United Health CEO assassination

[-CarlHungus-]

This is nuts.

It looks like a Jason Bourne movie hit job scene.

Silencers, ?subsonic rounds?, very calm.

Then we've got autists online tracking the scooter he rode off on.

Absolutely crazy.

 

[herdfan429]

John Q finally snapped

 

[i am herdman]

Wow, with the subsonic rounds you have to cycle the pistol manually. He did. They don't have enough power for the slide to blowback.

 

[-CarlHungus-]

 

[herdfan429]

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He hired his own hit man

 

[greengeezer]

It will be interesting to see where this goes. Not some random killing.

 

[raleighherdfan]

Anyone watching The Jackal on Peacock Network?

 

[herdfan06]

He hired his own hit man

Bulworth.

 

[GeauxHerd]

It will be interesting to see where this goes. Not some random killing.

Denied one to many claims.

 

[herdfan06]

Denied one to many claims.

 

[GeauxHerd]

I’m not a key board warrior and I’m typing responses quickly on an iPhone 14 Plus. Yes it should be “too”

 

[herdfan06]

I’m not a key board warrior and I’m typing responses quickly on an iPhone 14 Plus. Yes it should be “too”

It is quicker to type keyboard, than it is to type key board.

 

[GeauxHerd]

It is quicker to type keyboard, than it is to type key board.

Indead

 

[HerdandHokies]

This is nuts.

It looks like a Jason Bourne movie hit job scene.

Silencers, ?subsonic rounds?, very calm.

Then we've got autists online tracking the scooter he rode off on.

Absolutely crazy.

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Hold up Riley here does what exactly?

Also, my money is on his kid got denied something and died.

 

[herdfan06]

Indead

 

[herdfan429]

Shooter inscribed the words
Delay
Deny and
Depose on the shell casings.
* edited to correct one of the words

 

[-CarlHungus-]

Shooter inscribed the words
Delay
Deny and
Defend on the shell casings.

I thought hired hit man but I guess just amateur self trained pissed off customer.

 

[greengeezer]

If I went around shooting up every corporation that pissed me off, I’d need an M 30 machine gun and at lease six boxes of ammunition.

 

[-CarlHungus-]

If I went around shooting up every corporation that pissed me off, I’d need an M 30 machine gun and at lease six boxes of ammunition.

I will be curious to see what the beef was about.

Some of these insurance denials are shady...but some are very reasonable because just like everything in life, a few bad actors (doctors) spoil it for everyone and try to get away with it. I see second opinions a lot and the patients are like "the insurance denied X, I couldn't believe it" and I'm thinking "yeah, they denied it because there's no data for it...."

 

[greengeezer]

Every time my physician asks me if I’m willing to take some diagnostic test, I always answer the same way: “If my insurance pays for it, I have no problem taking the test. Otherwise, no.”

 

[big_country90]

I will be curious to see what the beef was about.

Some of these insurance denials are shady...but some are very reasonable because just like everything in life, a few bad actors (doctors) spoil it for everyone and try to get away with it. I see second opinions a lot and the patients are like "the insurance denied X, I couldn't believe it" and I'm thinking "yeah, they denied it because there's no data for it...."

Also…lest we forget…insurance is a financial tool and an insurance company is a business. They are in it to make money, period.

 

[-CarlHungus-]

Also…lest we forget…insurance is a financial tool and an insurance company is a business. They are in it to make money, period.

This is true, but it's a weird market with mandates, "caps," and so many moving parts and black boxes no one can figure it out. It's not as clean as say the life insurance, home insurance, car insurance business, etc.

It's a mess on the doctor and patient side.

I have resigned myself to not knowing what the "fix" is other than I am fully convinced we subsidize drug costs and R and D for the world and that just has to stop. It's bankrupting Medicare.

 

[HerdandHokies]

Shooter inscribed the words
Delay
Deny and
Depose on the shell casings.
* edited to correct one of the words

That is a reference to this book:

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[GeauxHerd]

I will be curious to see what the beef was about.

