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If not for that fluke TD to Ali, it would be 10.
Lol. No. Huff blamed the players after the game for not executing. Cole was one of the players he called out. Said he doesn't know what plays he can call when the players juat don't execute.
Which in reality is on him. Our guys make more mental mistakes than anything. Because they are not well coached, plain and simple. Guys always looking to sidelines with hands up. Who is that on? At the end of the day it's on the coaches and they all need replaced. It's their recruits and their system, no one to blame but themselves.
Exactly. This is how management works when you're in charge of an organization. If you screw up, the folks in the C-suite will call you in, rip your ass and tell you to figure it out.
Then it starts rolling downhill. You look through your assistant directors to see who's not getting things done; they will be given the opportunity to also look through their direct reports to clean house.
Huff won't do this, because apparently he has has limited coaching connections. At the end of the day, the responsibility for how this organization performs falls squarely on Huff's shoulders.
Clowns like Perkins have clearly never worked in management.
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If you watched the game, Huff isn't wrong.
Maybe he shoudn't have told the truth in public, but you cannot run an offense when the skill players are not reliable.
So, in your opinion, does that mean it's the player's fault or Huff's?
He needs to own this mess. He's the incompetent, flashy talking egomaniac who created it.
He is feeling the pressure - it is interesting that he blamed the players initially vs. taking the blame himself and coaches. As a HC, you have to own the outcome! Huff may have lost the team and players this season.
It is on the players. It's been an issue all year because they're not good enough. Apparently the BUs aren't good enough either. Huff & Trickett don't actually throw the ball or catch the ball.
Now as far as the roster goes, there's plenty of blame to be laid at the feet of the Huff & company.
It's most likely a combination.
I keep reading "player development".
"Development" depends upon coaching, the players' talent & the players' dedication to their personal improvement. It's the same with teaching & learning.
You can't teach a tone-deaf person to sing, regardless of the quality of instruction or his/her dedication.
A person who cannot understand math isn't going to do well taking physics 121 or chemistry 211 or understand epidemiology.
Now assuming that these players do have some talent, we really don't have much evidence regarding the quality of instruction verses the players' maximizing their talents & the players' dedication.
What is true is that Huff & company built this collection of 'skill' players who don't reliably catch passes and riding with a QB who cannot accurately place on time even those sideline screens with consistancy.
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Coaches can’t put In drills to work on skills that are lacking during practice? Use the hell out of the jugs machine for the wide receivers, put the qbs through whatever computer system we touted having a couple years ago go on Amazon and buy a 300 reaction time trainer. Spend time on footwork, and tackling technique.
How do you know that they are not using state of the art training practices?
Again, you're blaming the teacher for what could very well be the pupils' lack of ability and/or dedication.
Trust me I’m a teacher I know all about kids and their lack of ability. But I also know how to put them in situations to succeed And. I know what they need to work on and tailor things for them. That is not happening
I'm a retired physics teacher...all levels of HS physics from Conceptual through AP C electricity and magnetism.
No amount of tailoring will work if the student's ability is insufficient.
I understand your point, but there's no amount of excuses (other than deliberate sabotage on behalf of the players) which admonishes Huff from complete and total fault. The buck stops with him.
You had students of varying ability in your classes I assume. Did you just teach them all the same and say screw it? I highly doubt that. Differentiate instruction is all I’m saying
For AP classes, you pretty much have to teach them all the same, but help with tutoring & study sessions. With other classes , there's more flexibility to 'diffentiate' but there are still limits for that.
If a prerequiste for the 12th grade physics or physics honors class is Algebra 2, Geometry & right triangle trig, and a student doesn't meet those qualifications or understand the principles needed from those classes, then it's time counsel him out of the class.
That student will bog down the rest of the class, limiting the rest of the students' opportunity for getting the most out of the class.
And it is very unlikely for the underprepared student to perform well enough to exceed an F or D anyway.
We now have posters telling us that they "know" which drills are occurring in practices??? Having attended exactly 0 Marshall Football practices???
The teacher analogy doesn’t fly since you didn’t have the option to go out and hand pick the kids that you would be instructing.
There is no getting away from responsibility if you are the head coach:
The assistants are bad - you hired them.
The players lack skills - you recruited them.
The players have the skills, but not the right effort level - you recruited them.
Every recruit costs your company $40,000 a year, at least, even at Marshall. So you are spending $1,000,000 a year on new talent with a “rolling payroll” of $4,000,000 for players. It is the responsibility of the Head Coach, and no one else, to make sure that investment is for personnel that can do the job they are brought here to do.
If a WR can’t catch or won’t listen or can’t learn, he was a bad recruit. Head Coaches’ fault. Period.
There is no getting away from responsibility if you are the head coach:
The assistants are bad - you hired them.
The players lack skills - you recruited them.
The players have the skills, but not the right effort level - you recruited them.
Every recruit costs your company $40,000 a year, at least, even at Marshall. So you are spending $1,000,000 a year on new talent with a “rolling payroll” of $4,000,000 for players. It is the responsibility of the Head Coach, and no one else, to make sure that investment is for personnel that can do the job they are brought here to do.
If a WR can’t catch or won’t listen or can’t learn, he was a bad recruit. Head Coaches’ fault. Period.
No, you aren't.
"Lack of ability"? Is that what we are calling their genitals these days?
I don't think that many of us are particularly impressed with the level of talent of the current roster.
You're correct in that in most situations a teacher doesn't recruit students in the basic, common classes. But you might be surprised that in advanced classes in the sciences, arts & music, teachers do 'recruit' (make strong suggestions) to encourage pupils who have shown high levels of aptitude in those disciplines to enroll in those challenging classes.
That said, recruiting and coaching/learning are different things.
There is not a sure way for the coaches to predict how well and how quickly a recruit will actually 'get it'. For all the homework done by the recruiter in scouting the games, talking to his HS coaches, counselors, administrators, etc, plus maybe seeing the recruit for a couple days at a camp...it's only an educated guess about who catches on & who doesn't.
Portal players at the G5 level, I would imagine that the staff looks at game tape (if available), practice tape, talk to the position coaches (if possible) and probably go back to the HSs in some cases. So it's still educated guessing.
If I'm recruiting a student to enroll in my AP Physics class, either me or another physics teacher have seen how he/she has performed for an his/her entire junior year. I have a pretty good idea on how well he/she will do...a lot better idea than Huff and company will perform with whom they've brought in.
You are correct that Huff and his staff are responsible for the quality of the roster.
But we are not in a position to evaluate on whether the shortcomings are a matter whether it's who was recruited or how well they are coached in practice or a combination of both.
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