Herdmeister

[herdalicious]

1) The style of play is entertaining
2) The use of WV-born and other local players adds to the fun
3) Marshall's success in basketball over the years has been rare, and fleeting when it manifested

I'm not crazy about DD - he strikes me as being a bit full of himself - but he hasn't been the complete disaster I expected when his brother pulled the bait-and-switch on Mike Hamrick. I've largely enjoyed watching Marshall play throughout his run so far, even when the results weren't that great. I wouldn't mind if we adopted this philosophy going forward, and replaced DD with a coach who would continue it. Aside from using runners to sneak cash to high profile prospects, I'm not sure what level of success even the best coach could achieve at Marshall anyway.

 

[HucksHerd]

Boy, that's the second time tonight I have heard the line "do I know you well enough for you to be a". Must be high school night at Herdnation. But, anyway let me address some of your 50's style allegations and innuendos.

Wooden Nickels? Not in this century.
Dump of a Trailer? Seriously? My dump is dam near 7 digits, and LA taxes are killing me every half.

Danny is also 102-71 (.696 winning percentage) - You better go tell ESPN and Wiki they are wrong cause they have him at 113–92 (.551)

Dan D'Antoni - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

How 'bout? What are you Canadian? Herrion I don't know about, but Freeman coached at Miami after MU (the real one) and now I think he is selling insurance or something totally out of the game. Rumor is he is looking for his long lost brother to ride his shirt tail to the next gig.

"Johns, I'm sure you know more than a D'Antoni about basketball and that you would put in a wicked 5-pass offense from the Hickory Hoosiers, Wooden's full court press, and Dean Smith's defense from the video tapes you bought on line with lunch money from your mom"

Boy, your geriatric ass likes making comments about peoples family members. Why don't you direct comments to me?

NCAA Banner in the rafters from exactly ONE coach since 1987. About time right? Maybe, the stars lined up and it was just our time. How was the follow up years? I know.. we won a pay to play, when some thought we were on our way to the final four.

Now if you want to continue talking your trash, we can take it to Pullman. Raoul and Rifle are on a roll tonight.

Might be old school... but facts are facts. That's all that my initial post included and then you decided to be cute and start calling people Mrs. D. because you are so busy carrying a Doc Holiday cross that your myopathy wont let you consider the fact that maybe... just maybe... Danny D could be a good coach. Please make note that I used the word "good" not "great" - you've got your opinion - I've got mine. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, as I am done spending energy engaging you on this topic.

For future reference, if you heard "do I know you well enough for you to be a " more than once in a day - you probably are the d!ck that people think you are. Might be time for a good self-help book - and feel free to go hang out in Pullman anytime you want - I'm sure you make friends there! And for the record... I hope you pay an absolute boatload of taxes on your 900 square foot LA mansion. I'm sure all the granolas will find a great way to spend your money.

 

[The Real SamC]

I really don't get this thread at all. We make ourselves look bad when we discuss basketball.

Personally, I have no inside knowledge of the basketball situation, but, based on previous season, expect mediocrity. But, all this delusion. MU is not a top 25 program in basketball, and never will be. We are just another team in a one-bid football centric league where a number of programs make only a token basketball effort. DD is a nice guy, and talks a good game, but has produced a mediocre result with one lucky week tossed in. He is fine. Its OK. His predecessors for 30 years were either one-year wonders who caught the first train to bigger places, or abject failures.

But we look like WVU fans when we say stuff about unrealistic season expectations and about our coach being more than some random guy. Marshall fans USED to be better than that. We used to laugh at the Spamies as their August or November national championships turned into December bowl losses and quick eliminations in March; and when Nehlen, or Catlett, or Huggins, or whoever were presented as "super genius" coaches plucked right out of the hands of Kentucky or Alabama or whatever. Now we do the same laughable things. It is sad really.

 

[Pioneer_PA]

I really don't get this thread at all. We make ourselves look bad when we discuss basketball.

