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No way in hell he would play QB at LSU or NC State. He doesn’t have the arm talent or decision making skills for that level.
As Huff would say: (high pitch) BUT! Having seen his mobility, perhaps Wolfie would place him in the slot or wide out…..
Agree. This guy is simply not a I-A level QB. He might land on the bench at the very bottom of the division, but he would be better suited in I-AA or D2, if he wants to play. If he really just wants an education, then he can carry the clipboard somewhere and should look for that.
I could see Fancher doing well in the right situation. I know he was not very good for us, but I do believe alot of it was coaching...
Schools like that can afford to pay for a seasoned, lower-tier quarterback with a decent record and multiple starts to act as a backup in case of injuries or other unforeseen circumstances. Kid has a weak arm, but he's not nearly as bad as he's been made out to be. With decent coaching and the right system (we have neither), he's smart and athletic and could do a fine job for a well-coached program school. Hell, they probably have a S&C guy that can actually help him increase and maximize his arm strength.
He would get broken in half in the SEC and his arm is too weak. But, stranger things have happened.
Awesome how some can claim he is not a division 1 qb. Even as he has proven he is here the past two years and has parlayed that production into not one but two P5 visits.
Some assume he is visiting as a QB, I don’t share that assumption.
You have no idea if he's even being considered for QB. He's an athlete. There's no denying that, but he's not the complete package as a starting QB, at least not at the moment.
He is not playing another position. What would it be? And why would an SEC team consider a qb to play a different position when they can get the best of the best that already play it.
Maybe. Just maybe. You anti Fancher guys were wrong…….. again!!!!
So they're curious and want to look at him. Let me know when he's starting games at LSU.
Also like others you don't know what position they want him for.
Aaron you too can go visit a sec school. It doesn't mean you're going to sign on the dotted line
Or we've watched is games.
Teams convert QBs all the time. Chip Kelly used to recruit extra QBs and move them to DB because he thought it gave them an edge on reading the QB.
Chuck Heater also discussed it because the QB is usually one of the better athletes on a team.
Yeah, watched plenty of Fancher’s play as quarterback while he was with Marshall. He’s not that talented at the position. Damn good ATHLETE. Just not a great quarterback.
Ol Coach Perkins is once again letting his kelly green sunshine pumping cloud his vision. Clearly Marshall only recruits the best and brightest.
If I’m not mistaken, Pat White was recruited by an SEC school or two to play DB or WR.
Ol Coach Perkins is once again letting his kelly green sunshine pumping cloud his vision. Clearly Marshall only recruits the best and brightest.
If I’m not mistaken, Pat White was recruited by an SEC school or two to play DB or WR.
Fancher was good enough to lead Marshall to a 9-4 season, wins over Notre Dame, Virginia Tech, App State, JMU, and a bowl win. He was dared to almost single-handedly beat NC State, and he almost did by throwing for over 300 yards and accounting for four TDs.
Yet the morons on here say he’s not an FBS QB.
Yet the morons on here say he’s not an FBS QB.
He's got talent. He hasn't been coached at the position, or very little, since he's been here. Best of luck to Cam.
I don't recall Fancher taking a single snap against Notre Dame.
That was the Italian guy.
Carried the whole team on his back to get us the W.
Maybe but he didn't lead us to victory over notre dame like you claimed
Yes, he is an FBS QB. As a matter of fact he was the 78th most efficient one out of the 109 with enough snaps to make the rankings. Of the 23 QBs that had double digit interceptions he is only one of two that had a TD/INT ratio of 1:1 or worse.
Nice guy, good athlete, but he didn’t show anything that would indicate he would have any success against SEC defenses on a weekly basis. A single good game against NCST when they were basically conceding the pass if you could throw it before they sacked you doesn’t mean much. As a matter of fact, Cam threw for 300 yards 4 times. We lost all 4 of those games. The way to beat Marshall was to let him throw. Not a good thing when trying to support his ability and effectiveness.
