Gibson presser - reactions & hot takes

[W-S HerdFan]

Really impressed. He’s not flashy and speaks in a down to earth fashion. One thing I think I caught in the Q&A was that we aren’t giving up on getting some of our players back out of the portal. Said people make emotional decisions in an uncertain situation. He had a team meeting this past Monday, and has spoken with each member of the team. He was asked about recruiting in state talent. He said if they’re good enough to help us win the conference and get us into the playoffs, he wants them. But, it can’t just be that they’re local products. He jokingly thanked Chris Spears for scheduling Georgia as his first game as HC. He spoke about the 75. Said “We are because they were.” At the end recognized Coach Pruett. Said they had a 62 minute phone call and Bob talked for 59 1/2!
Said he has all but one of his new staff lined up.
p.s. He is going to be involved with prep for the bowl game, doing what he can to help us get ready.

 

[raleighherdfan]

He also promised he isn't going anywhere. "Bought his last house..."

The #1 job prerequisite at Marshall.

That alone has many MU fans creaming in their pants.

 

[W-S HerdFan]

He also promised he isn't going anywhere. "Bought his last house..."

The #1 job prerequisite at Marshall.

That alone has many MU fans creaming in their pants.

Yeah ……Victor’s Cleaners about to get bizee! 😂

 

[Herdguy04]

He also promised he isn't going anywhere. "Bought his last house..."

The #1 job prerequisite at Marshall.

That alone has many MU fans creaming in their pants.

It's funny because MU (and wvu to a lesser degree) have seen what real life looks like...so they hire Gibson. Alright, he may do well, I hope so, but it seems like they took the local guy because they don't want to keep routinely being reminded of how little they matter in the world.

Guess MU would rather not be a stepping stone, despite all the fans accepting that's exactly what MU is, and it being the model for success (see 2024 SBC Champions, Marshall)...in exchange for someone who (as MU fans have constantly complained about) has never been a HC, coming from a P5 program, essentially downgrading his reach, budget, and resources in general...all the stuff they tried to distance themselves from.

But gee golly darn he's from WV!!! The Good 'ole Boy Network is back online!!!

 

[Herdguy04]

He was asked about recruiting in state talent. He said if they’re good enough to help us win the conference and get us into the playoffs, he wants them. But, it can’t just be that they’re local products.

This clearly wasn't the same strategy MU took when hiring the next HC...
This was exactly because he's local...but just because he is, doesn't mean he will be any good.

 

[W-S HerdFan]

This clearly wasn't the same strategy MU took when hiring the next HC...
This was exactly because he's local...but just because he is, doesn't mean he will be any good.

04 - you’re implying the only reason we hired Gibson is that he’s a local?

 

[redsfan5590]

It's funny because MU (and wvu to a lesser degree) have seen what real life looks like...so they hire Gibson. Alright, he may do well, I hope so, but it seems like they took the local guy because they don't want to keep routinely being reminded of how little they matter in the world.

Guess MU would rather not be a stepping stone, despite all the fans accepting that's exactly what MU is, and it being the model for success (see 2024 SBC Champions, Marshall)...in exchange for someone who (as MU fans have constantly complained about) has never been a HC, coming from a P5 program, essentially downgrading his reach, budget, and resources in general...all the stuff they tried to distance themselves from.

But gee golly darn he's from WV!!! The Good 'ole Boy Network is back online!!!

The last coach we had that wasn't a stepping stone, how many conference championships did he win? Same amount? How many times did he have us ranked? More than Huff? If the 12 team playoff had existed in 2014, would we have been one play from a playoff berth?

I understand what you're saying, and it's one reason I liked the Huff hire initially. I'm not even saying you're wrong. But I think you are discounting the Doc years. At the end it was rough... but he had some highs too. That 2014 year was special. Just like 2024 was special. The problem with a stepping stone candidate is that after their special season they're always going to leave.

 

[herdftblfan]

I don't know about you folks but when I talk about Marshall, I say "we" when referencing the University and the athletic programs. When I read or hear a "fan" speak in terms of "they," I always take notice.

 

[TwolfHerdfan]

I am more concerned about the staff he will build. We need a very strong staff on the offensive side of the ball, whether they are a Marshall, WV native, or not. He needs a home run right out of the gate. I like his passion. Hope he can keep us respectable in 25 and blow through the SB in the years after. Welcome Coach and family!

 

[TwolfHerdfan]

It's funny because MU (and wvu to a lesser degree) have seen what real life looks like...so they hire Gibson. Alright, he may do well, I hope so, but it seems like they took the local guy because they don't want to keep routinely being reminded of how little they matter in the world.

Guess MU would rather not be a stepping stone, despite all the fans accepting that's exactly what MU is, and it being the model for success (see 2024 SBC Champions, Marshall)...in exchange for someone who (as MU fans have constantly complained about) has never been a HC, coming from a P5 program, essentially downgrading his reach, budget, and resources in general...all the stuff they tried to distance themselves from.