Personally, I have no inside knowledge of the basketball situation, but, based on previous season, expect mediocrity. But, all this delusion. MU is not a top 25 program in basketball, and never will be. We are just another team in a one-bid football centric league where a number of programs make only a token basketball effort. DD is a nice guy, and talks a good game, but has produced a mediocre result with one lucky week tossed in. He is fine. Its OK. His predecessors for 30 years were either one-year wonders who caught the first train to bigger places, or abject failures.

But we look like WVU fans when we say stuff about unrealistic season expectations and about our coach being more than some random guy. Marshall fans USED to be better than that. We used to laugh at the Spamies as their August or November national championships turned into December bowl losses and quick eliminations in March; and when Nehlen, or Catlett, or Huggins, or whoever were presented as "super genius" coaches plucked right out of the hands of Kentucky or Alabama or whatever. Now we do the same laughable things. It is sad really.

you lost me at “football-centric league.”

Should have been a 2-bid league three years ago. No reason MTSU was left out. All MTSU could do was be the best that it could be. They were in the Top 25 when Marshall beat them on Senior Night in Murfreesboro. They lost in opening round of CUSA in an upset and the NCAA snubbed them.

The league has been traditionally more competitive in basketball than football, especially outside of the league. WKU is as talented of a team as there is in a league of this caliber. They just haven’t gelled that talent into a season long run.

I realize you are disappointed in Marshall’s results vs. P5 teams. We all are. But to deny the program being in a MUCH better place than it was just 5 years ago would be ludicrous.

No one runs roughshod through this league in basketball anymore. Once MTSU’s coach left (directly due to the 17-18 NCAA snub), there have been a few teams consistently in the top 4 in the league. While Marshall has only earned the bye once, you can not deny that last season’s team improved dramatically as the season progressed.

I’ll never understand the inability to appreciate those things. The attendance, pre-COVID obviously, is a good benchmark for fan happiness as a whole. Your arguments (good, flawed, or whatever) will not change that.

 

[HucksHerd]

CBSSports take on Herd Baskteball... 146 - behind Charlotte (145), Delaware (144), George Mason (143), Chattanooga (142), Akron (141) and ETSU (140). Here is their analysis:

146. Almost the entire team returns from a middle-of-the-road C-USA squad. The second fastest team on offense in the sport (14.8 seconds average shot clock usage)

I hate the hell out of some of those teams right ahead of us. Still have the game basketball from when we beat ETSU on the road in that Hell Dome in 1995. "Accidently" ended up in my travel bag. And Round House - enough said... hate that place too!

 

[Josh Stowers]

Silly me, I always thought it was tougher to beat out 341 scools than 130. Excuse me for getting my math wrong.

It has nothing to do with math. You can literally lose every game in the regular season, win your conference tournament, and play for a chance to win the national championship.

 

[johns1124]

Almost the entire team returns from a middle-of-the-road C-USA squad. The second fastest team on offense in the sport (14.8 seconds average shot clock usage)

Yes its called Huck and Chuck, Street Ball. Bring the ball down and toss it up and see what happens. Forget the rebounding.

 

[muthed]

Sam, since you "have no inside knowledge" of the basketball situation, I would suggest you stop commenting on it.

 

[GoHerdMarshallYes]

you lost me at “football-centric league.”

Should have been a 2-bid league three years ago. No reason MTSU was left out. All MTSU could do was be the best that it could be. They were in the Top 25 when Marshall beat them on Senior Night in Murfreesboro. They lost in opening round of CUSA in an upset and the NCAA snubbed them.

The league has been traditionally more competitive in basketball than football, especially outside of the league. WKU is as talented of a team as there is in a league of this caliber. They just haven’t gelled that talent into a season long run.

I realize you are disappointed in Marshall’s results vs. P5 teams. We all are. But to deny the program being in a MUCH better place than it was just 5 years ago would be ludicrous.

