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I would lay the points. WKU has everything to play for. We have stopped listening to the coaches. Bad weather, no crowd, no vibe, team will go through the motions.
 
Nah Akron was and will be regardless of this score

yup... and look how they turned out.

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Doc needs help OR be replaced. Legg, Heater, Mirabel need to find employment elsewhere or MH simply needs to fire the entire staff. If and when we do get a new HC I hope he come from an established winning program and has the fire within to want to succeed. Doc seems to have lost his enthusiasm to coach.
 
Doc needs help OR be replaced. Legg, Heater, Mirabel need to find employment elsewhere or MH simply needs to fire the entire staff. If and when we do get a new HC I hope he come from an established winning program and has the fire within to want to succeed. Doc seems to have lost his enthusiasm to coach.

In.... before someone claims "no one would want to coach Marshall" or "we cant afford anyone with a real coaching mind/ability"
 
there is no question that this year is far worse than Snyder's worst...

2007 (3-9)
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2016 (3-9*)
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One thing, or make that 3, perfectly clear from this chart. First, we played a lot stronger schedule, more formidable opponents, during Snyder's 3-9 season; Second, we had better home attendance throughout that disastrous season than in 2016. 31,000 for Rice? Man, the way the Herd and Owls are playing this season, we wouldn't get half of that!! Third, just as important, and sad to say, our Television coverage in 2007 was far, far better than our current TV package/exposure. Another glaring example of how CUSA has continued to deteriorate into mediocrity over the decade since 2007!!!!!
 
In.... before someone claims "no one would want to coach Marshall" or "we cant afford anyone with a real coaching mind/ability"

Don't you just love that? I think it's a preemptive excuse designed by the Super Fans to further accept mediocrity from whoever the replacement coach would be.
 
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Don't you just love that? I think it's a preemptive excuse designed by the Super Fans to further accept mediocrity from whoever the replacement coach would be.

Driven me crazy for years!! Unfortunately, it's in the culture of the state. "Good son comes home" philosophy.

If it happens to work once. Count your blessings, you probably got lucky. Continuing to go to the same well will eventually run dry.

I am one who believes that positive growth or change has to come from the outside. This was the strategy that Built the foundation for the 90s success. The wheel doesn't have to be reinvented. Marshall drew the blueprint for creating a nationally known program from nothing. Someone just needs dust it off and get to work.
 
HELP WANTED:

Head football coach. Limited resources. Lowest third of I-A pay. Location, small and broke state which might produce 4 legit I-A prospects per year. Hostile state government. Small booster club. Small fan base, most of which will bitch if a game is set for 1:30 and they have bowling league that lasts until 2. League made up of random teams with really nothing in common, spread out over three time zones. Understand, that you MUST win 95% of the games you play, every year, with no exceptions, or you will be fired.

Yeah, good luck with that. People are standing in line to coach here. Probably could get Kiffen. Maybe even Saban himself.

Good Lord.
 
HELP WANTED:

Head football coach. Limited resources. Lowest third of I-A pay. Location, small and broke state which might produce 4 legit I-A prospects per year. Hostile state government. Small booster club. Small fan base, most of which will bitch if a game is set for 1:30 and they have bowling league that lasts until 2. League made up of random teams with really nothing in common, spread out over three time zones. Understand, that you MUST win 95% of the games you play, every year, with no exceptions, or you will be fired.

Yeah, good luck with that. People are standing in line to coach here. Probably could get Kiffen. Maybe even Saban himself.

Good Lord.



There's only a $70K difference between Doc's pay vs coaches who rank numbers 2-5 in the conference and only a $50K difference would place Doc in the top 3 for pay in C-USA, so stop pretending we are so disparaged.

There's probably a dozen or more I-AA coaches chomping at the bit for the head coaching position here. They don't care where it is. They want the chance to prove their worth and then, in time, they move on. You don't want a head coach nobody is stealing from you.

Consistently win games, important games against teams with a pulse, and the fans will come.
 
HELP WANTED:

Head football coach. Limited resources. Lowest third of I-A pay. Location, small and broke state which might produce 4 legit I-A prospects per year. Hostile state government. Small booster club. Small fan base, most of which will bitch if a game is set for 1:30 and they have bowling league that lasts until 2. League made up of random teams with really nothing in common, spread out over three time zones. Understand, that you MUST win 95% of the games you play, every year, with no exceptions, or you will be fired.

Yeah, good luck with that. People are standing in line to coach here. Probably could get Kiffen. Maybe even Saban himself.

Good Lord.

And by the way, Coach Klieman from the I-AA super power North Dakota State just got a boost to bring his salary up to $300K/yr. I think he would gladly accept a job that was $765K plus an additional $145K in bonus if he wins the conference.
 
Shhhhhhhh Kelly. SamC is on another roll. It was just the other day he was telling FIU to roll it up.........just before they rolled our ass out of town. I guess in his eyes, Htgn was a thriving metropolis, and Marshall was rolling in $$$ in the late 80's and 90's while playing in highest tier in college football.

Shit. For 700-800K, we could at least land us another "recruiting genius" that actually held a head coaching job before. Then again....Forget it. Marshall's broke, the state of WV sucks, "hope" for better days is all we have left. The only coaches left to choose from are WV natives desperate for a "dream job" to retire in.
 
800K here is like 1Mil or more in most places. You get an up and coming FCS coach who makes 350K and he almost triples his salary. That's an easy sell.

Ask my friends in CT about cost of living. They pay 5 figures in property taxes. Ouch!
 
You guys think Kiffen? Saban? Fisher? Or should we aim a little lower? Maybe Strong or Kelly?

After all, people making millions really worry a lot about how much their property taxes are.

Of course, if they don't win every game every year, fire 'em.

Good Lord.
 
Ummm, sounds like somebody here is eager and ready to sign Doc and his whole staff to ANOTHER multi year extension and is willing to bankroll the whole thing himself!!!!!!
 
Sam are you available? Please submit your coaching resume on Herd Nation so we all can vote. Thank you.
 
You guys think Kiffen? Saban? Fisher? Or should we aim a little lower? Maybe Strong or Kelly?

After all, people making millions really worry a lot about how much their property taxes are.

Of course, if they don't win every game every year, fire 'em.

Good Lord.

It's obvious you are ignoring logic. You fire back with more lunacy. Why? Nobody is saying we can hire top coaches at big programs.
 
Driven me crazy for years!! Unfortunately, it's in the culture of the state. "Good son comes home" philosophy.

If it happens to work once. Count your blessings, you probably got lucky. Continuing to go to the same well will eventually run dry.

I am one who believes that positive growth or change has to come from the outside. This was the strategy that Built the foundation for the 90s success. The wheel doesn't have to be reinvented. Marshall drew the blueprint for creating a nationally known program from nothing. Someone just needs dust it off and get to work.
Boise St bought the blueprint from Marcum for a slow dime.
 
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Marcum was here in the late 80s & early 90s?? That's THE blueprint.


What? Doing nothing? Being stagnant? Pissing off the donors because he was a moron?

We managed to maintain with a good run football because we had better athletes and coaches than our opponents at the time. KO almost ruined our AD.
 
What? Doing nothing? Being stagnant? Pissing off the donors because he was a moron?

We managed to maintain with a good run football because we had better athletes and coaches than our opponents at the time. KO almost ruined our AD.

I was asking a rhetorical question of PD. I know marcum wasn't here during the period I discussed.
 
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