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Originally posted by greenherdman:
Cato vs Manziel you say? Please!!!!! Cato isn't even close to Manziel and i can't even stand the little punk in Cleveland. Manziel had to play against real teams, not these knock off 1AA teams. Manziel beat Alabama and played against top competition week after week. Don't go into your fantasy world, like some of you did before the NIU game. When you all were trying to say this would be the best team we played all year. And who was the best team we played all year....LT, WKU? WOW that says a lot. That's not bigtime football.


Honest question. Why are you a marshall fan?
 
Originally posted by riflearm2:


Originally posted by Trebel06:
Cato I think would tear up the Canadian League
I think you underestimate the quality of QBs in the CFL. Heisman winner, NFL guys, etc.
Actually hasn't been any NFL "talent" in the CFL for a couple of years. A few washed up/failed NFL QBs (Troy Smith).

Mostly journeymen QBs.

Top CFL QBs the last 3 years:

Henry Burris - Temple
Kevin Glenn - Illinois St
Ricky Ray - Sac St
Drew Willy - Buffalo

Size will still be an issue but I think Cato would do very well in Canada if he decided to take that route.
 
I did love how the play by play guy went on and on about Cato at least deserving a shot.

He kept saying, "I'm not going to name any names but have you seen some of the backup QB play in the NFL this year?"

Here's a little comparison for you:

R. Cato

1153 - 1838 62.7% 14,079 Yards

131 TDs 44 INTS

QB Rating - 145.8

Starter this week in the NFL

961-1732 55.5% 12,690 Yards

90 TDs 47 INTS

QB Rating - 128.8

The above is Ryan Lindley. Holds the NFL record for most pass attempts without a TD.

Played at San Diego St., 4 year starter. 6th Round Draft pick.

What's the difference?

6' 4" - 230 lbs - Big Arm

Genetics dealt Cato 6'0" - 175.............I'm glad it did, because if he'd been 6'3" + coming out of high school he wouldn't have played for us.

It's been a great 4 years.......I wish Cato and Shuler a lot of luck....In Life, they deserve it!
 
Originally posted by banker6796:
If you think Cato is a system QB you know nothing about football. Of course I am talking about what you think is a system QB. Truth is every QB runs a system, therefore all QBs are a product of the system they run. Since cougar queen is here, I will point out that "system QBs" are guys like Case Keenum and other offshoots of the Leach system at Texas Tech. Guys like Shane Carden at ECU who rarely throw downfield or outside the wide hash. They are just dink and dunk guys who pile up yardage based on YAC that the system produces.
Keenum is a starting NFL quarterback and holds almost every NCAA passing record. If he's such a "system qb" then how come nobody surpassed his stats yet or even matched them for that matter?




And to those who are bringing up our bowl game, we went 7-5, fired our coach and are STILL playing a January bowl game against a P5 opponent. Marshall went 13-1 and still got a December bowl against a MAC team.
 
Originally posted by CougarKing:

Originally posted by banker6796:
If you think Cato is a system QB you know nothing about football. Of course I am talking about what you think is a system QB. Truth is every QB runs a system, therefore all QBs are a product of the system they run. Since cougar queen is here, I will point out that "system QBs" are guys like Case Keenum and other offshoots of the Leach system at Texas Tech. Guys like Shane Carden at ECU who rarely throw downfield or outside the wide hash. They are just dink and dunk guys who pile up yardage based on YAC that the system produces.
Keenum is a starting NFL quarterback and holds almost every NCAA passing record. If he's such a "system qb" then how come nobody surpassed his stats yet or even matched them for that matter?




And to those who are bringing up our bowl game, we went 7-5, fired our coach and are STILL playing a January bowl game against a P5 opponent. Marshall went 13-1 and still got a December bowl against a MAC team.
You're a 3 point underdog to 6-6 Pitt, who lost to Akron, in a New Years after-thought bowl game.

You're 7-5 with losses to 4-8 UTSA and Tulane......Awesome!
 
Originally posted by CockyHerd:
You're a 3 point underdog to 6-6 Pitt, who lost to Akron, in a New Years after-thought bowl game.

You're 7-5 with losses to 4-8 UTSA and Tulane......Awesome!
Still a better bowl game than Marshall's. Plus we will be getting some nice PR in the playoffs.
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Oh and I forgot to mention that bowl is within driving distance too!
 
Cougar, he was out out of football a week ago and is a "starter" because Houston's 3 roster QBs age all injured. Case had a great collegiate career and has had some moments in the NFL, but don't mistake the Texans injuries for Case being a starter. He sure was fun to watch in college though.
 
Originally posted by CockyHerd:
Originally posted by riflearm2:
I think you underestimate the quality of QBs in the CFL. Heisman winner, NFL guys, etc.
Actually hasn't been any NFL "talent" in the CFL for a couple of years. A few washed up/failed NFL QBs (Troy Smith).
I never claimed they had NFL "talent," so I'm not sure why you quoted that. The fact is that they have former NFL QBs, including a heisman winner, up there.
 
