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I watched some of the UAB vs Rice game Saturday. I think we match up well. They have some big guys on the DL so we better be ready. I think our speed on defense will keep them on their toes. I look for a close game. IMO if we play to our ability we win a close one.
 
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We better have our chinstraps on.

I think Bill Clark is the best coach in the league. UAB struggled a little against rice ( less than we did, obviously) but that’s literally the only game they’ve played since October 31. They got the rust off, and they’re going to be fresh. As long as they bring their full squad, we’ll have our hands full.

The keys are going to be how well can Doc turn the team around after the Rice anomaly? ( I have little confidence in this ) . And does Grant have the mental toughness to not let one game redefine his season? (I have major confidence that he Does).
 
They have a big, physical D line, very good pass defense and play with swagger. Clark is a good coach. They'll likely try to shut down Knox and make Grant beat them with the pass. They don't give up the long ball very often. It's gonna be tough to win.

What kills me is, 3 weeks ago we were ranked 15th, undefeated and cruising. Now, after Friday, we could realistically lose our last 2, lose the league again, and look as though we've totally collapsed.

Doc and Cramsey better come up with a good game plan. We need to hope the OL is 100% and ready for war.
 
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They have a big, physical D line, very good pass defense and play with swagger. Clark is a good coach. They'll likely try to shut down Knox and make Grant beat them with the pass. They don't give up the long ball very often. It's gonna be tough to win.

What kills me is, 3 weeks ago we were ranked 15th, undefeated and cruising. Now, after Friday, we could realistically lose our last 2, lose the league again, and look as though we've totally collapsed.

Doc and Cramsey better come up with a good game plan. We need to hope the OL is 100% and ready for war.

And this is surprising to you because why? Up until this point outside of App State who obviously wasn’t near as good as their preseason ranking we hadn’t played anyone with a heartbeat. Rice, although not that good beat us like they had a right to change our last name. Then we bitch out vs Charlotte for reasons that are unknown which is a distraction I’m sure to everyone involved in it. If UAB walks into the JOAN and beats us Doc should be fired and gone before Christmas
 
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Wow, so many just downright bad "facts" in your post.

Starting with Appy being not nearly as good? They lost three games, all three teams ranked (we were after beating them)

Doc needs fired?

Covid year.
Stayed healthy till late
7 - 1
Third CUSA Championship game appearance in the last 8 years, no other East team can say that, and only UAB can tie it.
Just won a coach of the year award

Say what you want about "super fan." Dude you are just as far off the other side it isnt even funny.

Ridiculous.

GO HERD!
 
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Wow, so many just downright bad "facts" in your post.

Starting with Appy being not nearly as good? They lost three games, all three teams ranked (we were after beating them)

Doc needs fired?

Covid year.
Stayed healthy till late
7 - 1
Third CUSA Championship game appearance in the last 8 years, no other East team can say that, and only UAB can tie it.
Just won a coach of the year award

Say what you want about "super fan." Dude you are just as far off the other side it isnt even funny.

Ridiculous.

GO HERD!

Is App ranked higher or less than where they started? Crickets

Doc loses another title game, yes fired. I didn’t hesitate or stutter

Covid year? And? A lot of folks getting fired during covid years, see Auburn.
 
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Wow, so many just downright bad "facts" in your post.

Starting with Appy being not nearly as good? They lost three games, all three teams ranked (we were after beating them)

Doc needs fired?

Covid year.
Stayed healthy till late
7 - 1
Third CUSA Championship game appearance in the last 8 years, no other East team can say that, and only UAB can tie it.
Just won a coach of the year award

Say what you want about "super fan." Dude you are just as far off the other side it isnt even funny.

Ridiculous.

GO HERD!
To be honest, COVID likely helped Doc. We didn’t get Boise, Pitt or Charlotte.
In addition, with COVID knocking out the P5 leagues early, allowed us to be on national TV two weeks in a row, the springboard for us being ranked.

If we don’t win Friday, it will be a collapse of epic proportions.
 
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Wow, so many just downright bad "facts" in your post.

Starting with Appy being not nearly as good? They lost three games, all three teams ranked (we were after beating them)

Doc needs fired?

Covid year.
Stayed healthy till late
7 - 1
Third CUSA Championship game appearance in the last 8 years, no other East team can say that, and only UAB can tie it.
GO HERD!