No one runs roughshod through this league in basketball anymore. Once MTSU’s coach left (directly due to the 17-18 NCAA snub), there have been a few teams consistently in the top 4 in the league. While Marshall has only earned the bye once, you can not deny that last season’s team improved dramatically as the season progressed.

I’ll never understand the inability to appreciate those things. The attendance, pre-COVID obviously, is a good benchmark for fan happiness as a whole. Your arguments (good, flawed, or whatever) will not change that.

Wait, when did we ignore wins and conference titles and focus exclusively on how a team "looks"?
At this point, DD would be on the chopping block because 2019/2020 for him was 2016 for Doc.
I won't speculate about the tournament because of COVID, but a 17-15 (10-8) record, doesn't really tell much in terms of improvement.

Traditionally more competitive? Sure, when Louisville, Memphis, and Cincy were in it.
Now?
Its about as competitive as football, and football is awful by everyone's view...much like football, the same 4 or so teams compete in basketball and the rest are trash.

I do agree that MTSU was unjustly snubbed by the NCAA. I do agree that CUSA that year, should have been a 2 bid conference.
But since then? If a team got lucky and beat Memphis, would be about the only time CUSA got 2 bids, and Memphis has been gone for a while.

 

[oldeherd]

CBSSports take on Herd Baskteball... 146 - behind Charlotte (145), Delaware (144), George Mason (143), Chattanooga (142), Akron (141) and ETSU (140). Here is their analysis:

146. Almost the entire team returns from a middle-of-the-road C-USA squad. The second fastest team on offense in the sport (14.8 seconds average shot clock usage)

I hate the hell out of some of those teams right ahead of us. Still have the game basketball from when we beat ETSU on the road in that Hell Dome in 1995. "Accidently" ended up in my travel bag. And Round House - enough said... hate that place too!

No reason to "hate", IMO, most of those teams cited, just because most of them have achieved in basketball what MU has not: reached a level of success in the sport and sustained it for several seasons in a row. ETSU, well since the HERD was last in the NCAA tourney during Huck's tenure until Danny's squad, the BUCS under several coaches, have made SEVERAL tourney appearances. Last year's team won 30+ games and probably would have been in the Tourney and would have been seated as high or higher than whomever CUSA's representative might have been. Their Coach, Steve Forbes, now the head man at Wake Forest averaged close to 25 wins a season at ETSU, came there after Danny D. came to MU, and had wins ON THE ROAD at Major schools like Miss. State at LSU.

UTC is usually one of the SO CON's better teams, but not the perennial power and winner where they were in our SO CON days back when Murray Arnold was the MOCS coach. As for the Roundhouse, at least UTC's leadership had the smarts to build a quality, 10,000 seat free standing arena instead of a shoddy, architectural ClusterF@*k of a facility like the CAM crudely attached to Gullickson Hall that MU "leaders" came up with.

Akron? Well, they had sustained success, multiple 20 plus wins seasons, and post season tourney appearances under Keith Dambrot, who now is head man at Duquesne. George Mason had good success under Jim Larranaga, now HC at Miami , FL. Oh, yes, they made it to the Final 4 under Larranaga, so maybe when the HERD starts making REGULAR appearances in the Sweet 16 or Elite 8, we can start looking down at the Patriots' program.

So, to sum up, until the day comes when Marshall's basketball program starts cranking out 20+ wins a season year after year; starting making NCAA and/or NIT post season appearances regularly instead of once every 3 or 4 decades; and defeats "name" Major foes on a somewhat regular or even occasional basis, instead of "very rarely", then MU fans have little real reason to "hate" other programs who have achieved such goals, or at least come very close to doing so!

 

[Pioneer_PA]

Wait, when did we ignore wins and conference titles and focus exclusively on how a team "looks"?
At this point, DD would be on the chopping block because 2019/2020 for him was 2016 for Doc.
I won't speculate about the tournament because of COVID, but a 17-15 (10-8) record, doesn't really tell much in terms of improvement.

