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Thankfully I don't vote in WV anymore

No, these discussions further prove that you guys have West Virginia taste. You don't have the trained eye. You see Avril and see the green and pink hair, punk outfits, and the emo makeup, similar to this:


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I see great facial structure and a kick-ass little body just waiting to be naked:


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If she, not dressed in her punk outfits and emo makeup, were to walk into a restaurant, the entire place would think "damn, that girl is fvcking hot."

Since you can't see what's underneath the clothes and makeup, you aren't able to see that, so calling her "underrated" seems absurd to you.

But lets test my theory again: we already went over JR Rotem dating her, who has also dated other prime hot slvts. Who else did Avril date? She dated Brody Jenner, one of Hollywood's biggest playboys. Around the same years, who had he also dated? Smokeshow Kristin Cavallari (now the wife of Jay Cutler); smokeshow Lauren Conrad; smokeshow and Playmate Jayde Nicole; smokeshow Paris Hilton; smokeshow and Playmate Bryana Holly; smokeshow and Playmate Cora Skinner. Now, if you don't think Avril is good looking and severely underrated, do you think a guy who has had a long history of dating Playmates and famous smokeshows would suddenly date her?

Clearly you have a thing for girls with ****ed-up teeth. Avril has that Kirsten Dunst pebble-looking grill.
 
She is hot, but not earth shattering.
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And you continue introducing straw men to this. I've never said she was "earth shattering" or a 10. I said she was a smokeshow. You just said she was hot. If she is hot, she is a smokeshow. You clearly don't know what that word means.

The term "smokeshow" rose to fame mostly due to barstoolsports using it as part of their daily feature. Each day, they would have a "smokeshow of the day" that consisted of a college girl's pictures being featured. They weren't "earth shattering" or 10s. They were hot girls, A.K.A., "smokeshows."


I said I could find 100 women that were hotter at Marshall and I bet I could.

And you're completely out of your mind. I dated and/or fvcked the hottest girls at Marshall, both during my time and after my time there. The Marshall girls included numerous cheerleaders, dance girls, one girl who ended up being in Playboy, etc. Looking at pictures of them from back then, I can't think of one off of the top of my head who would beat this girl in looks (when they were her age).

Looks she is a very good looking woman. But, let's not overstate it.

You're disagreeing just to disagree.

You've called her "hot" and "very good looking." I have said she is hot, a smokeshow, and an 8.5.

Now, I don't know what you consider "hot" and "very good looking," but for a girl to get those comments from me, she is at least an 8.

Nobody is overstating anything. What would you give her out of 10?
 
And you continue introducing straw men to this. I've never said she was "earth shattering" or a 10. I said she was a smokeshow. You just said she was hot. If she is hot, she is a smokeshow. You clearly don't know what that word means.

The term "smokeshow" rose to fame mostly due to barstoolsports using it as part of their daily feature. Each day, they would have a "smokeshow of the day" that consisted of a college girl's pictures being featured. They weren't "earth shattering" or 10s. They were hot girls, A.K.A., "smokeshows."




And you're completely out of your mind. I dated and/or fvcked the hottest girls at Marshall, both during my time and after my time there. The Marshall girls included numerous cheerleaders, dance girls, one girl who ended up being in Playboy, etc. Looking at pictures of them from back then, I can't think of one off of the top of my head who would beat this girl in looks (when they were her age).



You're disagreeing just to disagree.

You've called her "hot" and "very good looking." I have said she is hot, a smokeshow, and an 8.5.

Now, I don't know what you consider "hot" and "very good looking," but for a girl to get those comments from me, she is at least an 8.

Nobody is overstating anything. What would you give her out of 10?

7 or 8 because of the rack. Face is a 6.
 
This is all of course hypothetical. He also said Paris Hilton was a smoke show. Bull shit. She was a famous rich girl who sucked cranks on a video. Good looking, yes? But, not world class if she wasn't Paris Hilton.

Christ, by no reasonable definition does "smokeshow" equal "world class." I never claimed this girl or Paris were "world class" in looks. That doesn't exclude them from being smokeshows.


This is exactly what murox is talking about when he says you value the opinion of celebrities over anybody else. Since Brody Jenner dated her, she must be a smokeshow.
So...is she a 7?8?9? What is she?

No, you're too dumb to understand the intention. I used Jenner because he has a list of easy to know/see girlfriends. The point was that a guy doesn't date a plethora of exclusively 9s and higher and then suddenly date one girl who is a 5.

It doesn't have to be a celebrity. Hell, I'll post a bunch of the girls whom I have dated over the last decade, you can rate them how you think is fit, and the point would remain the same - a guy won't have a laundry list of smokeshows and then suddenly date a 5. Likewise, JR Rotem, Brody Jenner, and presumably the #1 overall NBA draft pick don't suddenly date a 5 after having dated exclusively smokeshows.
 
7 or 8 because of the rack

Two issues with that:

1) That means you think there are 100 girls 8.5 or higher at Marshall right now? You are going to be severely disappointed if you wander around campus some day.

