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Cool now you are counting garage space toward total living sq ft. Makes sense.Plenty of reasons to live here. Plenty of reasons to move. Primarily depends on which part of WV you live.
I live in an upscale and growing part of the state in a home with 1 flat acre of land and a total of 7,000 sq ft between my home and 2 garages (one of which is over 2,200 sq ft itself). I have an amazing property, and the home is barely 10 years old. It’s extremely nice, and easily “forever home” material. That combination of home and land isn’t available everywhere, and if it were, would likely cost 2-3 times what I paid for it here in WV.
My wife and I have great jobs that pay very well and allow us to have nice things and travel several times throughout the year. We live a very comfortable life here.
Even in more rural parts of the state, a coal miner can make $100,000+/year easily and live very comfortably.
I would be open to moving if work required it, as would my wife. However, with our families just an hour and a half away, it would take a lot for that to happen. We have young children and our parents are getting old, and we take that into consideration.
Sometimes when we travel, we like the area so well that we begin to talk about the possibility of moving. I could live in Destin Fl, Wilmington and Charlotte NC, various parts of Tennessee, among other areas. There is certainly a lot to offer elsewhere, but the lifestyle I get to live here is very nice and fulfilling.
Cool now you are counting garage space toward total living sq ft. Makes sense.
That's the size of Yagi's walk in closet...for his sweaters.It’s a detached garage and is 2,200 sq ft, has a separate living room, and is bigger than many houses. My house itself is about 4,800 sq ft.
It is different but the poverty has always been there. Add in poor medical services, highest rates of heart disease and diabetes in the nation. Highest percentage of people on disability and one of the highest in welfare and food stamps. Easy to understand why people who don’t have this type of lifestyle are getting the fvck out.With the drug crisis, low paying jobs, shitty economy, horrible school system, overall, of course, is the any reason why?
I live in the middle of a 260 acre family owned farm in a large pain in the ass log house that I'd burn to the ground if I could get away with it, and I have loved it here. Not as much now as I once did. We have one rental on the property and found out 2 days ago that it was raided by a dozen troopers at 2 a.m. about 2 weeks ago. Less than 1/2 a mile from my house. Drugs. Yeah, they've been served eviction notice.
The town I grew up in has, like so many other towns across the state, become over taken with meth and heroin. I lost my nephew last fall to an OD. shit's no fun.
Frankly, if it wasn't for the wife wanting to be near her family, I'd have moved my kids the hell out of here years ago.
The WV I grew up loving has turned into something way different.
That's the size of Yagi's walk in closet...for his sweaters.
Even in more rural parts of the state, a coal miner can make $100,000+/year easily and live very comfortably.
Yeah, a lot of that has been the norm for years, but people were happy. People don't have to be rich to be happy. The growing drug epidemic that's already completely out of control makes it much more difficult to deal with the other, though.It is different but the poverty has always been there. Add in poor medical services, highest rates of heart disease and diabetes in the nation. Highest percentage of people on disability and one of the highest in welfare and food stamps. Easy to understand why people who don’t have this type of lifestyle are getting the fvck out.
And you can go to North Dakota with a GED, work on the natural gas lines, and make $80,000+ . . . but you're still in North Dakota.
Plenty of reasons to live here. Plenty of reasons to move. Primarily depends on which part of WV you live.
I live in an upscale and growing part of the state in a home with 1 flat acre of land and a total of 7,000 sq ft between my home and 2 garages (one of which is over 2,200 sq ft itself). I have an amazing property, and the home is barely 10 years old. It’s extremely nice, and easily “forever home” material. That combination of home and land isn’t available everywhere, and if it were, would likely cost 2-3 times what I paid for it here in WV.
My wife and I have great jobs that pay very well and allow us to have nice things and travel several times throughout the year. We live a very comfortable life here.
Even in more rural parts of the state, a coal miner can make $100,000+/year easily and live very comfortably.
I would be open to moving if work required it, as would my wife. However, with our families just an hour and a half away, it would take a lot for that to happen. We have young children and our parents are getting old, and we take that into consideration.
Sometimes when we travel, we like the area so well that we begin to talk about the possibility of moving. I could live in Destin Fl, Wilmington and Charlotte NC, various parts of Tennessee, among other areas. There is certainly a lot to offer elsewhere, but the lifestyle I get to live here is very nice and fulfilling.
pretty much sums up my place of abode, but you knew that.If I am going to put up with a crap economy and people banging smack into their veins, I am at least going to live in the middle of nowhere with a lot of land and great views.
Completely agree. The valley between Charleston and Huntington is pretty much the least desirable scenic area of the state. But hey you are allowed to include unfinished and garage space in your TLA.Oddly, where and how you live are the exact opposite of the things that I think make WV cool. You live in the least scenic part of the state, with the most traffic, in between two cities with raging drug epidemics, and the economy is still crap. If I am going to put up with a crap economy and people banging smack into their veins, I am at least going to live in the middle of nowhere with a lot of land and great views. I'll give you you can get a lot of home from your money, but that's the same as here. At least our economy is decent.
Your own link, the one you're touting to bash WV (which I agree with, btw), lists ND in the top 10.
Completely agree. The valley between Charleston and Huntington is pretty much the least desirable scenic area of the state. But hey you are allowed to include unfinished and garage space in your TLA.
That is a pretty large gap between your house and garages.I said I owned 7,000 sq feet between my house and garages. I never claimed it was all living space. I can’t help it if you can’t read.
Thanks for explaining what is patently obvious.
My point is, you're taking a dig at ND, but it makes the top 10 in the same survey you're relying on to bash WV. So, either you think the survey is accurate (since you rely on it as he basis of your OP) or it's bullsh*t (which you seem to be espousing now), which means your initial premise is bullsh*t as well.
Holy shit. This is some top of the line failure in reading comprehension and logic and is a perfect example of why you have fully earned the Tier Three name.
The survey is strictly about how residents in each state feel about their lives. The polling shows that West Virginians feel the worst about themselves in those five categories. That shows that they are aware of how shitty their lives are.
My comments on West Virginia being a shithole has absolutely nothing to do with its residents realizing it is a shithole. All of the West Virginians polled could have claimed they were ecstatic to live there and ecstatic about their place in the five categories they were questioned about. Every single one of them could have had the same outlook that Big Country mentioned in this thread. That wouldn't change the fact that it is still a shithole state.
Likewise, North Dakotans finishing 10th in how they feel about their lives doesn't change the fact that it is still a shithole state.
They are two separate things. The fact that West Virginians appear to know how shitty their lives are living in that state for ten straight years is simply comical.
That is a pretty large gap between your house and garages.
Yes you will want to count your yard as TLA too.There actually is about a quarter acre between my house and one of my garages. The other is an attached garage to my house. The big one, though, sits out by itself and is the size of a house.
The big one, though, sits out by itself and is the size of a house.