But gee golly darn he's from WV!!! The Good 'ole Boy Network is back online!!!

Do you by chance know Nicholas Freidin?

 

[MUMAN3419]

I am more concerned about the staff he will build. We need a very strong staff on the offensive side of the ball, whether they are a Marshall, WV native, or not. He needs a home run right out of the gate. I like his passion. Hope he can keep us respectable in 25 and blow through the SB in the years after. Welcome Coach and family!

When he said he was going to hire WV guys it gave me anxiety about Legg. Lol

 

[The Real SamC]

If MU is a "stepping stone" then we are not very good at it, considering the last coach to leave here for a step up job left in 1995.

This fan base is already fractured.

On one side are the anti Gibson losers. Divided into several factions. The WVU haters, who, egged on by Dickrod being back in the Land of Spam, will hate on Coach (who went to Glenville State, BTW) for his past associations with WV's junior university. And supporters of the cabal. The cabal who went around the AD and hired the bozo CH, a person who the current AD said "was looking for a new job when I got here", a guy who, properly vetted by an actual AD, would have never been hired, and these cabal supporters won't ADMIT THEY WERE WRONG. And those with WV inferiority complex. He is actually from WV, how can he possibly be any good. Lets get us some smart flatlander.

On the other side are the Marshall fans. We understand what a rebuilding job Coach has been given, handicapped by the perception that .600 actually accomplished something on his way out the door other than dodge all the good teams, and we support him 100%.

 

[Marshall2004]

When he said he was going to hire WV guys it gave me anxiety about Legg. Lol

YOU THINK HE'S GONE?!? HE'S NEVER GONE!!!

 

[ru4_mu2]

When he said he was going to hire WV guys it gave me anxiety about Legg. Lol

As long as he's not the OC, I'd be ok with it. Legg's a good coach, just not a good OC, IMO. I wouldn't be surprised to see him hired either here or wvu as a position coach.

 

[Herdguy04]

The last coach we had that wasn't a stepping stone, how many conference championships did he win? Same amount? How many times did he have us ranked? More than Huff? If the 12 team playoff had existed in 2014, would we have been one play from a playoff berth?

I understand what you're saying, and it's one reason I liked the Huff hire initially. I'm not even saying you're wrong. But I think you are discounting the Doc years. At the end it was rough... but he had some highs too. That 2014 year was special. Just like 2024 was special. The problem with a stepping stone candidate is that after their special season they're always going to leave.

What do you want? Do you want consistency in someone staying long term...alright, it'll be about 3-4 years you make the conference title game...but you know your HC won't leave if you do win it?
Or
Constantly rolling the dice to HOPE you get consistency before you make the conference title game and HOPE the HC doesn't leave before then?

Seems to me, having a long term HC may not net you the large number of titles you expect, but you likely won't have damn near the ENTIRE team leaving when he does.

 

[Herdguy04]

If MU is a "stepping stone" then we are not very good at it, considering the last coach to leave here for a step up job left in 1995.

This fan base is already fractured.

On one side are the anti Gibson losers. Divided into several factions. The WVU haters, who, egged on by Dickrod being back in the Land of Spam, will hate on Coach (who went to Glenville State, BTW) for his past associations with WV's junior university. And supporters of the cabal. The cabal who went around the AD and hired the bozo CH, a person who the current AD said "was looking for a new job when I got here", a guy who, properly vetted by an actual AD, would have never been hired, and these cabal supporters won't ADMIT THEY WERE WRONG. And those with WV inferiority complex. He is actually from WV, how can he possibly be any good. Lets get us some smart flatlander.

On the other side are the Marshall fans. We understand what a rebuilding job Coach has been given, handicapped by the perception that .600 actually accomplished something on his way out the door other than dodge all the good teams, and we support him 100%.

Post the baseball schedule.

Thanks.

 

[Herdguy04]

04 - you’re implying the only reason we hired Gibson is that he’s a local?

Not the only reason, but a big reason.

Considering he's exactly what MU fans wanted to avoid when Doc wasn't retained...and during their grumblings with Huff...
"He's never been a HC."
"I'm sick of coordinators being hired, MU needs to go to a lower level program to get a quality guy."
"Stop going local, we need to think outside the box."

How many of those are Gibson?

Now, he may work out and sounds like he really wants to be at MU...but wanting to be somewhere and being good at your job aren't the same thing...and it makes me wonder if MU is going to pull the plug on him if he should not be successful or not...because they don't want to have to hire a guy who's interviewing the week after he's started.

 

[W-S HerdFan]

Pardon me for asking (R.I.P. Ernie S!), but if we were to fire him before his contract is up, would we not owe him the balance?

