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Wrestlemania thoughts?

ThunderCat98

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Night 1 was fantastic.

Outside of GUNTHER/Sheamus/Drew, night 2 was just awful.

Asuka should have won.

Cody should have won. Not really sure where you go with the storyline now.
 
Didn’t watch .

But I’m fine with the no Cody win. Need a longer build than Rumble to Mania to take the belt off Roman.

I wonder if the sale of the company has sometimg to do with it - wanting a stable champ , etc.
 
I’m an adult and have watched wrestling in 20 years. Grow up
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Didn’t watch .

But I’m fine with the no Cody win. Need a longer build than Rumble to Mania to take the belt off Roman.

I wonder if the sale of the company has sometimg to do with it - wanting a stable champ , etc.
I think it has more to do with allowing him to reach the 1,000 day plateau, which is a terrible reason, IMHO. If you're going to knock him off, there's no bigger stage/event than WM. Any other time will just feel cheap.
 
Still chewing on both nights. Night 1 was perfectly booked and Night 2 was such a let down. Vince and his F*** You Money made its way back into the product after a brief "retirement." Probably why we're seeing all those talen acquisitions/re-acquisitions last fall just drop like flies in the storyline end of things.

And I think we know why:


The executives had the Endeavor merger already in the bag prior to this weekend and night 2 felt like Vince was back in charge with his booking—because he was. Cody was overbooked to the moon and for this to be the outcome doesn't make sense and is indicative of Vince having his hands back onto the creative end.

Even in the CNBC interview this morning, he said he wasn't going to be "in the weeds," which was his EXACT quote in 2019 when he appointed Bischoff and Heyman as creative heads. It was still Vince shredding the scripts at the last minute.

With the Endeavor merger, we're going to see more crossover with stars like Conor McGregor being involved, but it's still going to be these stale championship pushes until Vince is dead.

With last night's logic, Stone Cold would have lost to Michaels at WM 14, and Bryan would have lost at WM 30. I really think it was done to keep an established face of the company at the top of the card due to the merger. Hopefully they can right the ship on this storyline, but that's a tough task even without Vince involved—which he is now, no question.
 
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Still chewing on both nights. Night 1 was perfectly booked and Night 2 was such a let down. Vince and his F*** You Money made its way back into the product after a brief "retirement." Probably why we're seeing all those talen acquisitions/re-acquisitions last fall just drop like flies in the storyline end of things.

And I think we know why:


The executives had the Endeavor merger already in the bag prior to this weekend and night 2 felt like Vince was back in charge with his booking—because he was. Cody was overbooked to the moon and for this to be the outcome doesn't make sense and is indicative of Vince having his hands back onto the creative end.

Even in the CNBC interview this morning, he said he wasn't going to be "in the weeds," which was his EXACT quote in 2019 when he appointed Bischoff and Heyman as creative heads. It was still Vince shredding the scripts at the last minute.

With the Endeavor merger, we're going to see more crossover with stars like Conor McGregor being involved, but it's still going to be these stale championship pushes until Vince is dead.

With last night's logic, Stone Cold would have lost to Michaels at WM 14, and Bryan would have lost at WM 30. I really think it was done to keep an established face of the company at the top of the card due to the merger. Hopefully they can right the ship on this storyline, but that's a tough task even without Vince involved—which he is now, no question.
dude is a walking advertisement for Just For Men hair coloring.
 
Here is the last time he used the "in the weeds" quote. We know how that worked out.

Vince is literally The Thing now: "then, now, together, forever."

 
It’s amusing to me that they styled it “WWE goes Hollywood” then had the card in Inglewood. Ain’t the same Wood, that’s for sure.
 
Regarding my wrestling fan demographics in the other thread . . . I believe that I have left one out: number of lifetime sexual partners < 1.
 
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I don't watch wrestling either, but do realize it's a big market, and popular with some. I take that back. I do watch college wrestling on the B1G network usually on Friday nights when nothing else is on, particularly if it's a top ten match between traditional powerhouse programs.

I used to watch wrestling when I was a kid though. Watched Saturday night wrestling on WOAY, with Shirley Love doing the play by play. A few of them lived not far from me. The Cuban Assassins, Jan Madrid and his brother, and others lived mainly over in Oak Hill. Pretty good programming on a Saturday night back then. All in the Family, followed by The Jeffersons, then Saturday night wrestling, followed by Don Kirshner's Rock Show/Midnight Special.
 
