We might be booked already but I would love to see it. We have a real shot at beating them in the near future if only we were scheduled.
I would love to schedule WVU while Huff is under contract.
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I think the only way that happens is if we play up there and don’t get a return game (I’m 100% fine with this). I don’t see Hamrick doing it, since his philosophy recently has been “we aren’t scheduling you unless you give us a return game”
I am happy about Huff being our new head coach, but we need to see the results on the field first before we start making any type of projections. And, I couldnt care less if we play wvu in any sport.
Screw the eers. Dont need them in any way.
or on the rare occasion we do that, we do it at a school with a much larger stadium/attendance that will give us a bigger pay day. Like the SC game that got cancelled a couple year ago. Even if we did to 1 and done with wvu they can't pay the big pay days like an OSU or SC. It would be a money game but, we can get more money elsewhere so why go to wvu unless it's anything but a 2-1. We shouldn't and since they are in the Big 12, they shouldn't give us a 2-1 either based on how the schedule plays out.
I don't ever want to play them in any sport. Their fans ruin it foe me
Let's not put that on him before the man even gets settled in. If he wins, he's the GOAT, but if he loses this early into his time here, fans won't ever let it go.
Must've been one hell of an acceptance speech
You know something big has happened at Marshall when Stoney drops in.
Let it go. We don't need them and they don't need us. It's better that way. Hamrick has done a great job with our OOC schedules.
Maybe we should up his bonus for winning the national championship while we're at it. $1,000,000 seems kind of lean.
Play 'em "home and home" in a heartbeat but up there with no return game is an tacit acknowledgement of their self-importance and superiority. The Cousins are legends in their own minds...can't see them ever coming back to Huntington.
- Let's all see SOMETHING on the field before we crown anybody, shall we?
- WVU economics. At one time, not that long ago, WVU played (no matter what their brainwashed idiot fans will claim) before plenty of empty seats in a mid-major conference. MU filled those un-sellable seats and represented $$ to that program. Today, WVU is in the Big 2, Little 8, and gets plenty of TV $$ from the Big 2 and is selling close to its capacity. They simply do not need us.
- MU economics. MU can make vastly more $$ for a no return game versus vastly better program than Little 8 also ran WVU can or will pay us for a no return game, or what we will make from a WVU home game. We simply do not need them.
- MU and WVU will simply never play in a sport that matters again (unless you think baseball matters, whatever). Quit being fixated on them. Move on.
- WVU economics. At one time, not that long ago, WVU played (no matter what their brainwashed idiot fans will claim) before plenty of empty seats in a mid-major conference. MU filled those un-sellable seats and represented $$ to that program. Today, WVU is in the Big 2, Little 8, and gets plenty of TV $$ from the Big 2 and is selling close to its capacity. They simply do not need us.
- MU economics. MU can make vastly more $$ for a no return game versus vastly better program than Little 8 also ran WVU can or will pay us for a no return game, or what we will make from a WVU home game. We simply do not need them.
- MU and WVU will simply never play in a sport that matters again (unless you think baseball matters, whatever). Quit being fixated on them. Move on.
I imagine he’s flattered one of our posters brought them up. I’m even more flattered that he creeps around here to see what we say about them.
“Unless you think baseball matters”... I knew I didn’t like you.
it’s funny to me that you get upset at fans being excited for a new hire. Huff could go undefeated and you would claim “he did it with Doc’s players” or “he didn’t have the challenges Doc had. Doc would have gone undefeated too!”
you made your choice that you wouldn’t like the new coach before he ever was named. After all you said multiple times no one who was worth anything would want to come to Huntington... to play for the worst fans in college sports no less.
Wow.. Examples please? I for one would like to play an Oklahoma State and I am not sure who would play more money than that type of program. What a stupid statement.
I do agree though Marshall doesn't need WVU and WVU doesn't need Marshall. It is really a lose lose for both programs to play in football.
I would like to see them play in basketball each year though.
Here is a little exercise for you. Go look at stadium sizes and attendance at those stadiums all around the country. There is a reason those schools with > 80,000 seats (up to around 100,000) that are regularly sold out offer larger pay outs. (hint multiply ticket cost by seats and look at your #) Ohio State never has to leave home (out of conf) unless it's a great national match up created for TV. The P5 schools that have stadiums with 45 - 65,000 seats even if regularly sold out can't match those pay outs so they don't offer the largest pay outs and many do some 2-1 deals.