Traditionally more competitive? Sure, when Louisville, Memphis, and Cincy were in it.
Now?
Its about as competitive as football, and football is awful by everyone's view...much like football, the same 4 or so teams compete in basketball and the rest are trash.

I do agree that MTSU was unjustly snubbed by the NCAA. I do agree that CUSA that year, should have been a 2 bid conference.
But since then? If a team got lucky and beat Memphis, would be about the only time CUSA got 2 bids, and Memphis has been gone for a while.

Last season, after losing 2 of the top 5 scorers in program history, Marshall was 17-15. Went 7-2 last 9 games, including a win over Louisiana Tech.

The team was much more competitive in losses than the prior year outside of the one debacle at home against Toledo. Lost by 10 at Notre Dame, 6 at Florida, and 8 at Northern Iowa. UNI was 25-6 last season and unbeaten at home.

The only league game that was not competitive was at FAU. Marshall beat them in the return game so obviously something changed there, right?

The team shot an abysmal 31.3% from three and just 66.3% at the FT line.

In 5 fewer games, the team took nearly 300 fewer 3’s last season. Far from simply chucking the ball at the rim.

As for the league, WKU beat Arkansas, UTEP beat New Mexico, Louisiana Tech beat Mississippi State, Charlotte beat Davidson and Wake Forest. While none of those are worth writing home about, that was in what we can all agree was a down year within the league.

Hopefully CUSA is better this year as a whole. We shall see.

 

[GoHerdMarshallYes]

Last season, after losing 2 of the top 5 scorers in program history, Marshall was 17-15. Went 7-2 last 9 games, including a win over Louisiana Tech.

The team was much more competitive in losses than the prior year outside of the one debacle at home against Toledo. Lost by 10 at Notre Dame, 6 at Florida, and 8 at Northern Iowa. UNI was 25-6 last season and unbeaten at home.

The only league game that was not competitive was at FAU. Marshall beat them in the return game so obviously something changed there, right?

The team shot an abysmal 31.3% from three and just 66.3% at the FT line.

In 5 fewer games, the team took nearly 300 fewer 3’s last season. Far from simply chucking the ball at the rim.

As for the league, WKU beat Arkansas, UTEP beat New Mexico, Louisiana Tech beat Mississippi State, Charlotte beat Davidson and Wake Forest. While none of those are worth writing home about, that was in what we can all agree was a down year within the league.

Hopefully CUSA is better this year as a whole. We shall see.

You could say the same thing about football and people would simply say,
"Finished tied for 3rd in division. No conference title."

In the format with basketball, "1 title in 6 years, no NCAA appearance. Woefully mediocre, and we'll continue to be mediocre for ages. MU can't beat any P5 teams. We can't score when we need to. Dan makes terrible calls and no adjustments in game...Fire him!!!"

Face it, you don't hold MBB to the same standards as MUFB, and you probably should hold MBB to higher standards since Dan actually talks a big talk, his media presence is great, but he has to back himself up, and comes up short minus 1 season.
Instead, you continue to invent ways to give Dan a pass, and yeah, he should get one now and then, but once Doc won 2014, it was CUSA title games or bust.
Once Dan won 2016, it was, "Well...he can't win 'em all...but look at these meaningless observations that try to soften the losses we took."
But, on the flipside, then hold Doc to the same standards of Dan, and use the same meaningless observations to soften the blow of a loss...but that would mean y'all can't use your favorite word, "mediocre" to describe a 2 loss MU football team.
Oh, and you'd have to stop with the "1 title in 10 years" talk too.

 

[The Real SamC]

you lost me at “football-centric league.”

This is a league formed for one reason. Football. Schools all wanting to play football at a certain level. Each school brought with it basketball, and their other sports, at vastly different levels of commitment, history, and interest. MU, IMHO, is in the upper group. But it is delusion to think that the bottom CUSAites give a flying flip about basketball.

You honestly think that, in a world with no football, MU would be in a league that stretches from west Texas to south Florida to the Virginia tidewater? Laughable. A league that exists for one sport. Football.

