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Yeah..."suicide"

Nothing to see here, move along.

Who kills themselves by putting a plastic bag over their head and inserting a helium tube? Also, life insurance doesn't usually pay out for suicide.
 
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"Guy tries to show the Clintons are criminals, decides to commit suicide right before he does so."

Round and round we go.
 
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Remember Comey's quote as to why he went along with Lynch's specific instruction on how to refer publicly to the Hillary investigation? It's "not a hill I wanted to die on."
 
I like the chicken nuggets from Wendy's better than McDonald's. That how you guys do it?

I'd rather be suicided by Killary Roadham Clinton than eat Wendy's chicken nuggets.

But seriously, do you actually go to Wendy's and get the chicken nuggets? Fvck that, I'm going for that damn Baconator® or if I'm feeling like eating healthy, Son of Baconator®
 
I'd rather be suicided by Killary Roadham Clinton than eat Wendy's chicken nuggets.

But seriously, do you actually go to Wendy's and get the chicken nuggets? Fvck that, I'm going for that damn Baconator® or if I'm feeling like eating healthy, Son of Baconator®

Real talk. I went to a christmas party back in december and light hors d'oeuvres were served when I thought there would be actual food. I was starving when I left and the only thing open only my way home was fast food. I saw a sign outside of a Wendy's advertising the Baconator® and whipped through the drive-through to get one.

That may have been the best meal I've ever had. That burger was phenomenal.
 
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Nothing to see here, move along.

Who kills themselves by putting a plastic bag over their head and inserting a helium tube? Also, life insurance doesn't usually pay out for suicide.

Yes....Life Insurance policies do pay for suicide. As long as the suicide occurs outside of the contestibilty clause, usually 2 years.
 
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Real talk. I went to a christmas party back in december and light hors d'oeuvres were served when I thought there would be actual food. I was starving when I left and the only thing open only my way home was fast food. I saw a sign outside of a Wendy's advertising the Baconator® and whipped through the drive-through to get one.

That may have been the best meal I've ever had. That burger was phenomenal.
wendy's burgers are legit. who were the divorced hors being served?
 
Real talk. I went to a christmas party back in december and light hors d'oeuvres were served when I thought there would be actual food. I was starving when I left and the only thing open only my way home was fast food. I saw a sign outside of a Wendy's advertising the Baconator® and whipped through the drive-through to get one.

That may have been the best meal I've ever had. That burger was phenomenal.
I had a heart attack a couple years ago & it immediately forces you into a different mindset about food. Not that I really ate bad beforehand, but obviously it shakes you into a different perception of food. I still get salads from Wendy's because it's close to both my offices but when I go through the drive through & see the seasonal burgers - holy God they've passed Hardee's for selling attempted murder on a bun. I'm sure they're delicious too.
 
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I had a heart attack a couple years ago & it immediately forces you into a different mindset about food. Not that I really ate bad beforehand, but obviously it shakes you into a different perception of food. I still get salad's from Wendy's because it's close to both my offices but when I go through the drive through & see the seasonal burgers - holy God they've passed Hardee's for selling attempted murder on a bun. I'm sure they're delicious too.

Working in the oncology world I go back and forth between need to eat healthy to prevent health problems and then see a dude who is in phenomenal shape and got some awful malignancy and then I think F it I'm not depriving myself of this delicious goodness.

Like most things in life there's probably a balance; finding it is hard.
 
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I don't eat chicken nuggets...just playing the Pullman game. I do eat the grilled naked tenders from BW3s with a side of medium sauce. Only 260 calories and a nice amount of proteins (can't remember how many). Sigh...counting calories. My life.
 
Wendy's has multiple commercials for the Baconator that openly celebrates the fact vegetables aren't allowed on the sandwich.
 
I don't eat chicken nuggets...just playing the Pullman game. I do eat the grilled naked tenders from BW3s with a side of medium sauce. Only 260 calories and a nice amount of proteins (can't remember how many). Sigh...counting calories. My life.

Do you use anything like this? I've used a digital scale for a few years but I have to look up macros for everything. I saw this on FB last night and think I may give it a try.

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Do you use anything like this? I've used a digital scale for a few years but I have to look up macros for everything. I saw this on FB last night and think I may give it a try.


I use combo of Fitbit, my fitness pal, and just looking up calories. I'll take a look at it. I lost 40 pounds but for the life of me I can't get the last 15-20. I'm going to hit it hard after vacation though.
 
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I had a heart attack a couple years ago & it immediately forces you into a different mindset about food. Not that I really ate bad beforehand, but obviously it shakes you into a different perception of food. I still get salads from Wendy's because it's close to both my offices but when I go through the drive through & see the seasonal burgers - holy God they've passed Hardee's for selling attempted murder on a bun. I'm sure they're delicious too.

