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Those nasty bone spurs.

Vietnam, the draft, etc. were a sore on this country. Still have issues with it.
 
Vietnam, the draft, etc. were a sore on this country. Still have issues with it.

yeah still have issues after republicans said it was ok to have issues.
like I always say republicans are always about 20 years behind on every
issue.

herdman called people opposed to the war every name in the book now he and every
other republican in the world has done a 180 degree turn.

suddenly they were opposed to Vietnam the entire time.

please - spare us.
 
yeah still have issues after republicans said it was ok to have issues.
like I always say republicans are always about 20 years behind on every
issue.

herdman called people opposed to the war every name in the book now he and every
other republican in the world has done a 180 degree turn.

suddenly they were opposed to Vietnam the entire time.

please - spare us.
Huggh? The whole vietnam thing was a cluster mess
 
Vietnam, the draft, etc. were a sore on this country. Still have issues with it.

I'd agree, but I still think Trump is a no-good fvcker after what he said about McCain. Talking shit on a POW we he didn't have the balls to go to war makes Trump a fvcker. He could cure cancer, end poverty, and bring back every job at $100k a year and I'd still think he's a no good motherfvcker because of that. I'll never understand how a military man could vote for him.
 
I'd agree, but I still think Trump is a no-good fvcker after what he said about McCain. Talking shit on a POW we he didn't have the balls to go to war makes Trump a fvcker. He could cure cancer, end poverty, and bring back every job at $100k a year and I'd still think he's a no good motherfvcker because of that. I'll never understand how a military man could vote for him.
A lot did. Shows you what they thought his opponent.
 
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The way they treated our vietnam veterans ranks right near the top of horrible acts by americans. Long haired hippies sure made a horrible choice to come down hard on veterans as soon as their plane or bus arrived. They were right about the war. That was a civil war and the north was a powerful army. They kicked our asses. Not the fault of the soldiers with westmoreland running the show. All he cared about was body count. Ho chi ming said if they could kill one american for every 10 viet gong or a soldier from the powerful north vietnam army they would win the war.. They didnt wear pajama's and hats but dressed for battle with chinese battle gear. Ak 47's killed alot of our boys. We underestimated them big time.
 
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The hippies were dead wrong waiting on veterans in airports to spit on them. Extra you cant support treating veterans like that. I know you are butt hurt over hillary losing to an idiot but dont go over the deep end..3 of the 4 shot at kent state were not even protesters. That was the national guards fault. Wont try to justify that like you did on spitting on veterans. They were hard on the hippies too. Lol. 99% of wayne county would tear into protesters for spitting on veterans and not make an excuse. They were hard on the hippies too. Funny as hell
 
Kent State would agree.
Completely different. It was the goverment who opened fire not regular citizens. The protesters were fellow americans attacking our boys. Never heard anybody defend their actions. Only a sick person would support treating veterans like that. Obama sure didnt help veterans. Too many whites for hussein obama to care. He is far better than lyin hillary. I pick obama over hillary anyday.
 
It shows me a lot of vets are stupid or brainwashed.

either that or they are smart enough to know to say no to socialism and socialist policies. morons voting for personality/charisma got us that clown Obama for 8 years.
 
That may have happened occasionally, but it's mostly a myth.
Oh my gosh. I have family in seattle. It happened evety day there. On their local news they ran a story everyday on the events at the airports. Most of the soldiers flew into seattle. They all faced it there. No joke but in states that voted for trump would not spit on veterans. Just sayin
 
pretty sure it came down to Trump and HRC for the job.

democrat party too far left for anyone that has the ability to reason and isn't an ideologue.

Because people like you believe there are only two choices.

And your second statement is pure rubbish. The Clintons in particular represent a wing of the Democratic Party that resembles pre 1980 Republicans. If you said the number of votes received by Sanders shows support for move to the left you would then be correct. The only reason Bill Clinton, and thus Hillary, are Democrats is because Arkansas was a lot like WV...people were Democrats simply because their daddy and granddaddy were.
 
Because people like you believe there are only two choices.

And your second statement is pure rubbish. The Clintons in particular represent a wing of the Democratic Party that resembles pre 1980 Republicans. If you said the number of votes received by Sanders shows support for move to the left you would then be correct. The only reason Bill Clinton, and thus Hillary, are Democrats is because Arkansas was a lot like WV...people were Democrats simply because their daddy and granddaddy were.

I know there are only two choices unless you want to throw vote away. I certainly don't need a history lesson on the democratic party...we can do that and it is fun but no time now.

Clinton pushes socialist policies and identity politics. She never had a chance with folks with the ability to reason and the desire to work. She wins those that are suckers for identity politics, leftist ideologues and those that want to suckle the government teat.
 
