Do you believe those who have paid their debts to society should never be allowed to vote?Letting felons vote tends to help the Democrats tremendously.
Do you believe those who have paid their debts to society should never be allowed to vote?
Should they lose all Constitutional rights?I do. They are told before they enter a plea or are convicted by a jury and again when they are sentenced they have lost this right, as well as the right to possess a firearm. Want to vote or own a gun? Dont commit a felony. Its really not a difficult standard to uphold.
Should they lose all Constitutional rights?
Why not? If we take two of their rights away from them, why not take the rest? I thought the point of jail/prison was to punish and rehabilitate convicted individuals over a determined time period, a time period in which the majority of their rights and freedoms are revoked until they have satisfied the terms spelled out by the courts. A problem we have lies in how we have over criminalized many aspects of our lives (we can thank the industrialized prison complex and prison guard unions), in some states, possession of small amounts of pot equals a felony, do you think someone should lose their right to vote for the rest of their life if they get caught with a joint?Nope, but im fine with them losing the right to vote and possess a firearm.
Why not? If we take two of their rights away from them, why not take the rest? I thought the point of jail/prison was to punish and rehabilitate convicted individuals over a determined time period, a time period in which the majority of their rights and freedoms are revoked until they have satisfied the terms spelled out by the courts. A problem we have lies in how we have over criminalized many aspects of our lives (we can thank the industrialized prison complex and prison guard unions), in some states, possession of small amounts of pot equals a felony, do you think someone should lose their right to vote for the rest of their life if they get caught with a joint?
Do you believe those who have paid their debts to society should never be allowed to vote?
I believe Arizona has some fairly strict laws on the books...Yep. No problem whatsoever. Btw, im not aware of any states that make a joint a felony. What are you calling a small amount, and which states are you talking about?
Are you against it because you feel it will benefit Democrats more than Republicans?Yes, I do believe that. Besides, this is all an attempt to help Hillary win Virginia. Why else would they be doing this? They sure wouldn't do it if they thought felons would vote Republican, that's for certain.
Ar you trying to get Fever to join this thread?Constitutional rights. Those will do them a lot of good when nobody will hire them anymore. Their lives are over anyway. I don't know why they didn't just hold up a toy gun and let the cops shoot them.
I believe Arizona has some fairly strict laws on the books...
The 14th Amendment mentions participation in rebellion, or other crime, it does not clearly spell out what "other crime" is.Btw, the loss of the right to vote is, in and of itself, Constitutional (14th Amend.). Moreover, it is left up to the individual state to decide.
Btw, is the right to vote the only one you want restoref, or would you also like felons to sit on juries, possess firearms, etc.?
Felony at any amount of Pot.
The 14th Amendment mentions participation in rebellion, or other crime, it does not clearly spell out what "other crime" is.
I do not smoke pot and it infuriates me how much of my tax dollars go towards imprisoning those who do partake in that activity.I guess if you want to smoke pot.....better go somewhere else.
Correct.Thats why we have the judiciary, who have interpreted the phrase time and time again to include felony offenses - including many SCOTUS opinions.
it infuriates me
I should have probably said angers/frustrates me.How much?
Getting mad can be a hell of a rush. These days, the only thing that seems worth it is terrible drivers. And yep, after denying it all this time I'm ready to admit there are a lot of them here.