Bowl projections – Week 10

[RhinoD]

Always interesting to see what some of the prognosticators come up with...

ESPN -
Schlabach – Marshall vs. App State in New Orleans
Bonagura – Marshall vs. Coastal Carolina in Myrtle Beach
* ESPN has Cincy as the G5 rep to the NY6 games and BYU as an at-large pick

CBS Sports -
Palm – Marshall vs. Missouri in Birmingham (Missouri looks likely to finish 3-5)

Sporting News -
Bender - Marshall vs. SMU in Dallas

CFN -
Marshall vs. Coastal Carolina in New Orleans

247 Sports -
Marshall vs. Tennessee in Birmingham (Tennessee also looks likely to finish 3-5)

 

[TwolfHerdfan]

Take Mizzou, Tenn. or SMU. Those would be good games. The MB Bowl seems like it would hardly be a reward for a good season. jmo

 

[ohio herd]

any of those games minus app state. We already played them this year.

 

[RhinoD]

A couple of points worth noting... I highly doubt we end up in a rematch with App. That seems like ESPN just being lazy... I have seen/heard growing buzz that if Marshall and Coastal win out they will likely play each other (assuming Cincy gets the G5 spot). If that happens, I hope its in New Orleans and not on Coastal's home field in Myrtle Beach.

 

[herdfan429]

A couple of points worth noting... I highly doubt we end up in a rematch with App. That seems like ESPN just being lazy... I have seen/heard growing buzz that if Marshall and Coastal win out they will likely play each other (assuming Cincy gets the G5 spot). If that happens, I hope its in New Orleans and not on Coastal's home field in Myrtle Beach.

Marshall fans would out number coastal fans in myrtle beach.

 

[RhinoD]

Marshall fans would out number coastal fans in myrtle beach.

I wouldn't doubt that... Just seems like no reward in that matchup... "Hey Marshall, great year, head on down to Myrtle Beach to take on the Sun Belt champs on their hideous teal home field"... "Hey Coastal, great year, don't leave your dorm room for Christmas. We know it's your biggest bowl matchup in program history, but traveling to play in a bowl game isn't necessary."

At least New Orleans is in the Super Dome, on a neutral field, and Coastal gets to leave MB.

 

[muthed]

I wouldn't doubt that... Just seems like no reward in that matchup... "Hey Marshall, great year, head on down to Myrtle Beach to take on the Sun Belt champs on their hideous teal home field"... "Hey Coastal, great year, don't leave your dorm room for Christmas. We know it's your biggest bowl matchup in program history, but traveling to play in a bowl game isn't necessary."

At least New Orleans is in the Super Dome, on a neutral field, and Coastal gets to leave MB.

They have already left MB-welcome to the burb of Conway.

 

[Marshall-21]

Like SMU or Missouri

 

[BleedsGreen33]

Always interesting to see what some of the prognosticators come up with...

ESPN -
Schlabach – Marshall vs. App State in New Orleans
Bonagura – Marshall vs. Coastal Carolina in Myrtle Beach
* ESPN has Cincy as the G5 rep to the NY6 games and BYU as an at-large pick

CBS Sports -
Palm – Marshall vs. Missouri in Birmingham (Missouri looks likely to finish 3-5)

Sporting News -
Bender - Marshall vs. SMU in Dallas

CFN -
Marshall vs. Coastal Carolina in New Orleans

247 Sports -
Marshall vs. Tennessee in Birmingham (Tennessee also looks likely to finish 3-5)

Give me Missouri or Tennessee. I fully believe we can beat Missouri. Haven't seen Tennessee play, but I think we could beat them.

 

[GoHerdMarshallYes]

I wouldn't doubt that... Just seems like no reward in that matchup... "Hey Marshall, great year, head on down to Myrtle Beach to take on the Sun Belt champs on their hideous teal home field"... "Hey Coastal, great year, don't leave your dorm room for Christmas. We know it's your biggest bowl matchup in program history, but traveling to play in a bowl game isn't necessary."

At least New Orleans is in the Super Dome, on a neutral field, and Coastal gets to leave MB.

Given some of the reactions, will the perception of MU change declining a ranked CC team for a 3-5 SEC team?
Lets just say CC ends up unbeaten. MU would have had a chance to knock off 2 teams from the top 25 in 1 season.

 

[lexkyherdfan]

I would imagine the Myrtle Beach Bowl will be out if we make the championship game on Dec 18 since the game is Dec 21. The New Orleans bowl is Dec 23rd so I would think that would be out too. Should we go to the championship game I would imagine we would play in a bowl after Christmas but with they way things have been in 2020 who knows.