My diet is painfully regimented and strict. So much so that I affects my social life. But every once in a while I'll blow it out and eat something like the baconator or an entire box of oreos just to keep my sanity. Then I self-hate for a day or two after doing it and get back on the wagon.
 
I use combo of Fitbit, my fitness pal, and just looking up calories. I'll take a look at it. I lost 40 pounds but for the life of me I can't get the last 15-20. I'm going to hit it hard after vacation though.

Have you ever looked into intermittent fasting? I do a 16/8 fast every day with fasted cardio most mornings, and it works really, really well.
 
Have you ever looked into intermittent fasting? I do a 16/8 fast every day with fasted cardio most mornings, and it works really, really well.

Everything I've read about IF is positive. And it's not a fad diet that masks shitty eating habits with short term results.
 
Have you ever looked into intermittent fasting? I do a 16/8 fast every day with fasted cardio most mornings, and it works really, really well.

I've read a little about it in Reddit/fitness. I'm a big proponent of calories in/calories out. That might work for me but I haven't tried it. I've been lifting weights for two years but my back doesn't allow me to run. I do walk between 5 to 7 miles a day. I just need to get one more good dedicated run at it to get where I want. Getting there.
 
Have you ever looked into intermittent fasting? I do a 16/8 fast every day with fasted cardio most mornings, and it works really, really well.

totally going to look into this. any website(s) you follow as well for this?
 
totally going to look into this. any website(s) you follow as well for this?

Jim Stoppani has a few write ups and at least one youtube vid covering it. He goes into details of what breaks a fast and what doesn't. Black coffee in the morning doesn't but adding cream or sugar obviously will, a fat burner won't but fish oil will (I think). He has it all detailed out for you.
 
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Yes. I've found it most effective for me between 2p-10p.

The lean gains thing. Martin Berkhan is nuts but he's right I think.

I think this is great. I still eat like this now (black coffee in AM, eat from 12-8 only) but am so out of shape and soft now it doesn't matter. Lots of good data about this and the best I ever looked and felt was on leangains, fasted morning cardio with BCAA and carbs weighted after workouts with low-ish carbs on rest days.
 
I've read a little about it in Reddit/fitness. I'm a big proponent of calories in/calories out. That might work for me but I haven't tried it. I've been lifting weights for two years but my back doesn't allow me to run. I do walk between 5 to 7 miles a day. I just need to get one more good dedicated run at it to get where I want. Getting there.

You would combine IF with counting calories. You still need to eat at a deficit, but the energy you use while in the fasted state will come from glycogen stores as opposed to from food, which will aid in weight loss.
 
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The lean gains thing. Martin Berkhan is nuts but he's right I think.

I think this is great. I still eat like this now (black coffee in AM, eat from 12-8 only) but am so out of shape and soft now it doesn't matter. Lots of good data about this and the best I ever looked and felt was on leangains, fasted morning cardio with BCAA and carbs weighted after workouts with low-ish carbs on rest days.

That's what I do, with the exception of the carb loading after lifting (I just drink a shake) and the coffee.

I'd like to be able to do a 72+ hour fast to see how it would work, but I feel like I would lose too much muscle. It's hard enough keeping any size running 30+ miles a week.
 
You would combine IF with counting calories. You still need to eat at a deficit, but the energy you use while in the fasted state will come from glycogen stores as opposed to from food, which will aid in weight loss.

When I'm teaching I have a very regimented diet. This summer...I've fallen a little. I think I've gained 2 or 3 pounds and I'm miserable. When I get disgusted I usually come out and kill it.

When I'm teaching I get up at 5:30. I eat a breakfast of 280 calories with 52 grams of protein. At Walmart I've found a protein shake with only 160 calories and 30 grams of protein. It's called Premier Protein...

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This is the best calorie to protein drink I've found.

For lunch I'd eat 320 calories. I'd have 12 proteins and 90 calories in cottage cheese, 11 proteins and 80 calories in yogurt, and a sandwich with lean meat and usually red peppers or some kind of vegetable. I would go into my evening meal with 600 cals and 90 grams of protein. This allowed me to have a nice caloric intake at dinner which kept me satisfied in the evening. My BMR is around 1900 calories and I'd usually try to register 2500 calories burned (that includes my BMR) with a deficit of around 500 calories. That's a pound a week.

But I'm back sliding a little over the last month and half so after I get back from Hilton Head I need to focus. I need 15-20 pounds.
 
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That's what I do, with the exception of the carb loading after lifting (I just drink a shake) and the coffee.

