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MU PRESS RELEASE Beer Sales Approved.....

Why don't they just do this.

You have the whole area that is covered by the suites and pressbox structure. All you have to do to close that area is to install a nice looking fencing from the ground up to the white, steel cross support beams. Doing this would be less than $50,000 and would double the concourse area on the west side of the stadium. Just pull up a street view of the west side of the stadium and you'll see what I'm talking about.

It would, of course, look better if it were bricked in, but that can always be done later. Within this area you could be porta toilets, 8-10 on each side. I don't think bathroom capacity is really the issue though, just a strawman. The only extra bathrooms picked up in the pass out is the porta toilets in the lot.

because that adds only minimal space and doesn't address the east side or end zone?

that's the thing, hamrick's m.o. when it comes to facilities has been to not half-ass it like that, he works to do things right the first time.
 
it's more of a decision that at this time it isn't feasible to sell beer stadium-wide, but carry on with your normal irrational rant...

Have you ever been in the stadium?

The two sides are identical, under the stands, with the exception that the chairback side has LESS space beacuse of the security area for the luxury box elevators.

Discussions of the difficulty of closing the stadium would be relevant. If they were closing the stadium. Which they are not.

No reason they could not sell beer stadium wide.
 
So we are saying our bathroom facilities couldn't handle the beer crowd? I've never seen people leave the stadium to take a piss at their tailgates.
 
You are underestimating the size of the area covered by the suites. The distance from the outer edge of the structure to the current fence is as wide as the current concourse and it is nearly 100 yards long. It would increase the concourse area by about 75% on the west side. You could make a "beer garden" area on the east side by creating a fenced in area outside the current concourse area at the south endzone where the curvature of the stadium creates a wider strip of vacant land and also bring porta toilets into that area, if needed. Again, that's a quick and easy fix that doesn't cost much.
 
You are underestimating the size of the area covered by the suites. The distance from the outer edge of the structure to the current fence is as wide as the current concourse and it is nearly 100 yards long. It would increase the concourse area by about 75% on the west side.

it's runs from about 15 to 15, so about 70 yards, not 100. also, there's a huge section in the middle that can't be used as an open concourse area because that's how you get up to the suites. it would increase the concourse size, but that increase would be minimal.

hamrick isn't after quick and easy fixes...the crap bleachers in the end zone are a product of a quick and easy fix. he does things right the first time.
 
No, the suites/pressbox extends from the top middle of section 122 to the top middle of section 104. It's almost exactly 100 yards. At the widest point, the covered area outside of the current fence is almost 40 feet wide, actually wider than the current concourse. Keep in mind that the seating section are like a circle in that the top is further away from the 50 yard line than the bottom. Look at any overhead picture of the stadium and you will see.
 
No, the suites/pressbox extends from the top middle of section 122 to the top middle of section 104. It's almost exactly 100 yards. At the widest point, the covered area outside of the current fence is almost 40 feet wide, actually wider than the current concourse. Keep in mind that the seating section are like a circle in that the top is further away from the 50 yard line than the bottom. Look at any overhead picture of the stadium and you will see.

not 100 yards. also, it's widest point wouldn't be available for public concourse, it's reserved for suite/press box access.

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and to add, this photo shows there are several columns with large concrete slabs taking up space in the area you're talking about.

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lay a straight edge on your computer screen and line it up on the 5 yard line on each end of the field and you will see that it corresponds to the corners of the sky boxes, so it's 90 yards long. Not quite 100 that I was eyeballing, but much more than the 70 you claimed.

So there's columns, big deal. You notice that full size pickup parked under there. It's about 20 feet long, so my 40 foot wide estimate appears to be on the too conservative side of things. it may be 55 feet wide toward the ends.
 
lay a straight edge on your computer screen and line it up on the 5 yard line on each end of the field and you will see that it corresponds to the corners of the sky boxes, so it's 90 yards long. Not quite 100 that I was eyeballing, but much more than the 70 you claimed.

So there's columns, big deal. You notice that full size pickup parked under there. It's about 20 feet long, so my 40 foot wide estimate appears to be on the too conservative side of things. it may be 55 feet wide toward the ends.