The "ruination" (if that is a word) starts with their administration over the last 20 years or so ago. I am like some others if they play us at home first and then at Morgantown it might be ok. Sadly though we are just not on their level in MOST sports at this time for various reasons. They are a very arrogant bunch in my opinion. If they lose every game I would not be upset. When one goes "north" of Charleston the attitude of many, many people that I have met is just a "better than you" attitude. I say "Let's Go Herd"!!! (my favorite team since 1965 or so).
COLLEGE baseball. Attend any MU, or for that matter, any college game other than a handful of programs (Mississippi State, LSU, Florida State, couple others) and count, or for that matter, introduce and have a meaningful conversation with everyone there, and then get back to me about just how big a deal COLLEGE baseball is.
Who says I don't like the new coach? I feel sorry for the new coach, because all of this meaningless optimism based on some catch phrases and little else will soon turn to anger unless he wins every game in a conference which the rotten super fan part of this fan base has no respect for.
He is in a no-win situation.
19MU88 pretty much explained that to you. A quick search will show that MU has had many $$ games for vastly more sums than WVU has ever paid anyone for a no returner.
So I will explain basketball. For many years, MU and WVU were on the same level in that sport. Before the series was started and for a long period within it. The game made $$ sense, as it was a stand-alone deal in Charleston, with its own TV deal, operating outside each school's season ticket package, and involving smoozing the the legislature. Then WVU began demanding excellence. MU stood pat. While I despise WVU and all it stands for, one must admire a long steady rise from just another program to second tier (don't get your panties in a wad, first tier are multi-generational championship winning programs like UK KU Duke UNC, etc) status. It is admirable.
So, today, the chances of MU E V E R even putting up even a reasonable fight against WVU, let alone actually winning, in any year are virtually non-existent. MU fans thus tire of the blow out and don't show up, and the non-alumni WVU element in Charleston buys all the tickets, which means that, in financial terms, MU is unnecessary. WVU can, and when normalcy returns (if it does) will play any random team in a Charleston appearance and draw just the same and keep all the $$ for itself.
MU and WVU play each other in baseball, and that works. While MU is way ahead with the men and WVU with the women, they could play in soccer, probably. I don't think WVU even has softball. That is it.
You make no sense to me. You PRAISE wvu for demanding more in basketball. Gale Catlett was the Doc Holiday of wvu basketball. wvu wanted better. They hired better head coaches (Beiline then Huggins). Their basketball got A LOT better. They demanded excellance as you say. We hire a young, energetic guy who has a ton of enthusiasm, charm, and is a proven recruiter (I know he won't be able to get 5 stars like he did at Alabama), and was apparently a good enough coach that Nick Saban made him Associate Coach. So many fans are excited about next season whereas they were not before. Do you STILL think it would have been better to keep Holiday rather than start anew with Charles Huff?
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I'm cautiously optimistic Huff will do a good job.
We lose all 12 games against them and demand a home game. Sounds like Marshall is showing their arrogance.
The only thing I agree with playing wvu in is basketball. And that series goes back to home and home games. Good lord those games were electric at the Cam back in the day. Moving the series to Charleston to entertain the politicians was a terrible move and that killed that electricity. (although there were a few games there that were awesome) If we were to ever play wvu again in any of the major sports, basketball would be the move I would agree with.
I guess I am not following. We want more than WVU pays for a game but we aren't willing to schedule someone who clearly is flush with money because they are in the 'little 8'? I mean Oklahoma State, Oregon, Baylor are all teams with less capacity than Ohio state or one of the high capacity stadiums but they are completely flush with money. Ok state could have zero attendance and it wouldn't affect their bottom line. I don't really understand the argument here. If WVu wont play Marshall or pay them big money thats fine, but what Sam says is incorrect and what you are saying doesn't make sense. Generally a team like Ohio state with 100K capacity has more money than Rutgers, you are correct. But there are plenty of flush teams out there who would spread the cash and that includes several in the Big 12 that are not texas or oklahoma. What a stupid statement.
