i figured greed, oldie, or that cali-trans herd/hokie would bring this up since they're great believers in the truth, party be damned.
EDIT: myeh, just saw @i am herdman's thread below. saw "ukraine" and skipped over it. doh.
EDIT: myeh, just saw @i am herdman's thread below. saw "ukraine" and skipped over it. doh.