Should have been a 2-bid league three years ago. No reason MTSU was left out. All MTSU could do was be the best that it could be. They were in the Top 25 when Marshall beat them on Senior Night in Murfreesboro. They lost in opening round of CUSA in an upset and the NCAA snubbed them.

Shoulda coulda woulda.

Reality? A ONE-BID league, max seed possibility about 11th. Never making it out of the first weekend. A forgotten footnote.

The league has been traditionally more competitive in basketball than football, especially outside of the league. WKU is as talented of a team as there is in a league of this caliber. They just haven’t gelled that talent into a season long run.

Nope. In football, CUSA is one of only 10 leagues, and MU is one of 125 or so programs. SUPER competitive just in that fact alone. Plenty of bowl wins, national attention. In basketball, CUSA is a one-bid league that has never (with its current members) done anything of interest outside our little community. One of over 30 leagues and more than 350 programs. A speck.

I realize you are disappointed in Marshall’s results vs. P5 teams. We all are. But to deny the program being in a MUCH better place than it was just 5 years ago would be ludicrous.

Since P5 is a football term, I'm really happy about our record vs them. If you mean P5 football schools' basketball programs, then we really are kidding ourselves by playing them, other than just to get a check.

As to where this team is, of course it is better than five years ago. DD is mediocre. The team is mediocre. The previous coaches, back for decades, were failures. DD is doing a fine job. We are mediocre.

No one runs roughshod through this league in basketball anymore. Once MTSU’s coach left (directly due to the 17-18 NCAA snub), there have been a few teams consistently in the top 4 in the league. While Marshall has only earned the bye once, you can not deny that last season’s team improved dramatically as the season progressed.

Last year's team did improve. It won about 2 out of 3 games during the last month, to pull up to a .500 record vs Div I teams and a mid pack finish in CUSA. In other words, mediocre.

I’ll never understand the inability to appreciate those things. The attendance, pre-COVID obviously, is a good benchmark for fan happiness as a whole. Your arguments (good, flawed, or whatever) will not change that.

Of course, fans turn out for MU basketball. Which is why we are among the upper group in this football centric league. Some programs in this football league could be 25-0 and not draw 1000 people, not that they ever would be that because of their low commitment to the sport in the first place. MU fans have suffered under total failure coaches for decades. Now we have a .551 coach. Mediocre. We have maybe a 50-50 shot at winning a game if you go see it, which is way better than the previous three decades. Huntington people turn out to see that. Because we are mediocre.

 

[TwolfHerdfan]

This is a league formed for one reason. Football. Schools all wanting to play football at a certain level. Each school brought with it basketball, and their other sports, at vastly different levels of commitment, history, and interest. MU, IMHO, is in the upper group. But it is delusion to think that the bottom CUSAites give a flying flip about basketball.

You honestly think that, in a world with no football, MU would be in a league that stretches from west Texas to south Florida to the Virginia tidewater? Laughable. A league that exists for one sport. Football.



Shoulda coulda woulda.

Reality? A ONE-BID league, max seed possibility about 11th. Never making it out of the first weekend. A forgotten footnote.



Nope. In football, CUSA is one of only 10 leagues, and MU is one of 125 or so programs. SUPER competitive just in that fact alone. Plenty of bowl wins, national attention. In basketball, CUSA is a one-bid league that has never (with its current members) done anything of interest outside our little community. One of over 30 leagues and more than 350 programs. A speck.



Since P5 is a football term, I'm really happy about our record vs them. If you mean P5 football schools' basketball programs, then we really are kidding ourselves by playing them, other than just to get a check.

As to where this team is, of course it is better than five years ago. DD is mediocre. The team is mediocre. The previous coaches, back for decades, were failures. DD is doing a fine job. We are mediocre.



Last year's team did improve. It won about 2 out of 3 games during the last month, to pull up to a .500 record vs Div I teams and a mid pack finish in CUSA. In other words, mediocre.