I'd like to be able to do a 72+ hour fast to see how it would work, but I feel like I would lose too much muscle. It's hard enough keeping any size running 30+ miles a week.

https://tim.blog/2016/09/25/dom-dagostino-on-disease-prevention-cancer-and-living-longer/

This is a podcast with a researcher discussing a ketogenic based diet and fasting, among other topics. I think he has been on this podcast a couple times discussing this very topic. I found it to be really interesting.
 
I'd rather be suicided by Killary Roadham Clinton than eat Wendy's chicken nuggets.

But seriously, do you actually go to Wendy's and get the chicken nuggets? Fvck that, I'm going for that damn Baconator® or if I'm feeling like eating healthy, Son of Baconator®

God Bless a man that uses the registered trademark symbol in a message board post. Brings a tear to my eye.

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I've used the intermittent fasting over the last year to positive results.

Last July, I started focusing on getting my weight down, and from late July through late Oct, I dropped about 25 pounds. The stress of also taking on the challenge of teaching business courses in the LCOB helped curb my appetite. A byproduct of this additional work was having less time to exercise, and so, from Nov. through April, I was more-or-less not exercising and slowly put back on 12 or 14.

In essentially early May, I started back with the low-calorie + exercise. I'm back to the weight I was at around Oct. I have about 25 to go and then I'll reassess. I'm hitting the plateau because the calories I burn right now are very low impact (burning about 1000 a day on stationary bike), but it is not intense cardio in any sense. I am considering increasing the cardio effort and adding a bit of muscle toning (I have no interest in adding actual muscle mass - my goal is to get back to a free-ranging, flexible state so I can get back to generating club-head speed with the golf clubs).

FWIW.
 
Working in the oncology world I go back and forth between need to eat healthy to prevent health problems and then see a dude who is in phenomenal shape and got some awful malignancy and then I think F it I'm not depriving myself of this delicious goodness.

Like most things in life there's probably a balance; finding it is hard.
For some reason I thought you were a Cardiologist.
 
I've mentioned both of these things on here in the past:

1) You have to learn your body. You have to learn what allows your body to put on mass, get cut, etc. Different things work for different people, and it takes years of working out religiously and with different methods to know exactly what your body best responds to.

2) The best way for my body to quickly cut is to do hard cardio once I wake up. If I can get in 20 minutes of hard cardio on an empty stomach, I tend to lose weight and get cut much faster than anything else I have done. Of course, eating breakfast right after basically eliminates those calories since my metabolism is racing from my quick but hard cardio.

I discovered that working best for me years ago. Before taking a vacation, a girl and I weighed ourselves thinking we were going to gain a lot of weight from an all-inclusive resort. I was shocked to see I had lost a few pounds when I got back. It was because we would both get up and do a quick but hard cardio once we woke up so that we wouldn't feel guilty all day and could justify our eating a little more. I have duplicated that same method numerous times and it always works best for me.
 
I turn 60 on my next birthday (ugh...that was hard to say.) I'm in pretty good health and condition for someone my age with the exception of my lower back. I have deteriorated disc issues. I had fusion in my neck years ago and have no problem there. This is frustrating because I can't run or squat when I lift. Anything that compresses the spine gives me fits where I experience tingling in my feet and hips. No big deal...I get around it.

But I'm limited a little. My lifting I do 4 days per week. I walk religiously and don't miss often. But this summer I've back slid in the eating a little and it's killing me. So I'm gearing up for some intense discipline after vacation. I feel miserable and only gained a few pounds back.

Rox and Rifle...you two have a big advantage over some. You guys have time or in Rox's case a flexible schedule. That helps so much. I'm good during the two months I'm off in the summer but when school starts I will literally start my day at 5:30. I usually work over about an hour at school. When I leave my wife and I immediately (we work at same school) go to my business to tend to concerns. By the time I'm done it's usually after 6:00 and we immediately go walking to finish our steps. (Minimum 5 miles per day) by the time we're done it's pushing 7:30 and we eat out or go home and cook. If it's a lifting day I still have that to do. I have power rack and weights in garage so it's convenient. But sometimes I'm lifting at 10:00 at night. So it's a tight schedule that really eats the day.

Time is a big factor for working out.
 
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I can echo what Riflearm is saying, because it works best for me as well. When the weather warms up, I get back into running pretty heavily. I'm running about 4 miles/4-5 times per week right now. I always run in the morning on an empty stomach and I always see the best results that way.

I'm also lifting weights regularly again for the first time in a long time. I'm about a month into it and I can see a difference already. I'm down about 15 lbs and I am starting to see a revival of the strength I once had. Feels good.
 
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