 

[UBeenThunderStruck]

If we end up in championship game no way a bowl game within the next even 10 days...

 

[RhinoD]

I would imagine the Myrtle Beach Bowl will be out if we make the championship game on Dec 18 since the game is Dec 21. The New Orleans bowl is Dec 23rd so I would think that would be out too. Should we go to the championship game I would imagine we would play in a bowl after Christmas but with they way things have been in 2020 who knows.

That's a great point... If we make the CUSA championship game it seems more likely that Birmingham would make the most logistical sense, with it being played on New Year's Day. The Dallas game is also a possibility since it isn't played until Dec. 26.

Given some of the reactions, will the perception of MU change declining a ranked CC team for a 3-5 SEC team?
Lets just say CC ends up unbeaten. MU would have had a chance to knock off 2 teams from the top 25 in 1 season.

Did the perception change when we passed on a 6-6 Big10 team for a ranked Northern Illinois?... No... Half the people thought it was the right call, half thought we were idiots for passing on a P5 team. There is no right answer, certainly not one that will change the national perception of the program.

 

[Herdmeister]

A couple of points worth noting... I highly doubt we end up in a rematch with App. That seems like ESPN just being lazy... I have seen/heard growing buzz that if Marshall and Coastal win out they will likely play each other (assuming Cincy gets the G5 spot). If that happens, I hope its in New Orleans and not on Coastal's home field in Myrtle Beach.

I have believed this will be our match. Assuming CCU wins the SB, they usually send their champion to New Orleans. I just wished this would be a normal year where there would be week long festivities leading up to the game. I have always wanted us to go bowling in New Orleans. I've always enjoyed our trips there for football and basketball when Tulane was in the league.
Going down one day before the game like the regular season, will be a big disappointment.

 

[Herdmeister]

If we end up in championship game no way a bowl game within the next even 10 days...

why 10 days? You realize that bowl games will be like regular season games Go to the game one day and play it the next and back home

 

[Herdmeister]

Marshall fans would out number coastal fans in myrtle beach.

keep in mind. Limited attendance

 

[TwolfHerdfan]

why 10 days? You realize that bowl games will be like regular season games Go to the game one day and play it the next and back home

I would suspect we will purposely schedule a bowl game as far out as possible after the assumed CUSA title game. Just to get guys focused again, prepare, make arrangements etc. Even a weeks turn around time would be severe. jmho

 

[lexkyherdfan]

why 10 days? You realize that bowl games will be like regular season games Go to the game one day and play it the next and back home

I can't imagine playing on Friday and turning around and playing the following Wednesday. That just doesn't seem like something that will happen even in 2020. It won't be about whether they go or not go days early...it will be about days to prepare. The only positive is if we are matched up against the Sun Belt champ...both teams would be on short breaks with their championship game being held on Saturday the 19th. Saturday to Wednesday is terrible for the players and coaches. You throw in a travel day on Tuesday and they are prepping on Sunday and Monday, walkthrough on Tuesday and game on Wednesday. That is tough. Saturday to Thursday is tough enough in a regular season game but go from a high stress championship game to a bowl game on a very short week would be pretty tough.

I would think Doc and Hamrick will push for a game after Christmas if we make the championship game.

 

[herdalicious]

We need to beat a named team in a bowl game. None of this G5/G5 crap, I don't care how "good" they are. You want to occasionally pick up a P5 pelt, which is so hard for us to do in the regular season due to the challenges of scheduling them. Even a bad P5 team is worth more than any win over Coastal Carolina, in any year.

 

[The Real SamC]

- The Birmingham Bowl, which is the object of much scorn in the funny as hell YouTube series "SEC Shorts" because it traditionally gets the lowest qualified SEC team, might be the last event at Legion Field, one of the historic stadiums of college football, home of the Auburn-Alabama game (the Iron Bowl) for 50 + years, and home to 100s of other Alabama and some Auburn games. UAB, the Birmingham Bowl, and the HBCU Magic City Classic are moving to the new Protective Insurance Stadium next year.

- I really doubt any of these bowl dates are carved in stone, and I doubt yet more so that the "5th place SEC vs. 3rd place ACC" automatic bid system that has been in use for the last 15 years or so is either. All of these prediction sites, every year, operate on 1) knowledge of the automatic bid system (I think this team will finish in X place in that league and that means ... ); 2) geography (X city would want nearby Y team) ; and 3) fanbase size (X team means Y people in Z city, while another team brings far less). Rather I think ESPN (which owns all of the minor bowls) will just jury rig a set of bowls that seems fair.

