Western is killing it. Just signed another Top 50 kid last night. They now have a Top 10 class in B'ball signings. Impressive for sure.
WKU has top 10 Class in B'ball
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Stansbury has a rep of not always being on the up and up. I'm sure this is the case now. I believe he has zero interest in staying at WKU. He wants to win quickly at any cost and get another P5 school. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see sanctions after he is gone.
In the meantime, WKU must be loving life in CUSA. They are winning or competing for championships in multiple sports quickly.
In the meantime, WKU must be loving life in CUSA. They are winning or competing for championships in multiple sports quickly.
I don't know if I would insinuate that he is cheating now. They do have a very good B'ball history and good fan support. Hell schools say we cheat by taking all the NQ's - they just don't understand the process.
Yep. They seem to have a very good program overall.
RS has been shady but the NCAA has never caught him. I am willing to give anybody the benefit of a doubt until they get caught.
WKU has limits. It is a directional school in a state that really is not all that big and the Greatest Team in the Greatest Conference soaks up 99.9% of the attention and Loserville gets most of what is left over, when not on probation for operating a house of ill fame. There is only so much you can do at a place like WKU. If RS does well there, anybody who does not think he is at the top of the list is living in a WKU delusional world. As the piece of human debris coaching 2 hours up I-65 seems to be in an unsurvivable position (and is 65 and has more ill gotten $$ than he can ever spend) he would seem an obvious choice there. A guy does not live life in the Big Time of the SEC for 22 years to spend his golden years on the bus to world centers like Huntington, Denton, Hattisburg, Norfolk, Ruston, and Murfreesboro.
Three years, max.
WKU has limits. It is a directional school in a state that really is not all that big and the Greatest Team in the Greatest Conference soaks up 99.9% of the attention and Loserville gets most of what is left over, when not on probation for operating a house of ill fame. There is only so much you can do at a place like WKU. If RS does well there, anybody who does not think he is at the top of the list is living in a WKU delusional world. As the piece of human debris coaching 2 hours up I-65 seems to be in an unsurvivable position (and is 65 and has more ill gotten $$ than he can ever spend) he would seem an obvious choice there. A guy does not live life in the Big Time of the SEC for 22 years to spend his golden years on the bus to world centers like Huntington, Denton, Hattisburg, Norfolk, Ruston, and Murfreesboro.
Three years, max.
WKU has been a very good basketball program for a hell of a lot longer than we've been good at football and basketball combined...
Geebus, why do some of our fans try to make themselves fell better by cutting down another school or coach. Looks very small minded.
Our fans are a piece of work sometimes. LOL!
It's an absolute joke it's been 28 years since our last regular season title, 29 years since our last conference tournament title, and 28 years since our last NCAA tournament appearance.
No one is saying that MU is superior to WKU, either in terms of history (Hilltoppers are clearly superior) or the oft heard CUSA mantra of "potential" (about equal, IMHO, mainly because WV has 2 DI schools, while Kentucky has 6, 2 of those being among the top 10 of 15 all time). No one is "puting down" WKU either. Certainly not me.
But RS coached in the SEC. Successfully. People that have tasted life in the SEC (et al) do not go to Bowling Green, KY and put up with the limits of life in CUSA unless they are trying to make it back to the top.
WKU and its fans should enjoy the ride. But anybody who thinks WKU is a final career post for a ball coach is living in a delusional world.
And, I would say the same thing about MU. Exactly the same. That is probably the main reason that both of our main men's head coaches are non-traditional hires.
But RS coached in the SEC. Successfully. People that have tasted life in the SEC (et al) do not go to Bowling Green, KY and put up with the limits of life in CUSA unless they are trying to make it back to the top.
WKU and its fans should enjoy the ride. But anybody who thinks WKU is a final career post for a ball coach is living in a delusional world.
And, I would say the same thing about MU. Exactly the same. That is probably the main reason that both of our main men's head coaches are non-traditional hires.
If UofL survives with no major sanctions for running a whorehouse, Pitino might coach there until he dies.
Some people (schools) weigh the pros and cons of cheating. Some at Clemson would swear that the sustained success they have had in football in some part goes back to when they had a head coach in late 70s-early 80s named Charlie Pell, better known by the moniker of "Cheatin Charlie". Others in Tiger Land still swear AT ole Charlie!!