We played a team that is better than coach less 6-6 Pitt. You are playing in the bowl you are in because your conference has an affiliation with that bowl, it has nothing to do with the barely above .500 Houston Kittens. What did you beat, one or two bowl eligible teams all year? Thank God for the pathetic teams at the bottom of the AAC or your season would already be done.
 
Originally posted by banker6796:
We played a team that is better than coach less 6-6 Pitt. You are playing in the bowl you are in because your conference has an affiliation with that bowl, it has nothing to do with the barely above .500 Houston Kittens. What did you beat, one or two bowl eligible teams all year? Thank God for the pathetic teams at the bottom of the AAC or your season would already be done.
Doesn't matter. 6-6 Pitt holds more weight than 11-3 Northern Illinois. Either way you look at it our schedule was a helluva lot tougher than Marshall's.
 
Enjoy playing a team that lost to Akron, if you aren't familiar with Akron look at our weak schedule and you'll see them destroyed. Just a note for you, we played 9 bowl eligible teams this year, Akron wasn't one of them......the same Akron that beat the Pitt team that holds so much weight.
 
Originally posted by CougarKing:
Originally posted by banker6796:
We played a team that is better than coach less 6-6 Pitt. You are playing in the bowl you are in because your conference has an affiliation with that bowl, it has nothing to do with the barely above .500 Houston Kittens. What did you beat, one or two bowl eligible teams all year? Thank God for the pathetic teams at the bottom of the AAC or your season would already be done.
Doesn't matter. 6-6 Pitt holds more weight than 11-3 Northern Illinois. Either way you look at it our schedule was a helluva lot tougher than Marshall's.
We had an opportunity to play a 6-6 P5 team and turned it down for better competition and still crushed them. You can talk about how great you think your bowl game is but Pitt wasnt even good enough to beat Akron. Marshall by comparison crushed Akron. Have fun playing Pitt, your win will mean nothing. Meanwhile Marshall will be sitting in the top 25.
 
Originally posted by sportsphantom1:

We had an opportunity to play a 6-6 P5 team and turned it down


Well Marshall's AD has a reputation for not making good decisions so this doesn't come as a surprise.
 
It doesn't matter what decisions Hamrick makes. The fans will complain at first and then get in line with their marching orders. We could have played in Australia against slippery rock. And after the game everyone would be talking about what a great game and pick that bowl was. They always just fall in line.
 
Originally posted by greenherdman:
It doesn't matter what decisions Hamrick makes. The fans will complain at first and then get in line with their marching orders. We could have played in Australia against slippery rock. And after the game everyone would be talking about what a great game and pick that bowl was. They always just fall in line.
And that;s the problem. Until Marshall fans (as a whole) start holding their AD accountable, then nothing will change.
 
So you're siding with the most pathetic poster on this board. Now that's funny.

Hold him accountable for what? Improving our budget, building top notch facilities, improving the coaches salaries across the board in all sports, improving the donor base, improving the quality of the student-athletes at Marshall, some programs with the highest APR ratings in the conference, and improving the image of Marshall with it's alumni over the last 6 years. Yes, I'll hold him accountable for making Marshall relevant again after the last baboon fvck that all up
 
Herdfever truth hurt? You think we are bigtime beating a NIU in a more than half empty stadium in a first year bowl? And i guess that is the best we can do at 13-1. WOW strut around big guy.
 
I guess you haven't watched any other bowl games this year

NIU conference champions, played in the Orange Bowl 2 years ago and has won 11+ the last 5 years. Pretty solid program on the ups right now and we beat the piss out of them

Last time I checked we are a G5 school and the main goals should be win your conference, win your bowl game, and be in the top 5 G5 schools because being in the Top 5 of 63 schools should be the goal of all G5 schools
 
NIU the jugernaut. WOW how high we set or sites....LOL!!!!!!!!! WE beat NIU impressive. Keep telling me about all those teams we beat herdfever, come on go down the list....LOL!!!!
 
Originally posted by Herd Fever:
I guess you haven't watched any other bowl games this year

NIU conference champions, played in the Orange Bowl 2 years ago and has won 11+ the last 5 years. Pretty solid program on the ups right now and we beat the piss out of them

Last time I checked we are a G5 school and the main goals should be win your conference, win your bowl game, and be in the top 5 G5 schools because being in the Top 5 of 63 schools should be the goal of all G5 schools
That's some serious turd polishing. They are a directional MAC school who played in the Orange Bowl and got destroyed.



As for the second part, such low-setting goals is again why Marshall was left behind. Instead of aiming for being the Top 5 G5 school, you should be aiming for being ranked upon being one of the best of ALL FBS schools.