If we’re going to go back arbitrary lengths of time to make his resume look as impressive as possible (and 3 championship APPEARANCES in 8 years in this league doesn’t really do it for me). Then how about, 3 championship appearances in 11 years? 1 championship appearance in the last 6 years ?

That last part is the saddest, one divisional championship in 6 seasons in the worst conference in America.

However you cut it, I expect better for Marshall. And you obviously love it enough that you should too.
 
The difference Aaron is I don’t defend him I just state opinion and base it off facts and observations. I don’t tell others how they should feel or think on the topics either. You on the other hand defend everything and tell others how they should think as well. And if those opinions or observations don’t coincide with your feelings you, like all Superfans stand on your soap box and tell everyone how you are a greater fan than us.
 
Conference USA is bad, bad, bad. The worst aspect of playing in this conference (which admittedly is common in G5 conferences) is that in a given year you might have 1-2 teams in the top 80 of college football, and very little outside of OOC play to show you whether you have a good team or not.

The Appy State win was "impressive" in that it established Marshall as one of the better G5 teams in America. The string of victories amassed against weak competition, played almost exclusively in our home stadium, with weeks of recovery separating most games, may have distorted our opinion of the quality of this team. Friday night will be a test in a season with very few of them, and if Marshall passes they'll have something to add to the trophy case.

However nobody should be shocked at all if they do not. The outcome of the Rice game is unthinkable only if you are over-assigning quality to Marshall for its wins over bad teams. That loss demands a recalibration of expectations.

How folks want to perceive Doc Holliday's performance is totally open - there have been a few high highs, and just as many low lows, and a whole lot of flavorless paste in between.
 
UAB was missing a good amount of players for the Rice game. No clue how many will be back this week but it could be a different team.
We’d better have the OL back and our heads on straight.
 
I just got into Huntington, ahead of the snow. Looking forward to watching the game with my son. It will be my third this season. Can't wait, except...

Earlier posts mention UAB's size on the DL. It was something I took note of also when watching them against Rice last week. But what concerned me even more was that they play mostly an odd front. I worry that not only are we geared more for the even fronts we see most weeks, but I'm concerned about the pressure this puts on our center. I mentioned last week that I thought one of our issues against Rice was the demand it put on our guards, who were needed to help both inside and outside. UAB, with a big bruiser on Sal's nose, has me a little apprehensive.

I hope my worries are for naught.
 
Evidently UAB has everyone cleared through the most recent testing. They'll come in fired up and ready to throw the first punch.
 
Pretty cool that UAB can drop football, only to bring it back a few years ago, and now compete for the conference title. Just one of the many perks of competing in C-USA.
 
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Pretty cool that UAB can drop football, only to bring it back a few years ago, and now compete for the conference title. Just one of the many perks of competing in C-USA.
They had a shitload of waivers for recruiting that gave them a huge advantage and it still carries through today.
 
They had a shitload of waivers for recruiting that gave them a huge advantage and it still carries through today.

Been hearing that for three years now. Three years ago it was “As soon as these 35-40 seniors and Juco’s Bill Clark was allowed to recruit graduate this year they’re back to reality. “
 
Been hearing that for three years now. Three years ago it was “As soon as these 35-40 seniors and Juco’s Bill Clark was allowed to recruit graduate this year they’re back to reality. “
His current seniors are the first 4 year guys to go through the program since the re-boot. He's a good coach. Wonder why Doc isn't mentioned for the Auburn job. He's had success, COTY.
 
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Pic or it didn't happen!

I also have $1000 through the BetMGM Sports app:
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You're rolling with the big dogs here. I had to switch to another book beginning on November 6th, because my previous book banned me by claiming that I was a professional gambler after I won 11 of 12 plays. Since November 6th at just this book, I have wagered $55K:

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I also have $1000 through the BetMGM Sports app:
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You're rolling with the big dogs here. I had to switch to another book beginning on November 6th, because my previous book banned me by claiming that I was a professional gambler after I won 11 of 12 plays. Since November 6th at just this book, I have wagered $55K:

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You have bigger balls than me!!!! Good luck!!!!
 
You have bigger balls than me!!!! Good luck!!!!

Thanks. That's an average bet for me - not small or big. A big bet would be the Bowling Green vs. Akron game last week where Akron was only favored by 2. That was free money.

MAC, Sun Belt, and C-USA (and Alabama to cover, usually) are the easiest games to win.
 
Is that because less effort or information goes into setting the spread?