2) You call a girl you think is a 7 "hot" and "very good looking"? 7 is a cute girl; nothing more, nothing less. She can get you off, but you aren't taking her out in public.
 
Two issues with that:

1) That means you think there are 100 girls 8.5 or higher at Marshall right now? You are going to be severely disappointed if you wander around campus some day.

2) You call a girl you think is a 7 "hot" and "very good looking"? 7 is a cute girl; nothing more, nothing less. She can get you off, but you aren't taking her out in public.

I went to school at Marshall. I got to other universities now. I go to the coast. She is a 7. The rack might make her an 8 because very few have that rack size. There are 100 girls at Marshall who are 8.5 or beat her.

I think I graded fairly. 10 being the most elite and special. If I put her rack on the 7.5 below there she is. An 8. The 7.5 below might have a better face. The 7.5 below doesn't have the professional photography or make up or celeb status. That gets her the notoriety and she scores higher because she is dating someone famous(although I can't remember who it is.) Once you get to a certain score it is hard to raise your score. Like a batting average.

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I went to school at Marshall. I got to other universities now. I go to the coast. She is a 7. The rack might make her an 8 because very few have that rack size. There are 100 girls at Marshall who are 8.5 or beat her.

I think I graded fairly. 10 being the most elite and special. If I put her rack on the 7.5 below there she is. An 8. The 7.5 below might have a better face. The 7.5 below doesn't have the professional photography or make up or celeb status. That gets her the notoriety and she scores higher because she is dating someone famous(although I can't remember who it is.) Once you get to a certain score it is hard to raise your score. Like a batting average.

Your own post contradicts yourself. The picture claims that the 7.5 is "reasonably cute," which aligns with what I describe as a 7. You claim that the "reasonably cute" girl has a better face, yet you claim the girl is "hot" and "very good looking." So the girl you claim is better looking in the face is "reasonably cute," the other girl is "hot" and "very good looking," yet the "reasonably cute" girl gets a better score.

You don't even know your own rating system.

I never said she was a 5. For the 3rd time...how would you rate her?


Avril is a 7 - 7.5. She's a cute/potentially really cute girl. Most people look at her as the punk girl with pink/green hair and never think of her as attractive, hence, why I said she is underrated.
 
Your own post contradicts yourself. The picture claims that the 7.5 is "reasonably cute," which aligns with what I describe as a 7. You claim that the "reasonably cute" girl has a better face, yet you claim the girl is "hot" and "very good looking." So the girl you claim is better looking in the face is "reasonably cute," the other girl is "hot" and "very good looking," yet the "reasonably cute" girl gets a better score.

You don't even know your own rating system.




Avril is a 7 - 7.5. She's a cute/potentially really cute girl. Most people look at her as the punk girl with pink/green hair and never think of her as attractive, hence, why I said she is underrated.
That was someone else's rating system. I was using it for reference.

Give me your rating system? Who would be a 10 which is perfect.

You knock women who have had children because it messes with their nipples. But, you over look buck teeth and/or gap teeth.
 
Your own post contradicts yourself. The picture claims that the 7.5 is "reasonably cute," which aligns with what I describe as a 7. You claim that the "reasonably cute" girl has a better face, yet you claim the girl is "hot" and "very good looking." So the girl you claim is better looking in the face is "reasonably cute," the other girl is "hot" and "very good looking," yet the "reasonably cute" girl gets a better score.

You don't even know your own rating system.




Avril is a 7 - 7.5. She's a cute/potentially really cute girl. Most people look at her as the punk girl with pink/green hair and never think of her as attractive, hence, why I said she is underrated.


So by your own admission in this very thread, she’s just a “cute” girl...one that you wouldn’t take out in public. Then what on earth are you arguing???
 
That was someone else's rating system. I was using it for reference.

Give me your rating system? Who would be a 10 which is perfect.

You knock women who have had children because it messes with their nipples. But, you over look buck teeth and/or gap teeth.
Just so I understand, you slap some braces on her and she is what??? According to you. An 8???
 
So by your own admission in this very thread, she’s just a “cute” girl...one that you wouldn’t take out in public. Then what on earth are you arguing???

I claimed that she is underrated. You, once again proving your lack of reading comprehension, tried turning it into me saying she was a VS model.
 
Question to Rifle -

You banged the hottest girls at Marshall. You saw them at their hottest, did you see them at their lowest? No make-up, bloated up after a carb filled down week? Have you seen any of the celebs posted above in real life? There are plenty of cleleb comparison photo's out there, when they're not in shape they're average at best.
 
did you see them at their lowest?
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I saw them on their knees and on their backs. That's pretty low. And I also saw many of them right after they received a facial.


Have you seen any of the celebs posted above in real life?

Yes.

There are plenty of cleleb comparison photo's out there, when they're not in shape they're average at best.

Yes, when anyone isn't in good shape, their bodies tend to be more average.
 
I saw them on their knees and on their backs. That's pretty low. And I also saw many of them right after they received a facial.




Yes.



Yes, when anyone isn't in good shape, their bodies tend to be more average.
without make up as well
 
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