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  • NCAA mid-major men’s basketball programs are getting fed up with the transfer portal.
    So, they are striking back.



    How?

    With the only means at their disposal. Instead of playing two or three “money games” against big-time schools from power conferences, the mid-majors are just saying no.

    Who can blame them? Under current transfer portal rules that basically consist of “here today, gone tomorrow,” the mid-majors have no recourse.

    So, they aren’t scheduling the money games, which the big schools have turned into a free tryout and evaluation of the mid-majors’ star players.








 
Good for them. I hate this transfer portal! And if the NCAA doesn't change it, the gap between the big boys and the regular schools will grow even larger!
Hey man that's alright. We'll get all the washouts that can't play for the P5s.😖
 
That's what they want, imho.
I'm to the point either put up or shut up. Either do a balanced 16 team playoff or let's just break away and the G5 do it's own thing. So tired of the "yea buts" with G5 conference champs. We heard the same thing with Utah and TCU in the early 00s about how they're a good story, but could never compete week in and week out with the "big boys".

Once everyone has equal access and the money is more even distributed then we'd have a model closer to Soccer where we just won a friggin natty.

However for some reason FBS football is the only level/division of football from high school to the NFL that doesn't have a true playoff system. It has nothing to do with anything other than greed and servicing the top 10-15 schools and honestly the FBS model only serves the top 5 or so. That's why it's always the same teams. If the other 50 some odd P5s would wake up and grow a pair they'd see they're getting screwed just as much as we are.

But wait....if we even attempted to fix things we wouldn't have the Lawnmower Bowl. Whatever would we do without a toy pirate chest full of Spencer's mardi gras beads.
 
I'm to the point either put up or shut up. Either do a balanced 16 team playoff or let's just break away and the G5 do it's own thing.
I struggle to understand how a Marshall fan (or any G5 fan for that matter) could be anything other than excited about this new CFP format. We literally have the same access to the playoff that the SEC champion does. Finish as one of the top six ranked conference champs and you’re in. It’s simple and beautiful.
 
I struggle to understand how a Marshall fan (or any G5 fan for that matter) could be anything other than excited about this new CFP format. We literally have the same access to the playoff that the SEC champion does. Finish as one of the top six ranked conference champs and you’re in. It’s simple and beautiful.
It's more simplistic than it was and is definitely an improvement, but it still doesn't remove the talking heads from determining who that G5 spot is going to because presumably all P5 champs will outrank the highest G5.

It's a step in the right direction for sure, but like in 2014 we're going to see agendas for that highest ranked G5. For Marshall to get the nod we're going to have to have an absolute magical season like running the table in 2022 and being Notre Dame's only loss to keep the usual mental gymnastics and transitive property stuff from creeping in.

Also for point of order we do not have the same access the SEC has because the SEC champ is in regardless. Once again there is in reality one spot for all G5s to fight over.

It's great that we're even getting that spot, but we need to recognize there's still some shenanigans going on.

I also wonder what happens when a G5 does the improbable and either wins it all or makes it to the title game. How quickly the powers that be meddle again just like they did when Boise, Utah, and TCU were becoming constants in the BCS bowls and the old guard blue bloods started clutching their pearls and tried so hard to get the four super conferences of 16 teams with a 4 team playoff created.

It will happen. Once access is given the better G5s will start to make noise and upset the apple cart.
 
I struggle to understand how a Marshall fan (or any G5 fan for that matter) could be anything other than excited about this new CFP format. We literally have the same access to the playoff that the SEC champion does. Finish as one of the top six ranked conference champs and you’re in. It’s simple and beautiful.
2014 taught me that a 30-point loss to Ole Miss is better than unbeaten through 11 games.
 
I struggle to understand how a Marshall fan (or any G5 fan for that matter) could be anything other than excited about this new CFP format. We literally have the same access to the playoff that the SEC champion does. Finish as one of the top six ranked conference champs and you’re in. It’s simple and beautiful.
Kind of status quo for the G5. One team was given a token spot before, just not in the playoffs. Now any G5 team has several other conferences to battle it out for while the P5 champs have guaranteed spots no matter what. We could potentially run the table and miss out if someone like a Cincy did the same. Expanded playoffs are better, but the little guy will end up with the short straw almost every year.
 
Kind of status quo for the G5. One team was given a token spot before, just not in the playoffs. Now any G5 team has several other conferences to battle it out for while the P5 champs have guaranteed spots no matter what. We could potentially run the table and miss out if someone like a Cincy did the same. Expanded playoffs are better, but the little guy will end up with the short straw almost every year.
Did you read the proposal? No conference has a guaranteed spot.
 
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Chris, you have to have faith in the committee that ranks the teams to have faith in the proposal being good for the Marshall. I don’t.
 
We heard the same thing with Utah and TCU in the early 00s about how they're a good story, but could never compete week in and week out with the "big boys".

Once everyone has equal access and the money is more even distributed then we'd have a model closer to Soccer where we just won a friggin natty.
You first admit and argue that those programs with money have a big advantage to building the best teams.

It's more simplistic than it was and is definitely an improvement, but it still doesn't remove the talking heads from determining who that G5 spot is going to because presumably all P5 champs will outrank the highest G5.

Also for point of order we do not have the same access the SEC has because the SEC champ is in regardless. Once again there is in reality one spot for all G5s to fight over.
But then you argue that it's not fair that the SEC champ - a conference with more money than anyone - will get in over a G5 and that most P5 champs will get in over a G5 champ since the P5s have more money.

So if you acknowledge and argue that money has a huge impact on the success of a program, what's your problem with those programs that have a lot more money getting a disproportionate number of teams in the playoff? It's not a conspiracy of the "talking heads." It's simply the fact that more money leads to a much better chance of having a great program, thus great results on the field, thus a playoff chance.
 
How much pressure can smaller conferences apply to get this transfer rule changed? I'm sure there are more tools in the bag.
 
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