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Still chewing on both nights. Night 1 was perfectly booked and Night 2 was such a let down. Vince and his F*** You Money made its way back into the product after a brief "retirement." Probably why we're seeing all those talen acquisitions/re-acquisitions last fall just drop like flies in the storyline end of things.

And I think we know why:


The executives had the Endeavor merger already in the bag prior to this weekend and night 2 felt like Vince was back in charge with his booking—because he was. Cody was overbooked to the moon and for this to be the outcome doesn't make sense and is indicative of Vince having his hands back onto the creative end.

Even in the CNBC interview this morning, he said he wasn't going to be "in the weeds," which was his EXACT quote in 2019 when he appointed Bischoff and Heyman as creative heads. It was still Vince shredding the scripts at the last minute.

With the Endeavor merger, we're going to see more crossover with stars like Conor McGregor being involved, but it's still going to be these stale championship pushes until Vince is dead.

With last night's logic, Stone Cold would have lost to Michaels at WM 14, and Bryan would have lost at WM 30. I really think it was done to keep an established face of the company at the top of the card due to the merger. Hopefully they can right the ship on this storyline, but that's a tough task even without Vince involved—which he is now, no question.
I guess wrestling is a sport . It is just fake stuff and would not waste my time watching it. But if it entertains you have at it.
 
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It may very well be so. Me, I'd rather have a full-time champion going forward with the merger.
From a business perspective, Reigns has established that he creates revenue at the gate, PPV buys, and merchandise. Those are established revenue streams I'm sure they want to flex through the transition. As someone looking at the bottom line, it makes perfect sense. As a fan, it sucks.
 
From a business perspective, Reigns has established that he creates revenue at the gate, PPV buys, and merchandise. Those are established revenue streams I'm sure they want to flex through the transition. As someone looking at the bottom line, it makes perfect sense. As a fan, it sucks.
If Endeavor’s approach toward UFC is any indication, buckle up because it’ll only get worse.
 
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I don't watch wrestling either, but do realize it's a big market, and popular with some. I take that back. I do watch college wrestling on the B1G network usually on Friday nights when nothing else is on, particularly if it's a top ten match between traditional powerhouse programs.

I used to watch wrestling when I was a kid though. Watched Saturday night wrestling on WOAY, with Shirley Love doing the play by play. A few of them lived not far from me. The Cuban Assassins, Jan Madrid and his brother, and others lived mainly over in Oak Hill. Pretty good programming on a Saturday night back then. All in the Family, followed by The Jeffersons, then Saturday night wrestling, followed by Don Kirshner's Rock Show/Midnight Special.
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If Endeavor’s approach toward UFC is any indication, buckle up because it’ll only get worse.
Yeah I checked the financials and they're pretty volatile. I have no skin in the game because I'm not a stockholder. I just want entertained.
 
Well financially I guess Endeavor has done great with the UFC, mainly by not paying big name fighters to fight and relying on guaranteed-minimum PPV deals with ESPN and the die hards who will buy anything.

So, yeah. Buckle up.
 
Well financially I guess Endeavor has done great with the UFC, mainly by not paying big name fighters to fight and relying on guaranteed-minimum PPV deals with ESPN and the die hards who will buy anything.

So, yeah. Buckle up.
Yeah I'm expecting PPVs to increase tremendously. It is what it is.

It could potentially force WWE to trim their roster again with all the recent acquisitions in Q4 of 2022. Maybe they'll be forced to actually utilize the talent better in lieu of creative saying "we have nothing for you right now" while the talent is locked into a contract with a 90-day no compete clause.
 
. Maybe they'll be forced to actually utilize the talent better in lieu of creative saying "we have nothing for you right now" while the talent is locked into a contract with a 90-day no compete clause.
There’s no “I” in “independent contractor”!
 
In what world does it make sense for Brock to turn on Cody to the benefit of Reigns? Yep. That settles it. Vince is back in charge of creative.
 
Talkin' about Rasslemania sure brings back some good memories from years ago (especially Rasslemania 3). After the original ECW went down the tubes (i.e. when it was taken over by the McMahon's) I pretty much quit watching live rasslin (sans Billy Corgan's N.W.A. project).
 
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