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I am not a politician. I just happen to live closer to Charleston than I do Morgantown or Huntington, so I LOVED this game. I wish it was still played every year. I do agree with a comment above though, MU doesn't bring the fans to that game anymore which I think is extremely lame. I always hear the fans speaking out of one side of their mouths saying WVU is scared or this or that, but then don't show up to the games out the other side of their mouth. Sometimes you have to earn respect. I know thats a novel concept. The flip side of that is, basketball doesn't just schedule home and home like football does. I mean in all honesty WVU playing Marshall in Huntington could actually happen on it's own even if Marshall didn't go to Morgantown. I don't think that will happen under Huggins watch while DD is there (or anyone to be honest) but I could see another WVU coach doing it. There are lots of non conference games every year in basketball that are not trade off games, even for higher profile teams. I think basketball has a chance to do something in in the future for WVU and Marshall.
As far as football, I personally want football to be as local as possible. I want Marshall to play Kentucky, WVU, Ohio, Miami as their non confernece every year. I know I am dreaming but any semblance of that schedule would be useful. Same with WVU- I want them to play Pitt, Marshall, VT, (maybe Ohio) every year. Again... dreaming. But that would make things so much more interesting than playing Boise and App state and WVU playing Eastern Washington and NC State. WVU Marshall should happen in football in my opinion and I think 2/1 rotating is as fair as it gets. But thats JMO
Apples and oranges. WVU fans are delusional. You HAVE to be delusional to be a WVU fan. Learning about sports makes someone move up from WVU fandom, because they realize they are not much, never were much, and NEVER will be much.
But, anyway, WVU fans are delusional, in a good way, if you have to classify it. I can remember WVU, football and basketball, pretty far back. In a succession of ridiculous conferences. I cannot really remember the SoCon, but really? They beat VMI and Richmond, and THAT was an accomplishment? The cupcake light A-10. To today's basketball conference, which is so competitive that the same team has won it for like 20 years in a row. In football, wow. From the de facto I-AA SoCon to the pure joke eastern independents, to the mid-major Big Least, to the pure humiliation of being a Leastleftover, passed over as the good teams GTFO of the Big Least and being left behind, to being a fieldfiller in the Little 8, (and in some alternate universe, WVU in the AAC), WVU fans argue pure idiocy. That their little accomplishments are equal to what goes on in the ACC or SEC. If I had a $ for every August or October national championship WVU fans have proclaimed as certain in the two sports, I would be rich. it I can easily remember WVU fans convinced that beating Rutgers, or Temple, or Pitt, or, today, being the tallest midget in the Little 8, is the same thing as winning in big boy sports. They ACTUALLY BELIEVE that what they accomplish is significant. Delusional, but not destructive.
Contrast the rotten super fan element of this fan base. Delusion turned inward and rotten. Marshall is supposed to win because it is supposed to (the childish views of a child) combined with the rotten and, sad to say, purely ignorant, idea that nobody we play is really any good (the exact opposite view from WVU's idiot fan base, which believes everybody they play is Alabama).
I want to see MU win. I understand that the teams we play are real, significant, and important.
You do not.
Too many other teams that are equally attractive to play or willing to give us a bigger payout, pillbilly.
or a return game. see other P-5 schools with similar size stadiums and/or attendance as wvu.
that's why we had purdue, UL, and NC State in the Joan as well as Pitt planned for this past season. I'm sure our idiot hillbilly friends from up north think they are alabama or LSU but the teams I listed are more comparable with regard to our scheduling discussion and payouts/return games etc etc. it's economics 101.
Don't call me that. I lost a brother to pills. Those other teams are not even close to being a rivalry and wv is the team herd fans want to beat. Wv being arrogant just as we are, they don't respect the football program and alot of wv fans are scared of even the thought of losing to Marshall. Best of all would be beating them in Morgantown. Rifle gets a qb coaching job with the Herd he might pull some strings and get that game scheduled. Wv has chicken shit fans too about THE game. U guys sound like presidents of colleges talking about money. Money money forget rivalries and sold out games in wv
Wvu should absolutely drop penn state bama Virginia tech pitt or maryland and replace with Marshall
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