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That was the most god awful half time show ever

For the record: I don't like Kendrick Lamar's music either.

But a thread of old white guys (myself included) complaining about how much he sucks is pure gold.

This. I don't like him either, but having him was a big time score and great marketing. I guess I am still non-crotchety enough to realize that.
 
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Glad I didn't watch. Just another foul mouthed thug rapper from Compton who degrades women, hates the POTUS, supports the Black Panthers, hates the police, and praises Kaperdick.

I put him on the same line as Eminem on my Give A F*** meter.
 
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Chris go turn on the radio and scan the ban. I feel like its the late 70's or early 80's. In 2040 snoopy dog and that gawd awful west guy wont be heard anywhere. I like snoop dog.
 
Who’s Kendrick Lamar?

**awaiting incredulous post from rifle **


:p


But seriously...who’s Kendrick Lamar?
 
I actually really like Kendrick Lamar's music, but last night's performance was awful. Very few rappers put on a good live performance.

 
I actually really like Kendrick Lamar's music, but last night's performance was awful. Very few rappers put on a good live performance.


That's because a lot of that sound/album final product is smoke and mirrors IMO...hard to replicate that live.

I'm not saying they're not talented, but in my limited experience with live rap it's hard to reproduce the sound/production value at your run of the mill standard live show (ie not SNL, etc).

Rifle may disagree, but I just find better live experiences with other genres...but by admission I'm not a huge rap fan but have seen a few live rap or hip hop concerts (Outkast, Nelly, D12, Black Eyed Peas off the top of my head).
 
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That's because a lot of that sound/album final product is smoke and mirrors IMO...hard to replicate that live.

I'm not saying they're not talented, but in my limited experience with live rap it's hard to reproduce the sound/production value at your run of the mill standard live show (ie not SNL, etc).

Rifle may disagree, but I just find better live experiences with other genre's...but by admission I'm not a huge rap fan but have seen a few live rap or hip hop concerts (Outkast, Nelly, D12, Black Eyed Peas off the top of my head).


Hey ya!
 
That's because a lot of that sound/album final product is smoke and mirrors IMO...hard to replicate that live.

I'm not saying they're not talented, but in my limited experience with live rap it's hard to reproduce the sound/production value at your run of the mill standard live show (ie not SNL, etc).

Rifle may disagree, but I just find better live experiences with other genres...but by admission I'm not a huge rap fan but have seen a few live rap or hip hop concerts (Outkast, Nelly, D12, Black Eyed Peas off the top of my head).

Beastie Boys could bring it live.
 
That is because they were real musicians.

Part of my enjoyment of live shows is seeing what kind of slight variations on album originals the artists will do...things like extending out a bridge or playing one song into another or mixing songs or a nice solo, etc...

Some of that is hard to do when you're using a backing track or beat or whatever off a computer for a rap song...no improvisation really.

My favorite concert experiences often do include those tweaks or major different takes on songs or covers. Things like Ryan Adams playing his soft acoustic album version of I See Monsters as a huge arena rock jam, or My Morning Jacket and Neko case playing Tom Petty/Stevie Nicks Stop Dragging My Heart Around, or when I was younger going to shows at small venues getting to see Coheed and Cambria literally unload their own equipment off their crappy little van and plug in and just destroy the place....all of that is rock-ish and lends itself to those sorts of things more than rap.

The people that make the rap beats and even the rappers as I've gotten older I actually have more musical respect for...coming up with a catchy beat and hook is "real music" too, it's just not my cup of tea and especially live I think it disappoints.
 
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Some of that is hard to do when you're using a backing track or beat or whatever off a computer for a rap song...no improvisation really.

There's not many great live DJ's left. Watch the second clip I posted above of the Beastie Boys, live on Letterman. That's Mix Master Mike on the turntables. There's a lot of improvisation going on there; So Watch'cha Want is heavy on instruments on the album, but here he makes it an entirely different song. That's badass.
 
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