Some of these insurance denials are shady...but some are very reasonable because just like everything in life, a few bad actors (doctors) spoil it for everyone and try to get away with it. I see second opinions a lot and the patients are like "the insurance denied X, I couldn't believe it" and I'm thinking "yeah, they denied it because there's no data for it...."

That’s IF they find them

 

[HerdandHokies]

That’s IF they find them

They have a picture of his face. they may not find him alive but they’ll find him.

 

[-CarlHungus-]

Yeah to the untrained eye like me it looked like a slick assassin' work...but after reading and watching some expert opinion on it it looks more like a decently trained amateur.

I think they find him.

 

[greengeezer]

looks more like a decently trained amateur.

I wonder how many years of training it takes to learn how to walk up behind an unsuspecting person and shoot him in the back. I imagine it’s not a four year course with a residency or they would have called the killer Dr Assassin.

 

[HerdandHokies]

At the end of the day shooting someone isn’t that hard. The most impressive thing about it was they knew to use subsonic rounds but even that is something that a lot of people with familiarity of guns would know about. Really, about anybody could do this to about anybody regardless of training.

 

[-CarlHungus-]

I wonder how many years of training it takes to learn how to walk up behind an unsuspecting person and shoot him in the back. I imagine it’s not a four year course with a residency or they would have called the killer Dr Assassin.

The way he re-chambered the rounds and used sub sonic rounds seemed more advanced but I guess maybe it isn't.

 

[greengeezer]

The way he re-chambered the rounds and used sub sonic rounds seemed more advanced but I guess maybe it isn't.

He might be a “specialist “.

 

[HerdandHokies]

The way he re-chambered the rounds and used sub sonic rounds seemed more advanced but I guess maybe it isn't.

It implies knowledge or research into guns. But that doesn’t narrow things down much.

Just Google “quiet bullets” (or don’t if you don’t want on a list) and you’ll find info on subsonic rounds. Google “how to use subsonic rounds” or take a gun with them outside and try it out and you’ll find out about rechambering. This wasn’t exactly a polonium tipped umbrella.

Edit: it also shows that this was planned ahead of time and targeted but I think we knew that already anyway.

 

[greengeezer]

I have used subsonic rounds since I was a kid. They are called BBs. My deer laugh at me when the rounds fall harmlessly off their chests then they go back to eating my shrubbery.

 

[-CarlHungus-]

It implies knowledge or research into guns. But that doesn’t narrow things down much.

Just Google “quiet bullets” (or don’t if you don’t want on a list) and you’ll find info on subsonic rounds. Google “how to use subsonic rounds” or take a gun with them outside and try it out and you’ll find out about rechambering. This wasn’t exactly a polonium tipped umbrella.

Edit: it also shows that this was planned ahead of time and targeted but I think we knew that already anyway.

I'm not too familiar with pistols and I think in my mind when that video popped up it looke dmore like a Jason Bourne hit than what I thought I was going to see - like a World Star video or something.

 

[i am herdman]

At the end of the day shooting someone isn’t that hard. The most impressive thing about it was they knew to use subsonic rounds but even that is something that a lot of people with familiarity of guns would know about. Really, about anybody could do this to about anybody regardless of training.

Trained assassin or a high level guy would probably have shot him at closer range. Back of the head. Walked up behind him and done it. Wouldn't have ben all those shots and I believe I read or heard that one hit him in the leg or back maybe.

They guy did know what he was doing somewhat though. At least had planned it and maybe practiced.

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

I have resigned myself to not knowing what the "fix" is

Come on, lemme hear that dirty word:

 

[i am herdman]

Come on, lemme hear that dirty word:

Yehh that always works. Let's let politicians run our healthcare. They know what is best.

 

[HerdandHokies]

Yehh that always works. Let's let politicians run our healthcare. They know what is best.

The alternative right now seems to be insurance companies refusing to pay for anesthesia if you’re over 22 so…

 

[-CarlHungus-]

The alternative right now seems to be insurance companies refusing to pay for anesthesia if you’re over 22 so…

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

Yehh that always works.

Yes, quoting movies is always a good message board strategy.

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

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Violence gets shit done.