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Is China Cracking First?

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China lodges a tariff case against the US at the WTO
PUBLISHED MON, SEP 2 2019 9:58 AM EDT UPDATED MON, SEP 2 2019 7:59 PM EDT

China has lodged a complaint against the United States at the World Trade Organization over U.S. import duties, the Chinese Commerce Ministry said on Monday.

The United States began imposing 15% tariffs on a variety of Chinese goods on Sunday and China began imposing new duties on U.S. crude oil, the latest escalation in their trade war.


China did not release details of its legal case but said the U.S. tariffs affected $300 billion of Chinese exports.

The latest tariff actions violated the consensus reached by leaders of China and the United States in a meeting in Osaka, the Commerce Ministry said in the statement. China will defend its legal rights in accordance with WTO rules, it said.

The lawsuit is the third Beijing has brought to challenge U.S. President Donald Trump’s China-specific tariffs at the WTO, the international organization that limits the tariffs each country is allowed to charge.

U.S. officials say that they are penalizing China for theft of intellectual property that is not covered by WTO rules, although many trade experts say that any tariff hike above the allowed maximum must be justified at the WTO.

Many experts also decry China’s decision to fight fire with fire, by imposing tariffs on U.S. goods imported into China, also without the WTO’s approval.


On Friday the United States published a written defense in the first of the three legal cases, asserting that China and the United States agreed the issue should not be judged at the WTO.

“China has taken the unilateral decision to adopt aggressive industrial policy measures to steal or otherwise unfairly acquire the technology of its trading partners; the United States has adopted tariff measures to try to obtain the elimination of China’s unfair and distortive technology-transfer policies,” it said.

China had chosen to respond not by addressing U.S. concerns but with its own tariffs, “in an effort to maintain its unfair policies indefinitely.”

The U.S. submission also said its actions were exempt from WTO rules because they were “measures necessary to protect public morals” - a clause used in the past to argue for trade restrictions over gambling, animal rights and public broadcasting.

Under WTO rules, Washington has 60 days to try to settle the latest dispute. Then China could ask the WTO to adjudicate, a process that would take several years. It could end with China gaining WTO approval to take trade sanctions, if the United States is found to have broken the rules.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/02/china-lodges-wto-complaint-against-us-over-trump-tariffs.html
 
PRETTY BAD WHEN CHICOMS ARE MORE TRUSTWORTHY THAN THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES

Aides Admit Trump Was Faking Those “Phone Calls” With China

Though Trump and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin insisted there had been “communication,” aides privately conceded the phone calls Trump described didn’t happen they way he said they did.

At the time, China’s Foreign Ministry claimed to have no idea what Trump was talking about—the implication being that he’d fabricated the call to calm a panicked market. And on Thursday, CNN reported that this was basically the case:

Instead, two officials said Trump was eager to project optimism that might boost markets, and conflated comments from China’s vice premier with direct communication from the Chinese.

“Regarding the phone call in the weekend, I am not aware of that,” Foreign Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang told reporters last week. “I can tell you clearly that I haven’t heard of such a thing.” And it may indicate why the president was so hesitant to offer any detail on said calls, instead telling reporters, “We have had calls at the highest level, but I don’t want to talk about that.” Could it be that Trump was genuinely confused about communications coming from China? Sure. Could it also be that he’s desperate for a win after virtually an entire presidency of failures? Seems likely!

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/08/donald-trump-china-call-fake
 
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PRETTY BAD WHEN CHICOMS ARE MORE TRUSTWORTHY THAN THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES

Aides Admit Trump Was Faking Those “Phone Calls” With China

Though Trump and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin insisted there had been “communication,” aides privately conceded the phone calls Trump described didn’t happen they way he said they did.

At the time, China’s Foreign Ministry claimed to have no idea what Trump was talking about—the implication being that he’d fabricated the call to calm a panicked market. And on Thursday, CNN reported that this was basically the case:

Instead, two officials said Trump was eager to project optimism that might boost markets, and conflated comments from China’s vice premier with direct communication from the Chinese.

“Regarding the phone call in the weekend, I am not aware of that,” Foreign Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang told reporters last week. “I can tell you clearly that I haven’t heard of such a thing.” And it may indicate why the president was so hesitant to offer any detail on said calls, instead telling reporters, “We have had calls at the highest level, but I don’t want to talk about that.” Could it be that Trump was genuinely confused about communications coming from China? Sure. Could it also be that he’s desperate for a win after virtually an entire presidency of failures? Seems likely!

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/08/donald-trump-china-call-fake
You’ve got him now!
 
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So you guys take the side of the chincs? Doesn't surprise me.

TAKE THE SIDE OF TRUTH, JUSTICE, THE AMERICAN WAY AND HONEST GOVERNMENT HEADED
BY PEOPLE WHO OWE THEIR ALLEGIANCE TO THE CONSTITUTION NOT VLADIMIR PUTIN.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU DISAGREE - YOU ALL HAVE MADE THAT CLEAR.
 
