Trump Says He’ll Impose Felony Sentence…
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This is the guy you deplorables claim wants to defend the Constitution even though he has directly said he wanted to terminate it, has taken actions to work against it, and now is again saying he wants to infringe on it.
Yet you deplorables say you can think of worse.
“I could walk down Fifth Ave and shoot somebody . . . “
Yet you deplorables say you can think of worse.
“I could walk down Fifth Ave and shoot somebody . . . “
Happens to conservatives a lot on college campuses. Your thoughts on that?
And your language isn't very flattering...
And please answer the question about foreign nationals on US soil...
Just because they are an asshole does not mean their actions should be considered criminal.
No they don't... All they see is Trump bad...
Iowa man sentenced to 15 years after burning church’s LGBTQ flag
Adolfo Martinez said he tore down the pride flag because he opposes homosexuality. Hate crime and habitual offender charges enhanced his prison sentence.
www.nbcnews.com
Is it bad policy? Probably in most circumstances. Would it withstand a legal challenge? Probably not. Are people frustrated with the anti-US rhetoric? Yes. And the unequal application of the law? Most definitely...
Trio arrested on preliminary hate crime charges after Pride flag found burning in street
This is the same area that saw a series of thefts of Pride flags Sunday.
Wouldn't burning the US flag be littering and the unlawful release of soot like burning the Quran is???
Detroit Man Admits Burning Quran Outside Islamic Center
A man pleaded guilty to charges related to the burning of the Quran after being caught in the act outside an Islamic community center
"Al-Asadi was charged with littering and unlawful release of soot, and was released on $300 bond. His sentencing is scheduled for August 5."
Interestingly flag burning hasn't always been protected speech. Here is the history for those open-minded enough to expand their perspectives...
Flag Protection Acts of 1968 and 1989
Two acts were passed by Congress in 1968 and 1989 to protect the U.S. flag from being burned by protesters. The Court struck both down on First Amendment grounds.
firstamendment.mtsu.edu
Ok? So we should violate the rights of individuals because other individuals rights were violated?
That would be a different criminal violation than being charged with burning a US flag.
It does happen to conservatives and it shouldn't happen but academics have no balls.
What question are you talking about?
So what if someone burns a flag in front of my house? I am not for felony charges for burning the flag but, maybe it should work both ways.
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A Mississippi man was sentenced today before U.S. District Judge Halil S. Ozerden to 42 months* in prison followed by three years supervised release and restitution in the amount of $7,810 for burning a cross in his front yard with the intent to intimidate a Black family.
According to court documents, in Gulfport, Mississippi, on Dec. 3, 2020, Axel Cox, 24, violated the Fair Housing Act when he used threatening and racially derogatory language toward his Black neighbors and burned a cross to intimidate them. After a dispute with the Black family victims, Cox wedged two pieces of wood together to form a cross, placed it in clear view of the victims’ residence, doused it in oil and set it alight. During this incident, Cox yelled threats and racial slurs toward the occupants of the house. Cox admitted that he lit the cross on fire because the victims were Black and that he intended to scare them into moving out of the neighborhood.
“This cross burning was an abhorrent act that used a traditional symbol of hatred and violence to stoke fear and drive a Black family out of their home,” said Assistant Attorney General Kristen Clarke of the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division. “While one might think cross-burnings and white supremacist threats and violence are things of the past, the unfortunate reality is that these incidents continue today. This sentence demonstrates the importance of holding people accountable for threatening the safety and security of Black people in their homes because of the color of their skin or where they are from.”
“No one should endure such hatred and intimidation because of the color of his skin,” said U.S. Attorney Darren LaMarca for the Southern District of Mississippi. “This defendant has been held accountable. His sentence should permeate among his kind and declare that Mississippi and the Department of Justice will not tolerate this hateful behavior.”
“Mr. Axel Cox sought to intimidate members of the community through his intimidating threats," said FBI Special Agent in Charge Jermicha Fomby of the FBI Jackson Field Office. “The FBI prioritizes the protection of civil rights to ensure citizens remain safe without fear of any harm. We remain committed to tirelessly thwarting the nefarious actions of those, like Mr. Cox, who intended to impact fear upon citizens based on biases.”
A federal grand jury indicted Cox on Sept. 20, 2022. Cox faced a maximum penalty of up to 10 years in prison for interfering with the victims’ housing rights and a mandatory minimum of 10 years in prison, consecutive to any other sentence, for using fire to commit a federal felony. Cox also faced a fine of up to $250,000 with respect to each charge.
Assistant Attorney General Clarke, U.S. Attorney LaMarca and Special Agent in Charge Fomby made the announcement.
Assistant U.S. Attorney Andrea Cabell Jones for the Southern District of Mississippi and former Trial Attorney Noah Coakley II of the Civil Rights Division’s Criminal Section prosecuted the case.
For more information and resources on the department’s efforts to combat hate crimes, visit www.justice.gov/hatecrimes.
* This has been corrected to reflect the correct sentencing time of 42 months
What's your take on foreign nationals burning the US flag on US soil?
Academics get way too much taxpayer money to hate the US...
A crime is a crime... Flag burners shouldn't get a free pass if Quran burners don't. Equal protection...
Freedom of speech is freedom of speech. I don't have to like it or agree with it but they have the same right to free speech as you or I do
That wasn't free speech, you stupid liar. That was insurrection against a lot of the Constitution, including free speech. It was an attempt to silence 81,000,000 voices by force. Get out of here you punk.
That's a lie, Greed...I mean riflepuss. Stop spreading leftist propaganda, liar.
Nowhere at anytime did Trump say "I want to terminate our Constitution."
You're just bleating leftist lies, bleater.
What would you call "Reimagining" our Constitution?
Explain the difference between the above statement and the following one...
"A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,”
That's what he said, moron. Read the quote. Why you continue to argue this is dumbfounding.
That is NOT what he said, dumbass. Link to him saying "I want to terminate the Constitution," liar.
He did say that and he did not mean it the way you haters say. There is ZERO direct evidence that he was saying he wanted to terminate the Constitution.
He also denied that's what he was calling for.
It's just you haters trying to paint a picture that never existed.
You breaking into my home allows me to put a bullet between your eyes. That doesn't mean I said I want to shoot you between the eyes, nor does it mean I would.
But it wasn't necessarily freedom of speech until 1989 and that is lost in the current debate.
Another loss for states' rights and more federal, and judicial, overreach.
Actually foreign nationals have more rights than you or I due to antidiscrimination laws. Think that is in the spirit of the Constitution?
I think that that would rightfully still be illegal as it is harassment if they were doing it to harass you. Just like burning a cross is legal to do, it's just not legal to do when you're doing it to harass someone.
The following statement is not open to interpretation. It is a word for word account of exactly what he said. You do not get to tell me what your orange jesus meant when I have a record of precisely what he actually said. Furthermore the context in which he said it explains WHY he said it, and it is because he wanted to do whatever it took to STAY IN POWER and PROVED it by inciting an insurrection against the Constitution of the United States and then attempted to illegally overturn the results of a free and fair election. Your lying and/or willful ignorance is no excuse when the traitors actions are there for all to see.
"A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,”
Link to where he said: "I want to terminate our Constitution."
That's the accusation.
Of course, you're just a dumbass bleater and a liar.
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