The funny thing was, when he called back, he said the reason for the closure was "student safety." Why is that the reason? Was there a threat against the school? Could we have expected an active shooter? He jumped the gun in a big way...obviously.
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No it’s simply a student teacher ratio. If half the teachers still were out the inmates would run the asylum
This is pretty much it, but for the most part the only people available for supervision would be the principals. They have been at the schools every day during the strike. The other issue is the bus drivers and cooks. There is no one to bring them to school or feed them if they got there on their own. In my county not a single teacher voted to return if this thing doesn't pass the senate. From what I'm hearing from teachers in other counties is pretty much the same thing.
Also, as far as the threat of violence, I have been to the capitol every single day of the strike. It can get loud and the crowds have been large. But this thing is very peaceful. I haven't witnessed a single incident that even hints at violence. This has been a very peaceful assembly and hopefully it remains that way.
These are the days of our lives. Soap Opera. These are teachers? Gotta love WV. Keep up the good work.
GK, I mean this sincerely. I am not a real fan of the big fat governor. But, I think he and the attorney general up there have been pretty patient. At some point, that patience is going to run out and the state is going to have to get back to business. He honestly is more patient than I would be at this point.
And that's the attitude that shows me you're not in it for the kids. It's all about you. The bad part is you guys have legit concerns but walking out of your jobs and leaving kids high and dry doesn't win over any sympathy
Ok, but at some point the schools have to open back up, regardless. And, are the teachers even on a legal walkout?
Your anger is being directed at me. The best way to handle an angry person is to let them know that their anger doesn't bother them. And it doesn't.
It takes the Nadia Comaneci of mental gymnastics to believe that a person can't both stand up for their principles AND care about the kids they teach.
What you're saying doesn't make sense. He made a promise three days ago that was immediately disputed by senate leadership. Patient? If we went back to school and the senate killed the issue, you'd be the first one on here saying that the teachers gave in too quickly and didn't have the guts to stand by their principles.
Does it hurt the kids to be away from school on the weekends? How about summers off? Christmas vacation? You're a moron.
What’s your suggestion if they don’t come back today? Are you going to replace all of them overnight. Good luck with that.
Ok, let's say the file suit. You all lose and they start fining the union. You say it would bankrupt it 8 days(if I remember correctly). Your ranks will break and some teachers will run back and the union could be at risk of even being decimated. At some point, public perception will shift as people get tired of it. Again, at some point, they are going to open those schools back up.
Scenario, they file suit. Your side loses. They start fining $500 per teacher per day( I think were your estimates). In a week the union is out of money. Union is basically defunct. Want to keep going?
GK, I'll tell you what I told the local teachers here in Wayne County....I've never been more proud of WV teachers than the last few days for standing up for themselves. The students should see that sometimes it's necessary to take a stand.
There's no sense in having a union if you can't stand up for yourself. I hope the teachers stay strong, and if they start fining the union I hope the cost of the fines are doubled in the wage increase demands.
I'd love to see your employer raise your cost of insurance and decrease your pay substantially.
Are you suggesting we return to work to protect the union? That's a different take.
I don't think there's a snowball chance of enforcement even if injunctions are issued. But let's say they are enforced. Bring it is all I can say to that. Again...you'd be the first person spiking the ball if we gave in.
shut up, greed, you're making me agree with you.
my favorite is the parents raising hell because little johnny is missing all these days of school. translation: "get schools back in session so i can get the little bastard out of my hair and go back to sitting on my fat ass eating bonbons and watching days of our lives."
where the hell is all of this faux outrage when we have a bad winter with 10 or 15 snow days?
Not really. I am an outsider now and have no reason to spike a ball. But, I do frankly, find the whole situation embarrassing for my home state. I have no real dog in the fight. I do see legitimate concerns on both sides. The polticians there(and many other places) are idiots and I don't condone teachers walking out typically. I think insurance is a mess everywhere and most everyone is paying more. To never expect to pay more is ludicrous. Teachers do deserve more money.
Now think of this, worse case scenario and I think of stuff like this. Yes, the state may want it to drag out and yes going back work could perhaps protect the union. How, you ask?
The state lets itn drag on in an attempt to weaken or even destroy the teachers union. How? Public perception will wear down. People will get tired of it. Then, they file an injunction and you are ordered back to work. That either divides the members and it breaks apart or maybe you stand strong. Let's say the teachers still don't go back to work. The union is fined and financially inept after a week or so. Here is where it gets sticky. They have no power to defend you. You are again ordered back to work. The ranks bust up more and support goes down. Those who are left walking out are summarily dismissed and have to reapply for a job.
Don't think for a minute that a man like Justice might not be thinking of that. He might be thinking hell, if this goes on I will just try to destroy the teachers union while I am it. Who knows if he even cares about running again. He will always be a billionaire regardless.
At some point, WV is going back to school. One way or the other. Is that an evil thought of mine? Yes, it is. But, I almost guarantee that is being discussed. They could essentially weaken or destroy the union within two weeks, possibly. I guarantee the union has thought of that. Why does anyone even have to join the union anymore? You are a right to work state now, correct?
These are the days of our lives. Soap Opera. These are teachers? Gotta love WV. Keep up the good work.
This has to be fake...no way someone got 80's checkerboard Vans shoes and a BROWN VW WAGON in the same photo. That's just too much cool to be in the same place at the same time.
Brown cars are awesome. A brown wagon? Righteous.
Maybe it's because I'm close to this issue, but I'm not sure you totally understand how this is being played out. If you substitutey Mitch Carmichael for Jim Justice in your post I think you'd be pretty close to the politics. When Justice offered the 5% I believe he was truly trying to make this thing end.
GK, I found this. I told you so
Sen. John Unger, a Martinsburg Democrat, said it was the Senate's fault the walkout would continue Friday. He'd heard rumblings that opponents of the settlement were delaying to create a divide and turn parents against teachers. "I hope that's not the intention," he said.
Sen. John Unger, a Martinsburg Democrat, said it was the Senate's fault the walkout would continue Friday. He'd heard rumblings that opponents of the settlement were delaying to create a divide and turn parents against teachers. "I hope that's not the intention," he said.
Wagons carry just as much crap as SUV's but handle MUCH better. Brown is a great color, not flashy but not a gray-tone like 90% of today's cars.
And some brown wagons can blow your doors off....
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And yeah, that's a factory Ford wagon with a 429 Cobra jet.
https://www.hemmings.com/magazine/m...Mullet---1971-Ford-Torino-Squire/3689701.html
what a waste of an awesome engine. belongs in this:
my uncle has one just like the pic above. badass. friend had an '07 GT500 with some aftermark blower on it making 750 hp. had the two of them head to head at a car show a couple times. talk about a photo-op.
the '07 had the same color scheme.
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Lord herdman...Carmichael is Senate President. Read what I wrote. I said you were correct if you traded the names of Justice with Carmichael. I mean really...you're telling me so?
Nope. Read the article. Dude wanted something to tow his boat. He optioned it perfectly to be both a powerful tow vehicle AND to look sporty. Dude studied the option sheet like a boss lol.
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