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Zelensky coming to beg for more money

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We will bend over and just give them more billions of dollars.

What what they are covering up foe the Bidens over there?
 
The number one priority is Ukraine?! Not inflation, energy prices, taxes, infrastructure? But Ukraine?!

The right is just like the left, only without the drag shows.

The US is on track to give Ukraine twice what Europe is donating to this effort.
 
The US this year will have donated more money (just the US, not the entire world) to Ukraine than the yearly military budget of Russia.

At minimum there should be oversight of where that money is going, but that was shot down when Rand Paul proposed it.
Apparently he's coming here to tell us we haven't given him enough money. Once a comedian, always a comedian.
 
Apparently he's coming here to tell us we haven't given him enough money. Once a comedian, always a comedian.

I mean I'd be doing it too if I were him.

But at some point as the funders of the war, we should be demanding over sight and a more intensive consideration of a path to a resolution.
 
Save $$, use American troops!
Again, tell me why we should put American boots on the ground in Ukraine.

Interested as a parent of an infantry paratrooper. Tell me why they should go into Ukraine to fight the Russians.
 
Again, tell me why we should put American boots on the ground in Ukraine.

Interested as a parent of an infantry paratrooper. Tell me why they should go into Ukraine to fight the Russians.
Because it will stop. No way Putin's subordinates are going to start WW3 for Putin's crazy ambitions. Seems like they are already disgruntled. A possible conflict with NATO will be the last straw. They will take action to remove Vladimir.
 
Because it will stop. No way Putin's subordinates are going to start WW3 for Putin's crazy ambitions. Seems like they are already disgruntled. A possible conflict with NATO will be the last straw. They will take action to remove Vladimir.
You really believe we should put American boots on the ground into Ukraine?

And, fight the Russians?
 
You really believe we should put American boots on the ground into Ukraine?

And, fight the Russians?
Wouldn't be much of a fight. Didn't you read what I posted? Putin's generals would never allow it. They would g et a rid of Vlad before it actually came to that.
 
Wouldn't be much of a fight. Didn't you read what I posted? Putin's generals would never allow it. They would g et a rid of Vlad before it actually came to that.
Pretty flippant response in regards to a country with a massive nuclear arsenal. How sure are you this plays out that way? Is 90% sure “close enough?”

That Russian/Ukraine or Russia vs. Nato expansion history goes way back beyond Putin. Putin is no good actor, but it's fantasy land to think if he goes then this all is solved.

 
Zelensky also says 50 billion more is not enough.

Putting US boots in Ukraine is absurd
 
What is the end game?

Best case you get back Eastern Ukraine. Russia not giving up Crimea (they got that under Obama).

Why are we not pushing possible peace options? I swear it seems like an after thought.
The think tanks in DC believe we can make UKRAINE a great Nato power. Also thinking they can take Russia out for some reason.

They want a war.
 
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We give this guy billions and billions and he can't even dress up to go before Congress.
 
I mean I'd be doing it too if I were him.

But at some point as the funders of the war, we should be demanding over sight and a more intensive consideration of a path to a resolution.
Just ask Hunter. He'll tell us how much of it he has received.
 
Pretty flippant response in regards to a country with a massive nuclear arsenal. How sure are you this plays out that way? Is 90% sure “close enough?”

That Russian/Ukraine or Russia vs. Nato expansion history goes way back beyond Putin. Putin is no good actor, but it's fantasy land to think if he goes then this all is solved.

Think about this. The guy screws up so bad that Biden had to come in and clean it up
 
Think about this. The guy screws up so bad that Biden had to come in and clean it up

He wants vengeance. I get it. I probably would too.

But giving back Crimea (which I believe he's said needs to happen) will only prolong the war. Russia will fire a nuke before they give Crimea back.
 
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Thinking Zelensky and his whole show in front of the clapping seals of our congress being yet another example of our unserious foreign policy doesn’t make one "Pro-Russia" or "Pro-Putin". I lived through "if you're not for us, you're against us" years. Fool/money/parted, etc...
Exactly.

No room for nuance. Any stance to the opposite direction of “just give Ukraine what they ask for with no oversight” is blasted as “Pro Putin” and shut down.
 
There’s this weird coordinated effort to paint anyone critical of the Ukraine situation as pro-Putin or somehow anti-American (even though we don’t have boots on the ground.)
The neocons & liberals are walking in lockstep now
 
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