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it's the 10. but the stars on both ends open up to public space now, i wonder if the fire marshal would allow them to open up into a concourse? if not, that'd put the end of the new area about the 15 yard lines.

if the fire marshall would allow, the ends would be actually more narrow because the space taken up by the stairwells. also, the 20 foot scale in the bottom right, makes the max width look to be bout 50 feet wide.

again, it's definitely more space, but it's not good space. there's a decent sized chunk that would be not possible to be part of the concourse because of the suites elevator area, there are more than a dozen 2 or 3 foot by 2 or 3 foot concrete pillars that would take up space, etc.

but anyway, this gets back to why expanding our concourses is a costly experience. you'd have to do something about all these issues to expand on the west side, on the east side you have the pillars supporting the stadium, but there are also two large power stations for the east side lights right outside the fence that'd probably have to be re-located.
 
where do I start, your imposed line is not parallel to the ten yard line, it's lined up inside the narrowest width of the sky box structure. if you line up a real parellel line from the 5 yard line it hits about 60% back on the end wall of the structure. It almost looks like you tried to intentionally fudge that line as much as you could.

You would build the outer fence even with the backwall of the stairwells, so you only lose the footprint of the tower. you don't need the large caged in area to exist around the elevator entrances, you could use a temporary barricade that would be removed at the start of the game and open that whole area back up during the game.

One day when I have time I will go over and measure everything and sketch out a plan and give it Hamrick. I'll finally have a use for that Drafting and Design major I completed almost 30 years ago.
 
Have they said it isn't feasible? As I said above, if the logistics aren't in place for this season that is fine. Say so. No problem. If you just want to "test" it on the chairbacks that's dumb. You will not get a true feeling for this. Like it or not, a lot of the chair back clientele are in a different world than the majority of the stadium. You won't get an accurate sales count or estimation on problem drunks. So why do it this way?


I agree totally. I used to have chair back seats for several seasons. I grew tired of some aging folks screaming for us to sit down, don't cheer too loudly because it sends shock waves through my hearing aides, don't do that Thunder-Clap thing too often, I can't see the field while sitting down..... etc.

Beer sales in the selected Chair Back areas will not give them a true barometer of potential sales.

WOW...this Beer sales thing is really turning into a Pisser---For sure the ladies bathrooms are going to create longer lines!

Pass me another Beer Miss Bar Tender.......HerdZilla22 in Charlotte
 
where do I start, your imposed line is not parallel to the ten yard line, it's lined up inside the narrowest width of the sky box structure. if you line up a real parellel line from the 5 yard line it hits about 60% back on the end wall of the structure. It almost looks like you tried to intentionally fudge that line as much as you could.

You would build the outer fence even with the backwall of the stairwells, so you only lose the footprint of the tower. you don't need the large caged in area to exist around the elevator entrances, you could use a temporary barricade that would be removed at the start of the game and open that whole area back up during the game.

One day when I have time I will go over and measure everything and sketch out a plan and give it Hamrick. I'll finally have a use for that Drafting and Design major I completed almost 30 years ago.


After Donald Trump is elected President....he can practice building THAT WALL at The Joan before he moves on to Texas-Mexico. WOW this Beer Sales thing is going to be a "real PISSER" for ladies by adding to their long lines at the bathrooms.....


HerdZilla22 (in Charlotte)......Time for another Beer, my Lady
 
No one asked for your OPINION in Houston! The only good thing in Houston now====Coach MIKE Dantoni of the Rockets.....A MARSHALL GRADUATE.

Go blow a Cougar!

HerdZilla22 in Charlotte
dude you really are an AZZhole(thinking more like a cheap person - bet you don't even tip decently in a resteraunt). I express my opinion on a BBS for a school I support as best as I can, and don't even get a well thought out response. I visit this site almost daily(but only comment when I have an opinion), anyone here has the right to an opinion for any topic. You sound like one of those rabid left wingers that like to spout their own opinions as what is required, when those like me on the right agree that you have the right to your opinion even though we disagree with you. Politically the left has much less tolerance than most of us on the right. I would argue to the death (as most of our fantastic military personnel would- I am a veteran) of your right to expouse(sp) your opinion, most on the left would try to scream/shout me down for my opinion. this is a public BBS, my opinion matters as much as yours does.

As far as this topic, no you did not ask me for my opinion, but I gave it anyway. go blow your boyfriend
 
dude you really are an AZZhole(thinking more like a cheap person - bet you don't even tip decently in a resteraunt). I express my opinion on a BBS for a school I support as best as I can, and don't even get a well thought out response. I visit this site almost daily(but only comment when I have an opinion), anyone here has the right to an opinion for any topic. You sound like one of those rabid left wingers that like to spout their own opinions as what is required, when those like me on the right agree that you have the right to your opinion even though we disagree with you. Politically the left has much less tolerance than most of us on the right. I would argue to the death (as most of our fantastic military personnel would- I am a veteran) of your right to expouse(sp) your opinion, most on the left would try to scream/shout me down for my opinion. this is a public BBS, my opinion matters as much as yours does.

