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The Perfect Actually Possible Conference

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C-USA EAST

Marshall
Old Dominion
Appalachian State
Coastal Carolina
Georgia Southern
FAU
FIU

C-USA WEST

UAB
MTSU
Southern Miss
Arkansas State
Louisiana Tech
Western Kentucky
Troy

14-Team League with coverage in 12 States without the Texas teams and focused in the South.
 
Why do people keep advocating Coastal????? Other than location they have nothing going for them and a long road ahead of them.

Troy?? No athletic budget. I would have said ok if they had kept competition going down there but they have had a relatively long streak of being pathetic last little bit. Not to mention bad basketball.
 
C-USA EAST

Marshall
Old Dominion
Appalachian State
Coastal Carolina
Georgia Southern
FAU
FIU

C-USA WEST

UAB
MTSU
Southern Miss
Arkansas State
Louisiana Tech
Western Kentucky
Troy

14-Team League with coverage in 12 States without the Texas teams and focused in the South.
Your right that it makes sense but ugh does that look like crap.
 
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Looks to me like we would have just re-entered 1aa lol My exact thoughts Jeremy. Why people keep proposing that crap is beyond me........
 
That would be like removing all our progress since 97. I don't care they are 1a now, still resembles what things were two steps ago, that's not what we should strive for.
 
Throw in VMI and Furman and we're basically back in the Southern Conference... :(

Well, Jeremy, based on last Saturday's clusterf$#k at the Joan, you're right and to be brutally frank, we would have a lot of problems competing in football with Georgia Southern and Appy State currently, just like we did in the old So Con.!!!!
 
C-USA EAST

Marshall
Old Dominion
Appalachian State
Coastal Carolina
Georgia Southern
FAU
FIU

C-USA WEST

UAB
MTSU
Southern Miss
Arkansas State
Louisiana Tech
Western Kentucky
Troy

14-Team League with coverage in 12 States without the Texas teams and focused in the South.

HELL ****ING NO, Coastal Carolina that has to be a joke.
 
Well, Jeremy, based on last Saturday's clusterf$#k at the Joan, you're right and to be brutally frank, we would have a lot of problems competing in football with Georgia Southern and Appy State currently, just like we did in the old So Con.!!!!

It was 1 game, get over yourself
 
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C-USA EAST

Marshall
Old Dominion
Appalachian State
Coastal Carolina
Georgia Southern
FAU
FIU

C-USA WEST

UAB
MTSU
Southern Miss
Arkansas State
Louisiana Tech
Western Kentucky
Troy

14-Team League with coverage in 12 States without the Texas teams and focused in the South.


Sooooo what you're saying is CUSA is going to be a laughing stock, and the MAC is going to look way better? Like I've been saying, if it's not the AAC, the MaC is the best option. Not that we have that option, but CUSA is in trouble...
 
JHMFC! Do you think anybody in Ohio and Michigan -- or America for that matter -- really cares about the staid ole MAC? Why go back to the back pages of the TOLEDO BLADE? Our roots and recruits are in the South. Ride it out and get over it!
 
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JHMFC! Do you think anybody in Ohio and Michigan -- or America for that matter -- really cares about the staid ole MAC? Why go back to the back pages of the TOLEDO BLADE? Our roots and recruits are in the South. Ride it out and get over it!
Because winning the conference and being undefeated in the conference listed above would hold way less water than the same scenario in the MAC. Playoff would never be an option of that's what CUSA looked like.
 
Well, Jeremy, based on last Saturday's clusterf$#k at the Joan, you're right and to be brutally frank, we would have a lot of problems competing in football with Georgia Southern and Appy State currently, just like we did in the old So Con.!!!!

It was just one game dude. Calm down.
 
C-USA EAST

Marshall
Old Dominion
Appalachian State
Coastal Carolina
Georgia Southern
FAU
FIU

C-USA WEST

UAB
MTSU
Southern Miss
Arkansas State
Louisiana Tech
Western Kentucky
Troy

14-Team League with coverage in 12 States without the Texas teams and focused in the South.

I like it. Is it a step up from the current cusa? Probably not - more like a lateral move. However, it would be a lateral move that gives us less travel expense and more regional rivalries. And, frankly, despite our delusions of grandeur, it puts us in a conference with similarly sized schools with similar budgets. Like it or not, this is our peer group.