Another example close to home in our CUSA: Curious on what FIU is paying new football coach, Butch Jones, with his much checkered past and baggage and just signed to a 5 year deal. Bet it is a hell of a lot more $$$$$ than any previous Panther fb coach has gotten. Admin at FIU, like at Western, rolled the dice and obviously decided that Jones and Stansbury will lead their schools' respective sports to newer and greater heights than attained in recent seasons, perhaps never. That obviously outweighed any possible negatives like, uh, well, "we could end up in a messy situations, under NCAA investigation, put on probation, etc., etc., by these guys actions as our head coaches"!!
Time will come when, not too far down the road, MU administrators will have to decide to try for a "name" coach or coaches in our revenue sports, versus our recent strategy of just going with someone who "bleeds green", has some close, or even not so close connection to MU, or, finally, just someone that our AD has had some type of personal knowledge or connection with (e.g., Kayo Marcum and Ron Jirsa, Hamrick and Tom Herrion via TH's brother Bill, etc.). MU, of course, can't compete $ for $ with bigger schools, but can up the ante reasonably to obtain an established coach, with a hefty buyout package that protects the school. You cannot reasonably say that MU was left in a lesser position by the brief tenures of Billy Donovan and Dana Altman, who have made, and continue to make, their marks post MU at the top of their sport. Don't think either left with MU under any "cloud" of impropriety or other negative issues.
Of course, some then argue, well, let's get someone who wants to be at MU, etc., etc., which more often than not leads to an average to mediocre tenure, with some temporary successes, but resulting in the school being irrelevant on the national scene and essentially, wallowing in obscurity.
Another example close to home in our CUSA: Curious on what FIU is paying new football coach, Butch Jones, with his much checkered past and baggage and just signed to a 5 year deal. Bet it is a hell of a lot more $$$$$ than any previous Panther fb coach has gotten. Admin at FIU, like at Western, rolled the dice and obviously decided that Jones and Stansbury will lead their schools' respective sports to newer and greater heights than attained in recent seasons, perhaps never. That obviously outweighed any possible negatives like, uh, well, "we could end up in a messy situations, under NCAA investigation, put on probation, etc., etc., by these guys actions as our head coaches"!!
Time will come when, not too far down the road, MU administrators will have to decide to try for a "name" coach or coaches in our revenue sports, versus our recent strategy of just going with someone who "bleeds green", has some close, or even not so close connection to MU, or, finally, just someone that our AD has had some type of personal knowledge or connection with (e.g., Kayo Marcum and Ron Jirsa, Hamrick and Tom Herrion via TH's brother Bill, etc.). MU, of course, can't compete $ for $ with bigger schools, but can up the ante reasonably to obtain an established coach, with a hefty buyout package that protects the school. You cannot reasonably say that MU was left in a lesser position by the brief tenures of Billy Donovan and Dana Altman, who have made, and continue to make, their marks post MU at the top of their sport. Don't think either left with MU under any "cloud" of impropriety or other negative issues.
Of course, some then argue, well, let's get someone who wants to be at MU, etc., etc., which more often than not leads to an average to mediocre tenure, with some temporary successes, but resulting in the school being irrelevant on the national scene and essentially, wallowing in obscurity.
That's the thing about college athletics - the best way to tell if a program is cheating is to look in the win column. Hundreds of teams, expected to self-monitor under a blanket of nigh-unenforceable rules....barring an accidental Tweet or David Ridpath, schools can pretty much decide if they want to obey the rules or not. The ones that do lose to the ones that don't.
I don't think anyone is trying to cut them down, it just seems strange that a coach that has a reputation as a potential cheat could land a bunch of highly rated players at a decent mid-major program that has never had a history of getting players of that caliber out of high school. He is like Calipari, the accusations of cheating have been there for years.
Once again, Stansbury has a connection to the 2 players from Louisiana. He pretty much knows their entire family and he even has their former AAU coach on his staff.
And as far as recruiting violations, if your talking about the Renardo Sidney situation, he was exonerated and proven he was not at fault.
And as far as recruiting violations, if your talking about the Renardo Sidney situation, he was exonerated and proven he was not at fault.
Anybody that gets a player that wouldnt even mention Marshall, the fans yell cheating. Marshall basketball fans are the least intelligent basketball fans in the world. The product on the floor reflects that. Yea WKU is real big time in cheating,lol. They have had some good teams. They have beaten Ky and Louisville. Ky was caught cheating in 88 but not one thing since. The very committee of the ncaa that dropped the hammer on ky now work for KY making sure Ky never violates anything. Calipari is one the group of coaches to do away with one and dones. Most here think that is a college rule but its a pro rule. Thank you fever. Regardless of what they say about you i dont think you are a kool aid drinker
