If you can't see what is going on in this country, on boths sides, then are a blinded fool.

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I am asking you if that is what you are saying??? Clarification please.

YES.
As of January 2023, Tom Blanton, director of the independent nongovernmental organization the National Security Archive, confirmed with Snopes that the 2009 executive order was still in effect, and that the vice president was an "original classification authority" in the sense that the elected official could, while still in office, declassify any federal document, including ones that other people have designated classified.

Kel McClanahan, executive director of National Security Counselors, a public-interest law firm told us that "The vice president can decide to classify a CIA, NSA, or USDA document on the spot in the same way that any other [original classification authority] can." And all original classification authorities have "inherent declassification authority."

 

[extragreen]

You are a moron

Evidently you couldn't find a 4th grader.

 

[i am herdman]

18 U.S. Code § 1924 - Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material​

Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than five years, or both.

So Joe Mush Biden broke a law as a Senator.

 

[i am herdman]

YES.
As of January 2023, Tom Blanton, director of the independent nongovernmental organization the National Security Archive, confirmed with Snopes that the 2009 executive order was still in effect, and that the vice president was an "original classification authority" in the sense that the elected official could, while still in office, declassify any federal document, including ones that other people have designated classified.

Kel McClanahan, executive director of National Security Counselors, a public-interest law firm told us that "The vice president can decide to classify a CIA, NSA, or USDA document on the spot in the same way that any other [original classification authority] can." And all original classification authorities have "inherent declassification authority."

Hahahaa nice try.

 

[extragreen]

So Joe Mush Biden broke a law as a Senator.

So, you just resort to lying.

 

[extragreen]

Hahahaa nice try.

Yes it was. I proved you didn't know what you were talking about. Again.

 

[i am herdman]

Yes it was. I proved you didn't know what you were talking about. Again.

So, you assert that a VP has the same power as a President? A VP can declassify anything in regards to the US govt? Hey moron, you forget supervisory authority. The VP is not considered a supervisory official. So, yehh the narritive is wrong. You and everyone that spouts that nonsense are missing that point.

The VP is not in the chain of command of supervisory authority. The President js.

Plain and simple, the VP does not have the powers of a President.

Reality #6: Vice-Presidential Declassification Authority is Very Limited​

Finally, due to the discovery of classified records at Biden’s home and personal residence from his time as vice president, and similar revelations involving Mike Pence, there has also been discussion about vice presidential declassification authority. The vice president does have declassification authority, but it is quite limited. Under Executive Order 13526, the vice president has original classification authority, which means they may also declassify information that they or their predecessor originally classified. However, as a practical matter, the vice president – like the president – originally classifies little, if any, information, rendering this declassification authority mostly moot. The only argument that the vice president has declassification authority beyond this would rest on distinct declassification authority provided for certain “supervisory officials.” But as a general matter, the vice president is not considered a supervisory official of other executive branch officials, so this broader declassification authority does not apply to the vice president.

Dispelling Myths: How Classification and Declassification Actually Work

Must the president follow any specific procedures when declassifying government information? The answer is a resounding no.

www.justsecurity.org

 

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So, you assert that a VP has the same power as a President? A VP can declassify anything in regards to the US govt? Hey moron, you forget supervisory authority. The VP is not considered a supervisory official. So, yehh the narritive is wrong. You and everyone that spouts that nonsense are missing that point.

The VP is not in the chain of command of supervisory authority. The President js.

Plain and simple, the VP does not have the powers of a President.

Reality #6: Vice-Presidential Declassification Authority is Very Limited​

Finally, due to the discovery of classified records at Biden’s home and personal residence from his time as vice president, and similar revelations involving Mike Pence, there has also been discussion about vice presidential declassification authority. The vice president does have declassification authority, but it is quite limited. Under Executive Order 13526, the vice president has original classification authority, which means they may also declassify information that they or their predecessor originally classified. However, as a practical matter, the vice president – like the president – originally classifies little, if any, information, rendering this declassification authority mostly moot. The only argument that the vice president has declassification authority beyond this would rest on distinct declassification authority provided for certain “supervisory officials.” But as a general matter, the vice president is not considered a supervisory official of other executive branch officials, so this broader declassification authority does not apply to the vice president.

