pretend they are relevant.
"Our schedule is hard! We belong!"
"Our schedule is hard! We belong!"
awwww look! even more 'eers come out of the closet after knocking off mighty Kansas!
if these guys can pull the upset against the mighty Cyclones next week we may very well see some couches go up in smoke.
if these guys can pull the upset against the mighty Cyclones next week we may very well see some couches go up in smoke.
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