 

[MichiganHerd]

We need to beat a named team in a bowl game. None of this G5/G5 crap, I don't care how "good" they are. You want to occasionally pick up a P5 pelt, which is so hard for us to do in the regular season due to the challenges of scheduling them. Even a bad P5 team is worth more than any win over Coastal Carolina, in any year.

I don't know man. I'm thinking when I'm laid out there on my death bed in 2032, me and a select few rednecks will be talking about that big win that took place during the pandemic of 2020 in freaking Conway, SC. Not to mention, all those fun times at the Hollywood Wax Museum, the 108 surf shops, the Original Calabash, the Doll House, and most of all, that big slice of peanut butter fudge at Kilwins on the Boardwalk. Hard to beat all of that, and I didn't even bring up the Bowery.

 

[herdalicious]

Not to mention, all those fun times....

December in Myrtle

 

[19MU88]

Give me Missouri or Tennessee. I fully believe we can beat Missouri. Haven't seen Tennessee play, but I think we could beat them.

that would be good!

 

[mlblack16.]

We need to beat a named team in a bowl game. None of this G5/G5 crap, I don't care how "good" they are. You want to occasionally pick up a P5 pelt, which is so hard for us to do in the regular season due to the challenges of scheduling them. Even a bad P5 team is worth more than any win over Coastal Carolina, in any year.

 

[Herdmeister]

It will be harder this year than ever. CUSA has no bowl tie ins with a P5. The only way we get one is if a league can't fill its quota. This year every league will fills it quota because every team is bowl eligible. We can now see a no win Vanderbilt in a bowl game vs another P5 to help fill the SEC quota

 

[RhinoD]

It will be harder this year than ever. CUSA has no bowl tie ins with a P5. The only way we get one is if a league can't fill its quota. This year every league will fills it quota because every team is bowl eligible. We can now see a no win Vanderbilt in a bowl game vs another P5 to help fill the SEC quota

Theoretically you are correct, but in reality I don't think so... If we are undefeated at the end of the year and in the top 15, MU will be attractive enough to ESPN that they will find a quality matchup for us. There is always horse trading during bowl season to create matchups and this year everything is on the table since everyone is eligible.

What I think is most likely, assuming both teams win out, is ESPN says "Well there ya go, Marshall and Coastal have at it." And they work a deal that sends us to Birmingham or somewhere late in the bowl season due to both teams playing in their respective league title games. (New Orleans and Myrtle Beach would be off the table due to those games being played 3 and 5 days after the CUSA/Sun Belt championship games)

 

[cincyherdfan]

It will be harder this year than ever. CUSA has no bowl tie ins with a P5. The only way we get one is if a league can't fill its quota. This year every league will fills it quota because every team is bowl eligible. We can now see a no win Vanderbilt in a bowl game vs another P5 to help fill the SEC quota

Actually it will probably be easier. Bowl projections this year are almost pointless. With the current schedule if we are in the C-USA championship game then the Myrtle Beach and New Orleans bowls are out....

That’s why ESPN has created some “pool” bowls such as Birmingham Bowl where there will be matchups created.

Also there’s now talk of bowl season being backed up another couple weeks....so there are a lot of moving parts going on. That would be great as would take football all the way to February!!

Let’s just keep winning!! Go Herd

 

[mlblack16.]

What I think is most likely, assuming both teams win out, is ESPN says "Well there ya go, Marshall and Coastal have at it."

I've said this before on here, I absolutely hate this. What a slap in the face. They would basically be isolating the two teams who aren't often in the top 25 and saying, "well, you two don't really belong here, so just go ahead and have your own game of catch over there, and just try to stay out of everyone's way."

 

[ohio herd]

I've said this before on here, I absolutely hate this. What a slap in the face. They would basically be isolating the two teams who aren't often in the top 25 and saying, "well, you two don't really belong here, so just go ahead and have your own game of catch over there, and just try to stay out of everyone's way."

I agree with you but can see this one coming.

 

[RhinoD]

I've said this before on here, I absolutely hate this. What a slap in the face. They would basically be isolating the two teams who aren't often in the top 25 and saying, "well, you two don't really belong here, so just go ahead and have your own game of catch over there, and just try to stay out of everyone's way."

I get that sentiment... I have also seen scenarios where Cincy gets the G5 spot and BYU is selected as an at-large team and they get matched up together in the Peach Bowl. Another, F-U to those guys for having great years essentially... If that happens, it would be fun to create a 4-team G5/Ind playoff and have the two bowl winners play each other for G5 supremacy. Unfortunately, that would probably lead to the P5 and ESPN saying "Hell ya, you kids stick to your own minor bowl game playoffs and we will do our own thing for more money over here from now on."