As far as this topic, no you did not ask me for my opinion, but I gave it anyway. go blow your boyfriend


Gary W. Sweeney......Marshall graduate (1969, MU Graduate School, 1970.....US Army (1970-73---SE Asia, Thailand & Viet Nam (1970).......Conservative Democrat.....FREE Thinker....I TIP ALWAYS 30-40% in restaurants....I helped start a credit card processing company in Charlotte about 5-years ago---so I know HOW IMPORTANT Tiping is ....I tip LARGE because I know how little the wait staff makes in restaurants (especially single Moms because of dead beat Dads)....STRAIGHT...never given blow jobs to anyone---don't plan on it.....Mr Bruce Jenner from Houston, Texas....houstonherdfan.

You see two can play the War of Words game.....

Have a fuc$ing nice day...

Gary Sweeney in Charlotte
 
sweeny is a complete tool, as we all know. just admit it, you are too cheap to have chairbacks and we are glad you aren't there.
 
sweeny is a complete tool, as we all know. just admit it, you are too cheap to have chairbacks and we are glad you aren't there.


19MU88...you know nothing about my financial situation (and my name (SweenEy) has THREE Es.....I have no clue where you live---I live in Southeast Charlotte....from my driveway to Marshall is a hard 5 1/2 hour drive each way. I average about $300/weekend to SUPPORT The Herd in football. I have 10 seats this season in the End Zone because of the SAVINGS. My ticket per seat for the Louisville game is less than $18 verses about $45 sideline. Guess what...I will be watching the same game as you!

I say I am a financial wizard! The savings I achieved allows me to be a 110% to the Big Green Foundation. "19MU88", Purchase a football program (if you are not too cheap).....you will find my name listed under the level of GIVING. I bet I give more than you to Marshall.


I had Chair backs for about three seasons...no big THRILL to sit there...especially when its COLD and in the SHADE. So to agree with you===I TOO AM GLAD I AM NOT SITTING (chair backs) there. This insures I am not near your stinking TOOL ass!

Your HERD DADDY===GARY SWEENEY (HerdZilla22) in Charlotte
 
I'm out of the country right now, when I return I'll dig up a program and let you know.

you are giving us way too much info, I don't need to know your financial situation to know anyone whining about the cost of a beer at a sporting event is cheap.
 
I'm out of the country right now, when I return I'll dig up a program and let you know.

you are giving us way too much info, I don't need to know your financial situation to know anyone whining about the cost of a beer at a sporting event is cheap.

Out of Country===ISSYS training...perhaps? Donald Trump wants to interview you when & if you return to America.

HerdZilla22 in Charlotte
 


GOOD ONE randomHerd......This is funny and I am ready to terminate this madness......

My stance has not changed.....I prefer halftime passouts.....I suppose my opposition to BEER SALES at sporting events is the inflated pricing....I don't purchase Beer at Carolina Panthers (NFL) games, Charlotte Knight (AAA Baseball), nor Charlotte Hornets (NBA) games. Why would I want to spend $8----$12 dollars for ONE BEER?

HerdZilla22 in Charlotte
 
Zilla, you make a very good point. If you don't like the price, do not purchase.


Just My point "Herd In The Plains." Thanks for your sound understanding. I express my view on inflated beer pricing in selected areas in The Joan and I am called "a cheap, non tipping bum"....."you don't want to HELP Marshall earn some extra revenue"...just among a few of the Hillary R. C barbs thrown my way!

Leave the HIGH Beer pricing to the "youngsters like my son"----he spends about $40 on beer at Panthers games. Probably one reason my Bank account is better than his--he he he he. I still support our halftime Pass Out Program...one of the very few remaining at College Stadiums---I may add. Plus...who wants to be wvu-like?

HerdZilla22 (Sweeney) in Charlotte
 
19MU88...you know nothing about my financial situation (and my name (SweenEy) has THREE Es.....I have no clue where you live---I live in Southeast Charlotte....from my driveway to Marshall is a hard 5 1/2 hour drive each way. I average about $300/weekend to SUPPORT The Herd in football. I have 10 seats this season in the End Zone because of the SAVINGS. My ticket per seat for the Louisville game is less than $18 verses about $45 sideline. Guess what...I will be watching the same game as you!