Dispelling Myths: How Classification and Declassification Actually Work

Must the president follow any specific procedures when declassifying government information? The answer is a resounding no.

www.justsecurity.org

As of January 2023, Tom Blanton, director of the independent nongovernmental organization the National Security Archive, confirmed with Snopes that the 2009 executive order was still in effect, and that the vice president was an "original classification authority" in the sense that the elected official could, while still in office, declassify any federal document, including ones that other people have designated classified.

Kel McClanahan, executive director of National Security Counselors, a public-interest law firm told us that "The vice president can decide to classify a CIA, NSA, or USDA document on the spot in the same way that any other [original classification authority] can." And all original classification authorities have "inherent declassification authority."

He added: "[...] the president has the power to declassify anything he wants, period, and as a matter of practice in the intelligence community, everyone treats the [vice president] as having the same power derived from the presidential authority unless the president specifically says "no the [vice president] does not have declassification authority outside of information he created," which has never happened."

 

[i am herdman]

As of January 2023, Tom Blanton, director of the independent nongovernmental organization the National Security Archive, confirmed with Snopes that the 2009 executive order was still in effect, and that the vice president was an "original classification authority" in the sense that the elected official could, while still in office, declassify any federal document, including ones that other people have designated classified.

Kel McClanahan, executive director of National Security Counselors, a public-interest law firm told us that "The vice president can decide to classify a CIA, NSA, or USDA document on the spot in the same way that any other [original classification authority] can." And all original classification authorities have "inherent declassification authority."

He added: "[...] the president has the power to declassify anything he wants, period, and as a matter of practice in the intelligence community, everyone treats the [vice president] as having the same power derived from the presidential authority unless the president specifically says "no the [vice president] does not have declassification authority outside of information he created," which has never happened."

The VP is not in direct supervisory authority. We have a constituion and charters for a reason. The VP clearly does not have the same authority as a President. A Senator clearly does not, not even a question and removing items from a secure area is a big no no.

The charter/code is very clear stating supervisory function of which the VP does not.

 

[extragreen]

As of January 2023, Tom Blanton, director of the independent nongovernmental organization the National Security Archive, confirmed with Snopes that the 2009 executive order was still in effect, and that the vice president was an "original classification authority" in the sense that the elected official could, while still in office, declassify any federal document, including ones that other people have designated classified.

Kel McClanahan, executive director of National Security Counselors, a public-interest law firm told us that "The vice president can decide to classify a CIA, NSA, or USDA document on the spot in the same way that any other [original classification authority] can." And all original classification authorities have "inherent declassification authority."

He added: "[...] the president has the power to declassify anything he wants, period, and as a matter of practice in the intelligence community, everyone treats the [vice president] as having the same power derived from the presidential authority unless the president specifically says "no the [vice president] does not have declassification authority outside of information he created," which has never happened."

 

[i am herdman]

As of January 2023, Tom Blanton, director of the independent nongovernmental organization the National Security Archive, confirmed with Snopes that the 2009 executive order was still in effect, and that the vice president was an "original classification authority" in the sense that the elected official could, while still in office, declassify any federal document, including ones that other people have designated classified.

Kel McClanahan, executive director of National Security Counselors, a public-interest law firm told us that "The vice president can decide to classify a CIA, NSA, or USDA document on the spot in the same way that any other [original classification authority] can." And all original classification authorities have "inherent declassification authority."

He added: "[...] the president has the power to declassify anything he wants, period, and as a matter of practice in the intelligence community, everyone treats the [vice president] as having the same power derived from the presidential authority unless the president specifically says "no the [vice president] does not have declassification authority outside of information he created," which has never happened."

You are ignoring my post. It is explained how the VP does not have the same authority or supervisory role. But, you play your game.

 

[extragreen]

You are ignoring my post. It is explained how the VP does not have the same authority or supervisory role. But, you play your game.

as a matter of practice in the intelligence community, everyone treats the [vice president] as having the same power derived from the presidential authority unless the president specifically says "no the [vice president] does not have declassification authority outside of information he created," which has never happened."