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thundermax

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We need a lot of help. On the floor and court side. Again, lazy passes, poor shooting, weak defense allowing the opposing team to have wide open shots etc. Better recruit smart and not around the tri state area.
 
so if there is a kid from the tri-state who happens to be a solid d-1 player we just skip over them? Wow maybe next time we have another OJ Mayo/Pat Patterson we call them and say,"sorry we don't recruit locals."
 
Not sure until we see the product Coach D'Antoni puts on the court next year. Watched many of these kids sitting out play high school basketball but the jury is out as to whether they can be enough to turn the program.
 
We need to recruit about 10 new kids and run some of the others off. We have maybe 3 players I would keep. Some of these kids have no basketball skills. Never have I seen so many missed layups that didn't even draw iron. Just beyond bad. Last time our talent level was this low was the Freeman era.
 
You can thank Tom Herrion for the lack of talent. He didnt recruit anyone who had talent to play at this level. The ones that might have were the ones who had major issues and either left or got kicked off. Now DD has a dumpster fire to try to rebuild and its going to take a lot of time.
 
Herrion brought in plenty of good D-1 talent. problem was, he was poor coach and most of the talent he brought in were head cases...including the king of head cases Elijah pittman. Heck, since DD was hired the following Herrion recruits moved on....canty to auburn, the NQ guard who went juco this year Maryland next, and Chris Thomas, Tyrone Goard.
 
Originally posted by 19MU88:
Herrion brought in plenty of good D-1 talent.
No, he really didn't. 2010 had it right. Herrion is the reason we are where we are now.

Worst overall talent level I've seen for a Herd team since the early 90's.
 
All good points. But I am less upset about the lack of talent (which is obviously an issue, but presumably correctable over time) than whT appeared to me to be a lack of inspiration. They didn't even seem to want to be there, when they should have been playing loose and with 'reckless abandon' considering they had nothing to lose and everything to gain. Even during timeouts, DD was trying to diagram stuff on the whiteboard and the players weren't even looking or listening. That isn't a talent issue; that's a failure in coaching leadership. As far behind as the herd had fallen by about the 8:00 mark, DD should have sat the players who weren't bothering to pay attention in the huddle and stuck some kids in who would at least try to execute DD's scheme.

On a related issue, now that both ODU and La Tech have been knocked out before reaching the title game, is CUSA relegated to another year as a one-bid league? ESPN's latest "crawl" suggested ODU might still be on "the bubble" (although on the NIT side of it). I'd say that's probably pretty optimistic. There will be other quality teams in good leagues that will "punch their tickets" by getting "quality wins" via upsetting good teams in the last rounds of their conference tournaments, which will likely just shove ODU even further down the RPI list as things progress tomorrow. Thoughts?
 
Originally posted by SquireJack:
All good points. But I am less upset about the lack of talent (which is obviously an issue, but presumably correctable over time) than whT appeared to me to be a lack of inspiration. They didn't even seem to want to be there, when they should have been playing loose and with 'reckless abandon' considering they had nothing to lose and everything to gain. Even during timeouts, DD was trying to diagram stuff on the whiteboard and the players weren't even looking or listening. That isn't a talent issue; that's a failure in coaching leadership. As far behind as the herd had fallen by about the 8:00 mark, DD should have sat the players who weren't bothering to pay attention in the huddle and stuck some kids in who would at least try to execute DD's scheme.

On a related issue, now that both ODU and La Tech have been knocked out before reaching the title game, is CUSA relegated to another year as a one-bid league? ESPN's latest "crawl" suggested ODU might still be on "the bubble" (although on the NIT side of it). I'd say that's probably pretty optimistic. There will be other quality teams in good leagues that will "punch their tickets" by getting "quality wins" via upsetting good teams in the last rounds of their conference tournaments, which will likely just shove ODU even further down the RPI list as things progress tomorrow. Thoughts?
Call me tonight, sweetie.
 
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