There's a reaosn why UCF, Houston, Memphis, UCONN, Cincinnati and to a lesser extent, SMU and ECU are always brought up when P5 expansion is discussed. These schools are aiming to be amongst the very best and are making P5 investments into athletics not some "Top 5 of G5 and hype up MAC schools" bs.
 
Houston gets mentioned for expansion because of their television market and recruiting area and those reasons only. The AAC, nor any p5 conference discusses football with the intent of them challenging for anything in football.
 
Where is Houston going to go?? No Texas school that's not part of the P5 now will ever be part of the P5
 
Originally posted by Herd Fever:
Where is Houston going to go?? No Texas school that's not part of the P5 now will ever be part of the P5
My guess is either Big 12, Pac 12 or a heavily raided ACC. Houston media and state politicians are pushing for Big 12 since many are arguing that the SEC has taken SE Texas away from the Big 12. Time will tell.
 
PAC 12? ACC? I want what you're smoking. Big 12, possibly, but only to make Texas politicos happy. Really says something when the biggest school in the 4th/5th largest city in America really isn't seen as adding value to a P5 conference.
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I want what he is smoking too

As long as Texas and Oklahoma is still in the Big 12, Houston will NEVER EVER be in the Big 12
 
Originally posted by riflearm2:


Originally posted by CockyHerd:

Originally posted by riflearm2:
I think you underestimate the quality of QBs in the CFL. Heisman winner, NFL guys, etc.
Actually hasn't been any NFL "talent" in the CFL for a couple of years. A few washed up/failed NFL QBs (Troy Smith).
I never claimed they had NFL "talent," so I'm not sure why you quoted that. The fact is that they have former NFL QBs, including a heisman winner, up there.
Some former 3rd string NFL QBs......No Heisman winners (QBs) on any roster this year.

Yes, in the past they've had a few decent QBs with NFL potential or past NFL experience but not now. Brian Brohm and John Beck are probably the biggest names currently on rosters. Both were 2nd round NFL draft picks. (Brohm was beat out by Drew Willy)

Only saying that Cato could compete there.......If he's even interested.
 
I love when Cougar comes to post!! What a giant idiot.

Herd would be favored by 17+ against Coogs. And we'd cover.
 
I wouldn't be surprised to see Cato in an NFL camp. I also agree Cato could do very well in Canada with more wide open game. Accuracy is something you can't put a value on..... Those ESPN guys in studio have opinions like you or I but they aren't NFL scouts for sure. I thought the ESPN game crew did a real good job as did the production crew.
 
Originally posted by CougarKing:
Originally posted by Herd Fever:
Where is Houston going to go?? No Texas school that's not part of the P5 now will ever be part of the P5
My guess is either Big 12, Pac 12 or a heavily raided ACC. Houston media and state politicians are pushing for Big 12 since many are arguing that the SEC has taken SE Texas away from the Big 12. Time will tell.
I don't think the Big 12 wants Houston or they would have taken them when the SWC ended or when they added WVu and TCU to replace Mizzou and TA&M.
 
A Houston fan really is bragging about playing a 6-6 Pitt team that lost to a team that was not Bowl eligible that Marshall crushed just because of the date of their bowl game? Gotta be the joke of the year.
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Originally posted by Herd4ever07:
You got blown out at home by UTSA and would be about the 5-6th toughest game on Marshall's schedule.
No, LOL. We would have beaten down everybody on Marshall's schedule. Marshall would have bee a 3rd-5th place team i the AAC.
 
27-7 against 4-8 UTSA on your home field. I'd take NIU, WKU, LaTech, and Rice over Houston on a neutral field.....all by double digits. I'm not even sold you are a Houston fan. Your statements reach such levels of absurdity, it's like you are trying to make Houston look bad. No real fan of a school that lost to UTSA and Tulane at home could make the statements you have.
 
Originally posted by Herd4ever07:
27-7 against 4-8 UTSA on your home field. I'd take NIU, WKU, LaTech, and Rice over Houston on a neutral field.....all by double digits. I'm not even sold you are a Houston fan. Your statements reach such levels of absurdity, it's like you are trying to make Houston look bad. No real fan of a school that lost to UTSA and Tulane at home could make the statements you have.
Maybe I'm not or maybe I'm just as delusional about my team as you are about Marshall.
 
I haven't said anything to you about Marshall other than I think Houston would be at best the 5th best team on Marshall's schedule and I think Marshall would be favored by 24 on a neutral field. The first statement has more to do with 4 of Marshall's opponents than it does Marshall and the 2nd is a guess based on odds Vegas has laid on Marshall all season. Neither of them had to do with my opinion on the team. Plus if you haven't noticed, you are on a Marshall board. This whole discussion has been about Houston and Marshall's actual opponents.
 
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