You keep using this same argument, and for some reason, everybody has ignored what you're missing.
A QB is far more than just passing statistics. A QB gets an offense in the right play, assigns the right blocking scheme, manages the offense, and an obvious one, can be just as important with his legs than his arm. With the offensive line Marshall had, can you imagine a QB who couldn't use his legs to get out of trouble. Did you see what happened when Marshall had a QB who was less mobile?
Was Fancher a great QB this year? No. Did he make immense improvements from year one to year two? Yes. Was he a solid QB for a G5 program? Yes. Could Marshall win a lot of games with Fancher if they had a good defense? Yes.
Marshall 26-21 Notre Dame (Sep 10, 2022) Box Score - ESPN
Box score for the Marshall Thundering Herd vs. Notre Dame Fighting Irish NCAAF game from September 10, 2022 on ESPN. Includes all passing, rushing and receiving stats.
Fancher had nothing to do with the Notre Dame win. He took a couple of snaps and was ineffective in those. I think you overstate his importance in most other wins...he had a part...a small part in most of these, though Ali and Laborn and defense were the difference makers. He had a good game against NC State. Nothing but love for Cam. Hope he finds success.
1st & 10 at ND 11
(5:20 - 3rd) Cam Fancher run for 7 yds to the NDame 43rd & 6 at ND 7
(4:18 - 3rd) Cam Fancher run for 4 yds to the NDame 3- Then we kicked a FG
(6:28 - 4th) Cam Fancher run for 1 yd to the NDame 5
1st & Goal at ND 6- ……and that was it.
Please tell me where you saw these immense improvements.
His net rushing yards and per carry average dropped. About 200 less yards and two less ypc. His ypa only increased to 6.9 from 6.6 even though his completion percentage went up from 55 to 65. His ypc actually dropped by a yard. His efficiency rating only increased from 120 to 128 and his TD/INT ratio dropped from 1.67/1 to 1/1. And we dropped from 77th to 119th in 3rd down conversion percentage.
Overall we produced less offense, less points and, most importantly, less wins than last year. So I need help seeing that “immense” improvement.
Sure.
He went from a pass efficiency number of 120 to 129. How big of a jump is that? If he makes the same strides next year, he would have the same rating as these QBs:
Austin Reed (WKU): 31 TDs, 11 INTs, 3340 yards
Drew Allar (PSU): 23 TDs, 1 INT, 2336 yards
As bad as so many of you claim him to be, if he makes the same improvement next year that he made this year, he would be on par with those QBs . . . think you all would like those numbers from a QB? Of course you would. So if he is as bad as you say, and if there is a big difference between where he is now and those two QBs above, it means he made a huge improvement from last year since the difference is the same.
Marshall had a far worse defense, a far worse offensive line, the same RBs but with less success from them, and worse WRs. And you claim that since Marshall had fewer wins knowing that, it means Fancher didn't improve? That makes little sense.
So it’s ALL on coaching for failure to recruit and develop at those positions? Would that failure fall on the head coach?
So you said you saw “immense” improvement and your proof is:
1. A 7.5% increase in efficiency.
2. Speculation that if he has back to back years of “immense” improvement he can make the jump to barely cracking the top half of QBs in efficiency rating, and
3. Saying the rest of the team wasn t good.
The reason I included the last part was because you said he was better at getting us in the right play, so I pointed out that your claim didn’t lead to improvement in 3rd down success, scoring or winning, so were those decisions really better?
At best you mistakenly used the word immense when slight or marginal would have been much more accurate.
1. A 7.5% increase in efficiency.
2. Speculation that if he has back to back years of “immense” improvement he can make the jump to barely cracking the top half of QBs in efficiency rating, and
3. Saying the rest of the team wasn t good.
The reason I included the last part was because you said he was better at getting us in the right play, so I pointed out that your claim didn’t lead to improvement in 3rd down success, scoring or winning, so were those decisions really better?
At best you mistakenly used the word immense when slight or marginal would have been much more accurate.
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