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Thank you Pitt!

Yeah. But, they're still National Champions.....right?

It's definitely ridiculous when teams go undefeated and claim to be national champions. I think the playoff system should figure out a way to include all undefeated teams regardless so they can play until someone beats them, but the argument that you went undefeated means therefore you share some national title is a joke.
 
The mind controllers at ESPN want the “little engine that could” story, which is to say a mid-major program that is over-achieving and looking more like a true major program to stay in the same place. UCF and Boise State. It just does not work that way. The story has been moving around the country for many decades, including spending several years in Huntington.

On the business side, IF (largest word in the world) the Big 12 can save itself in the coming next great realignment, UCF was looking at that. That will not happen now.

Hail To Pitt.
 
The mind controllers at ESPN want the “little engine that could” story, which is to say a mid-major program that is over-achieving and looking more like a true major program to stay in the same place. UCF and Boise State. It just does not work that way. The story has been moving around the country for many decades, including spending several years in Huntington.

On the business side, IF (largest word in the world) the Big 12 can save itself in the coming next great realignment, UCF was looking at that. That will not happen now.

Hail To Pitt.

Yes one loss changes everything.
 
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If the playoff system expands the Big 12 may survive. I don’t think the Big 12 is going to expand. They went down that road.

There is ZERO justification to what you are saying. ZERO. The Big 12 is the 3rd most lucrative conference in the country. And yes I have heard the 'well texas and oklahoma' argument many times. Every conference has their powerhouses. Imagine the Big 10 without Ohio State, Penn State and Michigan. Imagine the ACC without Clemson and Florida State. Imagine the PAC 12 without USC and Oregon.

Double Digit million in revenue EVERY year per team. Im sorry you don't 'see' it.... but the proof is in the pudding. In case you didn't know- in the NCAA money talks and bullshit walks...
 
There is ZERO justification to what you are saying. ZERO. The Big 12 is the 3rd most lucrative conference in the country. And yes I have heard the 'well texas and oklahoma' argument many times. Every conference has their powerhouses. Imagine the Big 10 without Ohio State, Penn State and Michigan. Imagine the ACC without Clemson and Florida State. Imagine the PAC 12 without USC and Oregon.

Double Digit million in revenue EVERY year per team. Im sorry you don't 'see' it.... but the proof is in the pudding. In case you didn't know- in the NCAA money talks and bullshit walks...
I’m not sure what point you trying to make. But, I do believe there is a chance the P5 goes to 4 conferences. If that would happen the Big 12 seems the conference most likely to break up. All though I think those odds are slim. If the playoff would expand to 8 teams then the Big 12 has solidified its self as a conference. Most conferences have always been dominate by one or two programs. That will never change. I think we are closer on this issue than you think. UCF, Houston or anyone else in the AAC will not get a seat at the P5 table.
 
I’m not sure what point you trying to make. But, I do believe there is a chance the P5 goes to 4 conferences. If that would happen the Big 12 seems the conference most likely to break up. All though I think those odds are slim. If the playoff would expand to 8 teams then the Big 12 has solidified its self as a conference. Most conferences have always been dominate by one or two programs. That will never change. I think we are closer on this issue than you think. UCF, Houston or anyone else in the AAC will not get a seat at the P5 table.

The point I am making is Marshall fans have been hoping/praying/talking about the Big 12 breaking up for years, constantly predicting it's demise. And what I am telling you is that the 3rd most lucrative conference and the 2nd biggest TV contract is not going to falter, even if the conferences move to 4. Maybe in 15 years the landscape will change, but it's nowhere near ANYTHING of the like in the next decade at minimum.
 
Realignment and 8-team playoff questions will all be answered by dollars and sense. Will revenue increase more with more playoff games, will TV dollars be greater if you have more or fewer schools in the hunt for those spots. The current standoff between Comcast and Disney/ESPN/ACC Network is just the start of a long 2-3 years of pushing and shoving without much concern for "traditional" conference alignments. Is there more money to be made if Texas and Oklahoma are part of a different conference? Is having four "top" tier conferences more beneficial than five? Is there a way to create a section B of CUSA, AAC and others that brings in more (or even as much) as now? Which would generate more fan interest (ratings), a 2nd level national championship or an outside chance one of the Other schools gets a slot in an 8 team playoff? Behind the scenes people are looking closely at how many people are cutting cable, subscribing to streams, watching games online, and what trends are happening in donations, attendance, etc. Just my guess but by 2023 we will see the beginning of another era in college football, or maybe just a more structured setup to what is already happening.
 