I've thought about it a lot over the years but don't know how logical the first part is: I think some of it has to do with less volume of bets as a result of less interest. The spread is set and then books adjust as needed, mostly, to balance play on both sides. With less volume driving a change in the spread, it won't have as much "public correction" if an opening line is off.

I think some of the really, really bad teams in the bottom conferences are easy to predict and bet against. For instance, Bowling Green . . . just an awful team. They'd have trouble completing 50% of their passes with no defense on the field, and I'm not joking. Unless they were playing UMass or UL-Monroe, they were going to get blasted by any other bad team. They simply can't do the most basic of football functions.

On the other hand, a really bad team from the SEC (Vandy) can do those basic things. They are bad (0-9), but they can still play the game.

Every game has freak things that really aren't based on if a team is good or bad: a wet ball results in a bad snap or dropped punt; a defensive back gets his feet tied up and falls on a pass play; a QB about to throw a pass has the ball fall backwards for a fumble. Those freak things don't happen based on a team being good or bad. But a good team is usually in a position to take advantage of them while a bad team isn't.

If a defensive back falls down against Bowling Green, there is a good chance they still overthrow or under throw the wide open receiver. If a defensive back slips against Vandy, Vandy can complete the pass in stride for a TD. If a punt returner bobbles a wet football, Bowling Green may not have fast enough coverage players to take advantage of the bobble. A bad SEC team has athletes that can at least run down the field and turn that into a turnover.

Alabama is immensely better than Vandy, but Vandy can at least do the basic things to take advantage of two of those freak plays in a game which could be a 14-28 point swing based on those two plays. Bowling Green isn't good enough to take advantage of those freak plays, so even if Akron were to have some of them, there is a good chance BUGS can't capitalize on them.

It's also why I hate betting on NFL. Those teams are so good that they will take advantage of those freak plays that you simply can't predict will happen in a game. So a bad team is able to take advantage of them and beat a good team. I had a big weekend last week, so I threw $1000 down on two Sunday games. I pushed on both of them. My pick had big leads late in the game, but once an NFL team does that, they play so conservatively based on the clock that teams can come back and cover the spread. Everything is so precise in the NFL, that a team with a big league will have not problem giving up a couple of quick TDs late knowing that their precision with the clock and what they can have happen makes it very hard to bet on.

So those freak things that happen in games with bad teams from good conferences can impact the score, but many times those freak things
 
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Louisville vs. ????? a couple of weeks ago. Long snapper centers the ball over the punter's head 3 times. On the 4th time, the qb simply took the ball and ran backwards to the end zone, giving up a safety instead of giving up good field position. How do you suppose the point spread was affected by those. Or the LSU vs. FLA game with the thrown shoe. Wagering on games is a crap shoot. Odd happenings like these can turn a big win, moneywise, into a loss.
 
Louisville vs. ????? a couple of weeks ago. Long snapper centers the ball over the punter's head 3 times. .

First, it was Louisiana, not Louisville. One is a state while the other is a city in a different state.

How do you suppose the point spread was affected by those.

The point spread wasn't impacted by any of those, because the point spread was already set and completed before the beginning of the game.

Wagering on games is a crap shoot.

No, it's not, for people who know what they are doing. Care to see screenshots for proof? A "crap shoot" doesn't result in 11 out of 12 wins and a book banning me (which also happened about 15 years ago).

Odd happenings like these can turn a big win, moneywise, into a loss.


You're proving my point. Odd happenings can help teams that are somewhat decent. Odd happenings have little impact on really bad teams, because they can't take advantage of those odd happenings regardless.

What would those three bad punt snaps and one bad extra point snap do for a team like Bowling Green? It wouldn't have changed much, because their offense is so bad they wouldn't be able to take advantage of it.
 
I just got into Huntington, ahead of the snow. Looking forward to watching the game with my son. It will be my third this season. Can't wait, except...

Earlier posts mention UAB's size on the DL. It was something I took note of also when watching them against Rice last week. But what concerned me even more was that they play mostly an odd front. I worry that not only are we geared more for the even fronts we see most weeks, but I'm concerned about the pressure this puts on our center. I mentioned last week that I thought one of our issues against Rice was the demand it put on our guards, who were needed to help both inside and outside. UAB, with a big bruiser on Sal's nose, has me a little apprehensive.

I hope my worries are for naught.

Well...you nailed it. Any postgame thoughts? Always enjoy your insight.
 
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