 

[herdalicious]

They would basically be isolating the two teams who aren't often in the top 25 and saying, "well, you two don't really belong here, so just go ahead and have your own game of catch over there, and just try to stay out of everyone's way."

I feel like that's what College Football at large has been saying to G5 schools ever since they came up with the terms "P5" and "G5" to separate us.

We're all back in I-AA, but pretending we're not because it hasn't been formally decreed. As soon as we recognize and accept that fact, and formulate a championship structure for our division that gives context to our play, we'll remain in this bizarre competitive purgatory where we're D-I for the purposes of our participation in P5 payout games, but in no other regard.

 

[MichiganHerd]

Coastal Carolina still has games against Appalachian and Liberty. If they win both of those, then playing them won't be that bad of a matchup. Will anybody outside of WV or Conway care about the game? Maybe a few hundred people, but the same will be true if the Herd faces Rutgers or Texas Tech.

 

[Herdloyal]

We win out get the P5 matchup and keep moving the goalpost higher!

 

[johns1124]

Coastal Carolina still has games against Appalachian and Liberty. If they win both of those, then playing them won't be that bad of a matchup. Will anybody outside of WV or Conway care about the game? Maybe a few hundred people, but the same will be true if the Herd faces Rutgers or Texas Tech.

I agree; do not see them going undefeated. Even if they do beat Liberty and App St (Who they are 0-6 against). They will have a pissed off ULL, who feels CC stole their thunder, waiting in the wings. If CC gets over that, they should go to a good bowl.

 

[GoHerdMarshallYes]

I get that sentiment... I have also seen scenarios where Cincy gets the G5 spot and BYU is selected as an at-large team and they get matched up together in the Peach Bowl. Another, F-U to those guys for having great years essentially... If that happens, it would be fun to create a 4-team G5/Ind playoff and have the two bowl winners play each other for G5 supremacy. Unfortunately, that would probably lead to the P5 and ESPN saying "Hell ya, you kids stick to your own minor bowl game playoffs and we will do our own thing for more money over here from now on."

This is exactly what'll happen if BYU and Cincy win out.
They'll repeat the 2010 TCU vs. Boise State BCS Bowl because BCS and P5 are absolute cowards to spread those two out in individual games against theirs. The BCS got (deservedly) bombarded with criticism for that move.

 

[MichiganHerd]

I agree; do not see them going undefeated. Even if they do beat Liberty and App St (Who they are 0-6 against). They will have a pissed off ULL, who feels CC stole their thunder, waiting in the wings. If CC gets over that, they should go to a good bowl.

Bottom line, Marshall has several games left to play as well, including a conference championship game. Probably need to win those games before worrying about playing Clemson or Notre Dame for the national title.

 

[i am herdman]

I would take the earliest ball game possible. Because of the Virus. The longer it goes you can get infections and a chance of a shut down. I don't think Marshall can be too picky. It is not like there is even a need to go a week early wherever you are going to enjoy the sites and have parties all of that. Load up and go the day before the game and play and it get on the bus. Also, some states are likely to shut down more than others.

 

[Herdmeister]

I would take the earliest ball game possible. Because of the Virus. The longer it goes you can get infections and a chance of a shut down. I don't think Marshall can be too picky. It is not like there is even a need to go a week early wherever you are going to enjoy the sites and have parties all of that. Load up and go the day before the game and play and it get on the bus. Also, some states are likely to shut down more than others.

All bowls will be played that way. Go one day before the game just like the regular season

 

[Herdmeister]

We win out get the P5 matchup and keep moving the goalpost higher!

We have no P5 tie ins. All P5 conferences will meet their bowl obligations since all teams are eligible

 

[GoHerdMarshallYes]

I would take the earliest ball game possible. Because of the Virus. The longer it goes you can get infections and a chance of a shut down. I don't think Marshall can be too picky. It is not like there is even a need to go a week early wherever you are going to enjoy the sites and have parties all of that. Load up and go the day before the game and play and it get on the bus. Also, some states are likely to shut down more than others.

Eh, I disagree since MU has (so far) <knocks on wood> a stellar record for COVID and handling it.
While this certainly wouldn't move the needle in terms of who MU plays, a whole lot, it does create a testament of how MU has coped with a situation that multiple schools, with tens of millions more in resources, can't seem to figure out.

I guess, it'd just be a quick reminder Hamrick could mention, showing MU has the discipline to treat the game seriously, which looks better than others...and isn't that the point when bowl season comes?