And whats with all the coastal hate? They have something we will likely never see - an ncaa championship.
 
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MAC: We lost to a MAC school the last 2 years. And CUSA, because it is Southern, which is where the recruits are, (sadly) where many MU alumni and friends have had to move to find work, and where the future money is, is still 1000 times a better place to be.

Because NOBODY much cares about the MAC. The Big 10, the regional NFL teams, and the other pro sports soak up 99.9% of the attention. Yes, with solid (or perhaps a little crooked) recruiting an Ohio or Michigan based school can cobble together a solid team, every now and then. And, since several MACers are going to go away in the near future, those that remain will have even stronger teams as the talent will be more concentrated on those that remains.

And nobody cares.

As to the proposed league, well, yes, getting the so-called group of 5 assorted into more geographically logical sections makes sense. Especially for the sports other than football, due to travel.

But I do not see any upside in ODU, GSU, or much to Appy State. CCU is interesting, as it is in a city that has gone from 70K to 310K in 50 years, many of those people with no particular attachment to other teams, at least not those at the G5 level, who might find solid mid-level sports a pleasant diversion, but lets wait and see.
 
Sam that kind of thinking got us into this mess to begin with. Coastal needs to earn their stripes. Right now they are a heavily subsidized school making a transition from the Big South to the Sunbelt. That's a big leap for them, the Big South is not like the Southern Conference, it would be like a G5 of the FCS. Upside is what we said about Charlotte, ODU etc. I guess we all forgot that it takes years to develop that, especially with programs just now getting their 1A start and/or programs that haven't fielded a team that long. Personally I'd rather be associated with programs that have been known to be 1A for a while. If there could be some sort of conference with Ohio, Toledo, USM, LT, MU, etc, I would be all for that. This suggested arrangement of newbie 1A schools would further tarnish the appearance of our schedule. Just mho.
 
I think you are wrong about MU being wanted by other leagues; the city of Huntington may not be, but MU's football team would be wanted in any G5 league.
 
I think you are wrong about MU being wanted by other leagues; the city of Huntington may not be, but MU's football team would be wanted in any G5 league.

Agree on both points. Any G5 team would want Marshall, and that includes the AAC. I also agree that they do not want the city of Huntington. And there in lies the problem. The other problem is half empty stadium most of the time. The quality of football is good, the other two things not so much. The city isn't going to improve overnight, but attendance is a fixable issue. Sadly I don't think it'll be fixed though.
 
Guys, Guys, Guys.... We had a bad game, might have a bad season by Marshall standards... but we are still Marshall with a HELL of a lot to offer any conference. If the AAC or MAC calls I'm sure that Mike Hamrick will review the fine print and feasibility carefully. If those invitations are not deemed viable then we remain as a cornerstone program in CUSA. I'm sure he and the other CUSA AD's talk a lot about how to improve the conference.

BTW does anyone know how long a conference membership are renewed for? Is it year to year or is a multi year agreement?
 
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Guys, Guys, Guys.... We had a bad game, might have a bad season by Marshall standards... but we are still Marshall with a HELL of a lot to offer any conference. If the AAC or MAC calls I'm sure that Mike Hamrick will review the fine print and feasibility carefully. If those invitations are not deemed viable then we remain as a cornerstone program in CUSA. I'm sure he and the other CUSA AD's talk a lot about how to improve the conference.

BTW does anyone know how long a conference membership are renewed for? Is it year to year or is a multi year agreement?
It varies.. And there are buyouts even with contracts
 
C-USA EAST

Marshall
Old Dominion
Appalachian State
Coastal Carolina
Georgia Southern
FAU
FIU

C-USA WEST

UAB
MTSU
Southern Miss
Arkansas State
Louisiana Tech
Western Kentucky
Troy

14-Team League with coverage in 12 States without the Texas teams and focused in the South.

If this is what it comes down to, I would lose both FAU and FIU and move UAB to the East, becoming a 12 team league. Charlotte has potential but they were socially promoted to FBS way to soon. The teams that are having success after the jump to FBS from FCS are the ones who had well established FCS programs first (most being in the FCS playoffs year after year and having won championships at that level).
 
I'm not excited about geting UAB back. Unless they find the money to replace Legion Field, they have nothing to offer.
 
UAB...the one team Snyder could consistently beat.........yippee................
 
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