Of course, fans turn out for MU basketball. Which is why we are among the upper group in this football centric league. Some programs in this football league could be 25-0 and not draw 1000 people, not that they ever would be that because of their low commitment to the sport in the first place. MU fans have suffered under total failure coaches for decades. Now we have a .551 coach. Mediocre. We have maybe a 50-50 shot at winning a game if you go see it, which is way better than the previous three decades. Huntington people turn out to see that. Because we are mediocre.

Interesting that when expanding, the league chose two schools in ODU and UNCC known more for their basketball prowess than football. Maybe it was their markets, which again, the league mistakenly over estimated their influence.

 

[The Real SamC]

Interesting that when expanding, the league chose two schools in ODU and UNCC known more for their basketball prowess than football. Maybe it was their markets, which again, the league mistakenly over estimated their influence.

True. While CUSA exists for football, and football only, I would put ODU and UNCC, along with us, UAB, Western and Middle in the group that seems to have the most commitment to basketball. We all know about many of the bottom CUSA teams, playing in glorified gyms before a handful of students with nothing else to do.

As to "over estimated their influence", of course. We told ourselves the same lie that THE AMERICAN!!!!!!!!! tells itself and the world. That being in a place and being significant in a place are the same thing. They are not. If you surveyed people in CLT or in the 757, I doubt either team would be in the top 10 in popularity.

 

[GoHerdMarshallYes]

'In basketball, CUSA is a one-bid league that has never (with its current members) done anything of interest outside our little community. One of over 30 leagues and more than 350 programs. A speck.'

I will disagree on the basis that CUSA teams, actually have overplayed their seeds, at least in the first round.
MU knocked out Wichita State.
MTSU knocked out tournament favorite Michigan State.
I believe there's one more in there somewhere.

But beyond that, I agree.

 

[GoHerdMarshallYes]

Interesting that when expanding, the league chose two schools in ODU and UNCC known more for their basketball prowess than football. Maybe it was their markets, which again, the league mistakenly over estimated their influence.

I think some of it was to get selected to D1 football status and once "in" they've coasted ever since.

 

[GoHerdMarshallYes]

True. While CUSA exists for football, and football only, I would put ODU and UNCC, along with us, UAB, Western and Middle in the group that seems to have the most commitment to basketball. We all know about many of the bottom CUSA teams, playing in glorified gyms before a handful of students with nothing else to do.

As to "over estimated their influence", of course. We told ourselves the same lie that THE AMERICAN!!!!!!!!! tells itself and the world. That being in a place and being significant in a place are the same thing. They are not. If you surveyed people in CLT or in the 757, I doubt either team would be in the top 10 in popularity.

Just couldn't go a thread without mentioning, "THE AMERICAN!!!!!!!!!" Could you?

 

[GoHerdMarshallYes]

True. While CUSA exists for football, and football only, I would put ODU and UNCC, along with us, UAB, Western and Middle in the group that seems to have the most commitment to basketball. We all know about many of the bottom CUSA teams, playing in glorified gyms before a handful of students with nothing else to do.

As to "over estimated their influence", of course. We told ourselves the same lie that THE AMERICAN!!!!!!!!! tells itself and the world. That being in a place and being significant in a place are the same thing. They are not. If you surveyed people in CLT or in the 757, I doubt either team would be in the top 10 in popularity.

Thing is, "commitment" is defined in multiple ways by multiple schools. Also multiple programs.
MU seems to have committed in hiring DD, but also committing to accepting MU hasn't produced more titles/wins.

MU fans and the program are committed to DD himself, which is why he's still here and so beloved. They are willing to ignore the lack of wins/titles in exchange for someone who is generally a good guy and a good teacher of the game.

But would DD have a job with a program committed to winning games?