 

[redsfan5590]

What do you want? Do you want consistency in someone staying long term...alright, it'll be about 3-4 years you make the conference title game...but you know your HC won't leave if you do win it?
Or
Constantly rolling the dice to HOPE you get consistency before you make the conference title game and HOPE the HC doesn't leave before then?

Seems to me, having a long term HC may not net you the large number of titles you expect, but you likely won't have damn near the ENTIRE team leaving when he does.

Yeah I'd agree with your sentiment there at the end. I honestly think both types of coaches will have similar results. Snyder is the one coach we can look at in recent Herd History and say "he was an abject failure". If we can avoid that, I think we are fine. And I have no concerns at this point we are headed that way.

 

[redsfan5590]

Pardon me for asking (R.I.P. Ernie S!), but if we were to fire him before his contract is up, would we not owe him the balance?

Yes, at least that is how Spears put it. He said we like to guarantee our contracts on both sides. We pay you what you sign for no matter what, if you leave for another job before the end of the deal you pay us. Seemed that was a sticking point for Huff because it made him somewhat less attractive to P4's. Although, it seems to be a fairly common practice for small schools.

 

[marshallsig]

It's funny because MU (and wvu to a lesser degree) have seen what real life looks like...so they hire Gibson. Alright, he may do well, I hope so, but it seems like they took the local guy because they don't want to keep routinely being reminded of how little they matter in the world.

Guess MU would rather not be a stepping stone, despite all the fans accepting that's exactly what MU is, and it being the model for success (see 2024 SBC Champions, Marshall)...in exchange for someone who (as MU fans have constantly complained about) has never been a HC, coming from a P5 program, essentially downgrading his reach, budget, and resources in general...all the stuff they tried to distance themselves from.

But gee golly darn he's from WV!!! The Good 'ole Boy Network is back online!!!

You do get that Huff was not a HC coming in either. That Gibson’s coaching resume is stronger than Huffs when he started.

 

[raleighherdfan]

If MU is a "stepping stone" then we are not very good at it, considering the last coach to leave here for a step up job left in 1995.

This fan base is already fractured.

On one side are the anti Gibson losers. Divided into several factions. The WVU haters, who, egged on by Dickrod being back in the Land of Spam, will hate on Coach (who went to Glenville State, BTW) for his past associations with WV's junior university. And supporters of the cabal. The cabal who went around the AD and hired the bozo CH, a person who the current AD said "was looking for a new job when I got here", a guy who, properly vetted by an actual AD, would have never been hired, and these cabal supporters won't ADMIT THEY WERE WRONG. And those with WV inferiority complex. He is actually from WV, how can he possibly be any good. Lets get us some smart flatlander.

On the other side are the Marshall fans. We understand what a rebuilding job Coach has been given, handicapped by the perception that .600 actually accomplished something on his way out the door other than dodge all the good teams, and we support him 100%.

 

[Herd Insider]

Gibby is 53 and a defensive coordinator. The last time we hired a 53-year old defensive coordinator, things didn’t turn out too bad. Have faith. Go Herd!

 

[YouHerdMe]

When he said he was going to hire WV guys it gave me anxiety about Legg. Lol

Ssshhhhh, don't speak that name or you'll summon him.

 

[Herdguy04]

You do get that Huff was not a HC coming in either. That Gibson’s coaching resume is stronger than Huffs when he started.

I am aware...it's what people complained about when Huff would lose a game.

 

[caliherd]

The last coach we had that wasn't a stepping stone, how many conference championships did he win? Same amount? How many times did he have us ranked? More than Huff? If the 12 team playoff had existed in 2014, would we have been one play from a playoff berth?

I understand what you're saying, and it's one reason I liked the Huff hire initially. I'm not even saying you're wrong. But I think you are discounting the Doc years. At the end it was rough... but he had some highs too. That 2014 year was special. Just like 2024 was special. The problem with a stepping stone candidate is that after their special season they're always going to leave.

I’m sorry to be the bearer of bad news but if Gibson wins the conference a couple of times he will be gone too. The only reason Doc stayed 11 was NOT due to him not using Marshall as a steppingstone but was due to nobody pursuing him. Marshall will never be a destination school when it comes to football or basketball.

My biggest issue that I have with Coach Huff is how he behaved during his time after his accepting the Southern Miss job and after he left. But I don’t care that he didn’t love wv or Huntington. I don’t care that he was looking to get out of Huntington the minute he got here. He put together some good teams, beat Va Tech beat Notre Dame and won a conference championship his 4th season. So obviously his lack of commitment to Marshall did not affect him coaching the team.

Honestly I hate the whole I’ll be here forever press conference only to be followed up a couple of years later with the uh forget what I said. I’m fully aware of Marshalls place in the football coaching hierarchy but I’m totally content with a coach coming in winning some Sunbelt championships and then getting another job somewhere else. I understand it’s the way it works when you are a Marshall.