The two team playoff was worse than the bowl system, the four team playoff is worse than the two team playoff, and the eight team, and eventually 12, then 16, playoff will be worse than the four team.

There was nothing wrong with playing the big bowls on New Years Day and having the AP and UPI pick a champion. Playoffs are a solution in search of a problem.

As to the coming next great realignment, it comes down, as the last one did to Texas. Disney is losing money by the buckets full on the Longhorn Network and would love to engineer a different deal.
 
I’m not sure what point you trying to make. But, I do believe there is a chance the P5 goes to 4 conferences. If that would happen the Big 12 seems the conference most likely to break up. All though I think those odds are slim. If the playoff would expand to 8 teams then the Big 12 has solidified its self as a conference. Most conferences have always been dominate by one or two programs. That will never change. I think we are closer on this issue than you think. UCF, Houston or anyone else in the AAC will not get a seat at the P5 table.

He's not making a point.
Claims to be thick skinned then gets butt hurt when wvu is spoken down upon.
But thats their reality.
He mentioned that the Big Ten, Big 12, ACC, Pac 12 are nothing without 2-3 top teams.
He's right.
He thinks wvu is a part of that.
He's wrong.

Any one of those schools would leave to make more money. Its been obvious since the original Big 12 broke up. Nebraska left a ton behind in terms of tradition and rivalries.
It came out that Texas was basically disallowing others to make money or bullying themselves around. Texas A&M didn't like it, left, and transitioned to the SEC. Missouri left as well.
As for expenses? The elite colleges take care of one another. They'll float the bill for a departing Texas if Texas just doesn't have an alumn simply write the exit fee on a check and turn it in themselves.
My point is wvu is part of a conference like the Big 12 based entirely on association only. Does wvu even generate the revenue the top 2 schools in the Big 12 make? Hell, TCU completely re-did their stadium which cost tens of millions of dollars...from like 7 alumni who pooled their money together to do so. That was on a wvu radio show talking about how wvu "has money and good alumni, but are far, far behind plenty of others" in said conference.
TCU doesn't make nearly as much as UT or OU and isn't as recognized as they are.
 
The point I am making is Marshall fans have been hoping/praying/talking about the Big 12 breaking up for years, constantly predicting it's demise. And what I am telling you is that the 3rd most lucrative conference and the 2nd biggest TV contract is not going to falter, even if the conferences move to 4. Maybe in 15 years the landscape will change, but it's nowhere near ANYTHING of the like in the next decade at minimum.
I believe that most Marshall fans are not waisting any prayers on the Big 12. I know I don’t give damn. Why? It doesn’t have any impact on MU. As far as WVU...they draw a nice paycheck from that conference. Will they ever be able to compete with money the other schools have? Never. WVU is equal to Minnesota in the Big 10, Mississippi State of the SEC, California of the PAC and maybe Virginia Tech of the ACC. Middle of the pack football program. Nothing more.
 
He's not making a point.
Claims to be thick skinned then gets butt hurt when wvu is spoken down upon.
But thats their reality.
He mentioned that the Big Ten, Big 12, ACC, Pac 12 are nothing without 2-3 top teams.
He's right.
He thinks wvu is a part of that.
He's wrong.

Any one of those schools would leave to make more money. Its been obvious since the original Big 12 broke up. Nebraska left a ton behind in terms of tradition and rivalries.
It came out that Texas was basically disallowing others to make money or bullying themselves around. Texas A&M didn't like it, left, and transitioned to the SEC. Missouri left as well.
As for expenses? The elite colleges take care of one another. They'll float the bill for a departing Texas if Texas just doesn't have an alumn simply write the exit fee on a check and turn it in themselves.
My point is wvu is part of a conference like the Big 12 based entirely on association only. Does wvu even generate the revenue the top 2 schools in the Big 12 make? Hell, TCU completely re-did their stadium which cost tens of millions of dollars...from like 7 alumni who pooled their money together to do so. That was on a wvu radio show talking about how wvu "has money and good alumni, but are far, far behind plenty of others" in said conference.
TCU doesn't make nearly as much as UT or OU and isn't as recognized as they are.

All conversations have the one person who just doesn't really get it... Kind of like the C- student. It doesn't mean you're a bad person, rather just not the brightest bulb. We all have our crosses to bear, inferring/context/intellect is just yours. No big deal
 
All conversations have the one person who just doesn't really get it... Kind of like the C- student. It doesn't mean you're a bad person, rather just not the brightest bulb. We all have our crosses to bear, inferring/context/intellect is just yours. No big deal

But yet here you are...making a big deal out of it.
 
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