 

[HerdonMU]

Man....usually insurance coverage is about 5 pucks per prescription, Sometimes 10. Take a pill and chill out. Fun times for Herd fans. I get on here and afterwards look at CVS hours to refill. You all need to chill. I'm a happy man. I take my weekends off and enjoy things in life. One enjoyment is Herdfans, Damn......

 

[Pioneer_PA]

This is a league formed for one reason. Football. Schools all wanting to play football at a certain level. Each school brought with it basketball, and their other sports, at vastly different levels of commitment, history, and interest. MU, IMHO, is in the upper group. But it is delusion to think that the bottom CUSAites give a flying flip about basketball.

You honestly think that, in a world with no football, MU would be in a league that stretches from west Texas to south Florida to the Virginia tidewater? Laughable. A league that exists for one sport. Football.



Shoulda coulda woulda.

Reality? A ONE-BID league, max seed possibility about 11th. Never making it out of the first weekend. A forgotten footnote.



Nope. In football, CUSA is one of only 10 leagues, and MU is one of 125 or so programs. SUPER competitive just in that fact alone. Plenty of bowl wins, national attention. In basketball, CUSA is a one-bid league that has never (with its current members) done anything of interest outside our little community. One of over 30 leagues and more than 350 programs. A speck.



Since P5 is a football term, I'm really happy about our record vs them. If you mean P5 football schools' basketball programs, then we really are kidding ourselves by playing them, other than just to get a check.

As to where this team is, of course it is better than five years ago. DD is mediocre. The team is mediocre. The previous coaches, back for decades, were failures. DD is doing a fine job. We are mediocre.



Last year's team did improve. It won about 2 out of 3 games during the last month, to pull up to a .500 record vs Div I teams and a mid pack finish in CUSA. In other words, mediocre.



Of course, fans turn out for MU basketball. Which is why we are among the upper group in this football centric league. Some programs in this football league could be 25-0 and not draw 1000 people, not that they ever would be that because of their low commitment to the sport in the first place. MU fans have suffered under total failure coaches for decades. Now we have a .551 coach. Mediocre. We have maybe a 50-50 shot at winning a game if you go see it, which is way better than the previous three decades. Huntington people turn out to see that. Because we are mediocre.

The past four years, Marshall basketball is 85-55, which is .607. This shows me an upward trend. The recruiting classes have improved, too. I chose the past four years since, obviously, they’re the most recent. That would include a full recruiting class, except Marshall had zero seniors last year. That’s just how it worked out. There were too many recruiting misses from 2016-2018. I’ll gladly admit that. I won’t call it failure. I like the guys that are on the team right now.

We can agree DD inherited a mess. I don’t think that’s really in question. The pieces didn’t compliment one another. I thought DD did a really good job starting with conference season in Year 2, but I excluded that simply to go through a full 4-year class.

It’s more like a 60/40 chance of winning. And fans have showed up. Again, that’s who matters in the equation. The fan base is there and cares.

Whatever you reply won’t garner a response from me today. Marshall’s undefeated, Top 15 football team plays today and deserves all of the attention.

Go Herd

 

[Weirgreen]

Hey guys... Danny D is the only coach in the history of our basketball program to win an NCAA tournament game. He posts a winning record just about every season, has gone to multiple CUSA championship games, is an alumni and a native West Virginian, a former NBA assistant coach, a legendary high school coach, and he represents the university with dignity and pride.

I am not certain exactly who the hell some people think we should have as a head coach - Phil Jackson is retired, Mike D is busy as an assistant with the Nets, Coach K has a lifetime contract with Duke, Roy Williams is busy in Chapel Hill, and John Wooden has been pushing up daisies for about 10-years now. How about just support the guy we have instead! Danny D should be the head coach of the program until he decides he's done coaching.

How quickly we forget the Dwight Freeman, Tom Herrion, and Ron Jirsa debacles. Billy, Greg and Donnie had +.550 winning percentages but no sniff of the NCAA tournament. Danny D has done both and that includes a couple of years of rebuild when we really had a weak roster, followed by consistently being competitive.

“And all the people said AMEM”