A True American Hero

[Raoul Duke MU]

Depends on what 'State' is doing the promoting and what 'religion' is being promoted.

The hell it does.

" The Religion then of every man must be left to the conviction and conscience of every man; and it is the right of every man to exercise it as these may dictate. This right is in its nature an unalienable right. It is unalienable; because the opinions of men, depending only on the evidence contemplated by their own minds, cannot follow the dictates of other men....If Religion be not within [the] cognizance of Civil Government, how can its legal establishment be said to be necessary to civil Government? What influence in fact have ecclesiastical establishments had on Civil Society? In some instances they have been seen to erect a spiritual tyranny on the ruins of Civil authority; in many instances they have been seen upholding the thrones of political tyranny; in no instance have they been seen the guardians of the liberties of the people."

James Madison, Memorial and Remonstrance Against Religious Assessments

 

[i am herdman]

Would you be fine if a Muslim teacher read the Quran everyday to his? A class that your child was in?

Worst is with Christians is they might pray for you or offend you with some preaching. Muslims might cut your head off and kills kids who read books.

 

[Y.A.G Si Ye Nots]

are you just making this up as you go? i'm not fine with any of that.

Umm, many Christian groups actively fight against gay rights. Many Christian groups (numerous white supremacist groups claim Christianity) fight against blacks.

I am not making this up as a I go. The point is that every major religion has some fvcked up, discriminatory shit that goes along with it. Those groups should not be housed in a public school thanks to tax payer money. That includes students wanting somewhere to perpetuate those beliefs.

Any person should be able to voice their discriminatory opinions. They should not be allowed to use tax payer money in doing so.

 

[Y.A.G Si Ye Nots]

My 5th Grade teacher was also a Baptist preacher. He read from the Bible every day before class started and we recited the 23rd Psalm fairly regularly. No one even batted an eye at it.

Not only is that wrong, but it explains why you are as you are (and that isn't a compliment).

 

[Y.A.G Si Ye Nots]

damn rifle needs to walk away. He has been owned.

I think you don't understand what "owned" means.

 

[19MU88]

Umm, many Christian groups actively fight against gay rights. Many Christian groups (numerous white supremacist groups claim Christianity) fight against blacks.

I am not making this up as a I go. The point is that every major religion has some fvcked up, discriminatory shit that goes along with it. Those groups should not be housed in a public school thanks to tax payer money. That includes students wanting somewhere to perpetuate those beliefs.

Any person should be able to voice their discriminatory opinions. They should not be allowed to use tax payer money in doing so.

it sounds like to me you discriminate based on religious beliefs.

 

[countryroads89]

My 5th Grade teacher was also a Baptist preacher. He read from the Bible every day before class started and we recited the 23rd Psalm fairly regularly. No one even batted an eye at it.

Thanks for proving Rifle’s point.

 

[countryroads89]

Umm, many Christian groups actively fight against gay rights. Many Christian groups (numerous white supremacist groups claim Christianity) fight against blacks.

I am not making this up as a I go. The point is that every major religion has some fvcked up, discriminatory shit that goes along with it. Those groups should not be housed in a public school thanks to tax payer money. That includes students wanting somewhere to perpetuate those beliefs.

Any person should be able to voice their discriminatory opinions. They should not be allowed to use tax payer money in doing so.

Didn’t some woman in Kentucky violate the law, by not upholding the law, because she thought her religion trumped (pun intended) the laws?

 

[C.K. Ocsevol-Evad]

it sounds like to me you discriminate based on religious beliefs.

A little common sense, please.

If nobody is allowed to hold meetings for groups that discriminate, how is it discriminating based on religious belief?

It’s an all or nothing type of thing. Nothing is far easier and doesn’t allow the discrimination.

 

[19MU88]

a little common sense, please.

you seem to imply all religious groups discriminate. I don't think that's the case. in fact, i'd say it's the minority of Christian groups fighting against gay rights, the rest just believe it's wrong and go about their business. and lumping in some neo Nazis because they claim to be Christian....er uh o.k. you aren't biased.

 

[Y.A.G Si Ye Nots]

a little common sense, please.

you seem to imply all religious groups discriminate. I don't think that's the case. in fact, i'd say it's the minority of Christian groups fighting against gay rights, the rest just believe it's wrong and go about their business. and lumping in some neo Nazis because they claim to be Christian....er uh o.k. you aren't biased.

The majority of all major religions do discriminate. That's not an opinion. I'm not implying it; I'm directly fvcking stating it.

 

[19MU88]

well, you began your point with "Christians"....I'm thinking you are mistaken.

 

[WV-FAN]

i don't want any religion discussed in my child's classroom for anything other than historical purposes. if you're going to let the school system promote jehovers witness by allowing them to come in, setup tables, and hand out bibles, be ready to allow muslims in to setup shop and pass out the koran . . . then, be even more ready to explain why little johnny decided to become an islamic terrorist.

 

[i am herdman]

I think you don't understand what "owned" means.

I think I do. And, you were owned.

 

[C.K. Ocsevol-Evad]

well, you began your point with "Christians"....I'm thinking you are mistaken.

Are you truly this dumb? We were talking about Christianity, hence why I started talking about Christians.

Then, to make the point about all religions discriminating, I made it a point to mention exactly that.

God damn. I spend more time on here explaining things to morons who can’t follow a basic fvcking conversation than I do getting to call you “morons.”

I think I do. And, you were owned.

His comment made no sense. Certain radical Muslims want to kill atheists? No shit. How is that in any way enlightening or “owning” somebody?

See my last paragraph above to 1988.

 

[19MU88]

Are you truly this dumb? We were talking about Christianity, hence why I started talking about Christians.

Then, to make the point about all religions discriminating, I made it a point to mention exactly that.

God damn. I spend more time on here explaining things to morons who can’t follow a basic fvcking conversation than I do getting to call you “morons.”



His comment made no sense. Certain radical Muslims want to kill atheists? No shit. How is that in any way enlightening or “owning” somebody?

See my last paragraph above to 1988.

uh oh. someone is mad. you were talking about discriminating Christians and stated "many Christian groups" and then you changed your tune.

I wish you were just half as smart as you think you are Spellchecker.

 

[sistersville]

Our little church with75 members welcome anyone. We have a few people who's kids said they were gay. We all watched them grow up from babies to graduating high school. I love those kids. When 2 came out it didnt change our love for them. I would be lying if I didnt say we worry more for them than the straight kids. We have fellowship where every body gets up and just shake hands and alot of hugs. I love them all. We do good looking after each other so discriminating against others is something we couldnt tolerate.vWish you could come with me to church rifle. I consider you my friend from new york.