I say I am a financial wizard! The savings I achieved allows me to be a 110% to the Big Green Foundation. "19MU88", Purchase a football program (if you are not too cheap).....you will find my name listed under the level of GIVING. I bet I give more than you to Marshall.


I had Chair backs for about three seasons...no big THRILL to sit there...especially when its COLD and in the SHADE. So to agree with you===I TOO AM GLAD I AM NOT SITTING (chair backs) there. This insures I am not near your stinking TOOL ass!

Your HERD DADDY===GARY SWEENEY (HerdZilla22) in Charlotte
I checked. You are below me despite the fact you are an old turd and I am in my 40s. Unless you increased in past year you don't give enough for west lot. Are you free loading there ?
 
I checked. You are below me despite the fact you are an old turd and I am in my 40s. Unless you increased in past year you don't give enough for west lot. Are you free loading there ?

$200/month for whatever that gets me. FREE Parking beside the new Walgreens and everything else that you get without paying inflated pricing in the West Lot. Hell YES...I FREE LOAD in the West Parking Lot...have been since The Joan opened in the early 1990s' when you were in diapers & sucking your Mom's tits. If I knew who you are---most likely I have eaten & drank at your spot for FREE Too! he he he he

HerdZilla22 (Sweeney in Charlotte)
 
as a freshman I'll still have to sneak it in.. Airplane bottles of fireball baby..


"Been there & done that., I Herd dat" Be a Kool HERD & don't get caught."

In the good old days of the late 1960s' ...
our Kappa Alpha pledges carried coolers of Beer into Fairfield Stadium. Of course this was way before MADD, and the stricter drinking laws that were enacted. Probably a good thing.

HerdZilla22 in HOT HOT Charlotte (103 Saturday).
 
Nice attempt at humor Sweeny--except your math is horrible as I was a graduate in the 90s. The real point is never make an ass of yourself say you probably give more than someone else--especially with your low level of giving.

I look at it as being a supporter not a consumer so I don't shop parking cost. I'd donate it without the benefit of parking.

Speaking of diapers you are probably back in them now, huh?
 
Nice attempt at humor Sweeny--except your math is horrible as I was a graduate in the 90s. The real point is never make an ass of yourself say you probably give more than someone else--especially with your low level of giving.

I look at it as being a supporter not a consumer so I don't shop parking cost. I'd donate it without the benefit of parking.

Speaking of diapers you are probably back in them now, huh?

19MU88...you need a reading comprehension course....read my posts...NEVER have I said I give more $$$$ than you or anyone. I stated how much I give to MARSHALL & how much it costs me to follow The HERD.

I do not brag...I give because Marshall helped to mold me---when I needed help in my teens & early 20s' (1969 graduate---Page Pitt School of JRN) plus one year of graduate school...BEFORE serving my Country (US ARMY) in SE Asia.

I find HUMOR to be funny & settling. You may trying practicing some humor. You chose to park in the West Lot...I chose to park near by and PARTY with folks in the West Lot and other parking lots where I am welcomed. Who cares where one EARNS or PAYS to park? I park to BRING ON THE HERD.

Not in diapers today (as you so unkindly stated)...hopefully NEVER since I do celebrate a wonderful 69 years on Nov. 20. Hope you send me a nice, expensive gift (Like Captain Morgan or Coors Silver Bullets)---or I can pick MY GIFT up the first football game.

SWEENEY SweenEy....SweenEy...get your eyes examined too....3 Es

HerdZilla22 (SweenEy) in Charlotte
 
19MU88...you need a reading comprehension course....read my posts...NEVER have I said I give more $$$$ than you or anyone. I stated how much I give to MARSHALL & how much it costs me to follow The HERD.

HerdZilla22 (SweenEy) in Charlotte

from earlier post. really, are you senile and just forgot what you said or stupid?

I say I am a financial wizard! The savings I achieved allows me to be a 110% to the Big Green Foundation. "19MU88", Purchase a football program (if you are not too cheap).....you will find my name listed under the level of GIVING. I bet I give more than you to Marshall.
 
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from earlier post. really, are you senile and just forgot what you said or stupid?

I say I am a financial wizard! The savings I achieved allows me to be a 110% to the Big Green Foundation. "19MU88", Purchase a football program (if you are not too cheap).....you will find my name listed under the level of GIVING. I bet I give more than you to Marshall.

My Bad 19MU88....I did make that statement & I offer my apology....BUT.... I am not SENILE nor STUPID===YET?

HerdZilla22 in Charlotte preparing for a week in BIG TEXAS.......Spreading the HERD Word in all Lands....
 
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