I know there are only two choices unless you want to throw vote away. I certainly don't need a history lesson on the democratic party...we can do that and it is fun but no time now.

Clinton pushes socialist policies and identity politics. She never had a chance with folks with the ability to reason and the desire to work. She wins those that are suckers for identity politics, leftist ideologues and those that want to suckle the government teat.

If more people rejected the two party farce it would end.

You wouldn't know socialism from a hole in the ground. All it is to you is a euphemism for things you disagree with. It's no different from liberals saying "racist" all the time.
 
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Only a moron thinks socialism is something difficult to know or define
 
Only a moron thinks socialism is something difficult to know or define

Only a moron would think somewhere hidden in the DNC platform is actual socialism.

Social programs and socialism are very different things. I am open to discussion on the scope of social programs, but it's usually useless when the other person insists on calling social programs "socialism", especially when the other person is too dense to realize they themselves have used and benefited from social programs. I'd also entertain a discussion on the merits, or lack thereof, of actual socialism...but that's difficult when people seem to be confused on what that is.

So again, I'm pretty sure you used socialism as a euphemism for "helps lazy negroes and white trash". And it's fine to feel that way (if Trumpism has changed anything, it's that). I'd even agree up to a point that some game the system to maximize idleness. But it's still not socialism.

*edit: I left out Mexicans as also lazy
 
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Only a moron would think somewhere hidden in the DNC platform is actual socialism.

Social programs and socialism are very different things. I am open to discussion on the scope of social programs, but it's usually useless when the other person insists on calling social programs "socialism", especially when the other person is too dense to realize they themselves have used and benefited from social programs. I'd also entertain a discussion on the merits, or lack thereof, of actual socialism...but that's difficult when people seem to be confused on what that is.

So again, I'm pretty sure you used socialism as a euphemism for "helps lazy negroes and white trash". And it's fine to feel that way (if Trumpism has changed anything, it's that). I'd even agree up to a point that some game the system to maximize idleness. But it's still not socialism.

*edit: I left out Mexicans as also lazy

It's always good to hear from the leftist who doesn't know he is a leftist. You even worked a little identity politics in there - very good. in your response maybe you can hit the social justice angle.

I'm not going to waste much time on you as your confidence seems to far exceed your knowledge or ability to reason. Bottom line, if you can't see the DNC and their platform/ideology is pushing (or trying to) our country towards a socialist democracy much like the western European nations then I don't know what to tell you. You must not pay as much attention as you claim.
 
It's always good to hear from the leftist who doesn't know he is a leftist. You even worked a little identity politics in there - very good. in your response maybe you can hit the social justice angle.

I'm not going to waste much time on you as your confidence seems to far exceed your knowledge or ability to reason. Bottom line, if you can't see the DNC and their platform/ideology is pushing (or trying to) our country towards a socialist democracy much like the western European nations then I don't know what to tell you. You must not pay as much attention as you claim.

Knowledge? You are the one that claimed the DNC wants actual socialism. "Socialist Democracy" isn't socialism. And it's hardly leftist. Besides health care, I would say we are pretty much a social democracy already. I understand your argument is for less social spending, I'm just saying YOU are the one who lacks enough sense to know the DNC platform has never called for actual socialism. Shit, what we call social democracy can't exist outside of a capitalistic framework, capitalism is a requirement for social democracy. Otherwise it actually is socialism. And make no mistake, there is a small but loud faction that does want actual socialism.

What social programs in the USA do you advocate ending? Or do you just want spending rolled back? That's the actual argument between Dems and GOP. Even Obama, who you think is a Communist, didn't advocate "European social democracy".

And of course I threw in some "identity politics" (another useless term). Most politics IS based on identity. Except for a brief time at and immediately after the nation's founding we've been all identity politics. The GOP been riding their current identity politics since Nixon. Surely you identify as something.

Anyway, tell me exactly what policies I support that makes me a leftist.
 
I said they were smart enough to "reject socialism and socialist policies"...you are splitting hairs, but you go on.
 
I said they were smart enough to "reject socialism and socialist policies"...you are splitting hairs, but you go on.

It's an important hair to split, because folks like you cry socialism when it isn't....which you intially did...same as some do with racism, as I noted. Shit like that is why we can't fix shit. Reflexive dismissal of truths. Anyway, that's my rant of the month.
 
at the end of the day the democratic party has gone too far left...and that loses elections.
 
No. It didn't.
Your double personality would cause u
To do this. If Raoul and I Am Herdman and greenduke were at the airport and shaking hands with our soldiers and telling them thank you for your service you would go against whatever they did. You would spit on our soldiers. Thats how you roll. Hillary rolled that way too.
 
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