TAKE THE SIDE OF TRUTH, JUSTICE, THE AMERICAN WAY AND HONEST GOVERNMENT HEADED
BY PEOPLE WHO OWE THEIR ALLEGIANCE TO THE CONSTITUTION NOT VLADIMIR PUTIN.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU DISAGREE - YOU ALL HAVE MADE THAT CLEAR.
You root for chincs over the POTUS.
 
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THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CONS AND THE REST OF US IS THAT YOU FOLLOW BLINDLY.
 
LIKE I SAID YOU FOLLOW BLINDLY. EVEN WHEN YOU HAVE A TRAITOR WHO LIES TO YOU EVERY TIME HE OPENS HIS MOUTH. AS LONG AS HE TELL YOU A ROCKET LAUNCHER IN YOUR BACK YARD IS A-OK.

SOME OF THE HOME TEAM YOU ALWAYS SUPPORT.
PUTIN
STALIN
HITLER
MUSSOLINI
POL POT
CASTRO
TRUMP
MAO
UNCLE HO
KING GEORGE
ALWAYS SUPPORTING THE HOME TEAM IS ALWAYS THE WRONG THING TO DO.
 
LIKE I SAID YOU FOLLOW BLINDLY. EVEN WHEN YOU HAVE A TRAITOR WHO LIES TO YOU EVERY TIME HE OPENS HIS MOUTH. AS LONG AS HE TELL YOU A ROCKET LAUNCHER IN YOUR BACK YARD IS A-OK.

SOME OF THE HOME TEAM YOU ALWAYS SUPPORT.
PUTIN
STALIN
HITLER
MUSSOLINI
POL POT
CASTRO
TRUMP
MAO
UNCLE HO
KING GEORGE
ALWAYS SUPPORTING THE HOME TEAM IS ALWAYS THE WRONG THING TO DO.
Yes, I was alive and German during the Hitler regime. Moron.
 
HITLER WAS "THE HOME TEAM" - YOU SAY YOU ARE ALWAYS FOR THE HOME TEAM YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN GOOSE STEPPING WITH THE BEST OF THEM. HELL, YOURE GOOSE STEPPING TODAY
LIKE I SAID ALWAYS BEING FOR THE HOME TEAM IS ALWAYS WRONG.
YOU CONS ALWAYS FOLLOW THE AUTHORITARIAN, YOU ALWAYS WORK AGAINST WHAT YOU SAY YOU ARE FOR - FREEDOM & DEMOCRACY - THATS WHY YOU CALL YOURSELVES DITTO HEADS. DITTO WHATEVER THE PARTY SAYS.

TRUMP IS YOURS YOU OWN HIM. YOU COULD HAVE BACKED A SANE, COMPETENT PRESIDENT
YOU CHOSE CRAZY CHAOS.
 
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BTW THE POINT OF THE THREAD IS THAT CHINA LIKE EVERYONE ELSE IS EATING CROOKEDS LUNCH,
SO BAD THAT HE HAS TO MAKE STUFF UP TO FEED TO HIS DITTO HEADS.

THAT DOESNT MAKE WE THOUGHTFUL PEOPLE PRO CHINA - IT MAKES US PRO
AMERICAN. BY BACKING CROOKED YOU PLAY INTO OUR ENEMIES HANDS BECAUSE HE IS OWNED BY PUTIN AND COMPLETELY INCAPABLE OF COMPETENCY, WHICH MAKES AMERICA WEAK. THE WEAKEST PRESIDENT IN HISTORY.
 
YOU ARE VERY VERY CONFUSED - I AM THE ONE WHO SAID HE DOES NOT FOLLOW BLINDLY.
HERDMAN/YOU ALL ARE THE ONES WHO DITTOHEADEDLY SAY YOU ARE PROUD TO FOLLOW.
 
HITLER WAS "THE HOME TEAM" - YOU SAY YOU ARE ALWAYS FOR THE HOME TEAM YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN GOOSE STEPPING WITH THE BEST OF THEM. HELL, YOURE GOOSE STEPPING TODAY
LIKE I SAID ALWAYS BEING FOR THE HOME TEAM IS ALWAYS WRONG.
YOU CONS ALWAYS FOLLOW THE AUTHORITARIAN, YOU ALWAYS WORK AGAINST WHAT YOU SAY YOU ARE FOR - FREEDOM & DEMOCRACY - THATS WHY YOU CALL YOURSELVES DITTO HEADS. DITTO WHATEVER THE PARTY SAYS.

TRUMP IS YOURS YOU OWN HIM. YOU COULD HAVE BACKED A SANE, COMPETENT PRESIDENT
YOU CHOSE CRAZY CHAOS.
I am not a German, moron. I root for the home team, the USA because I am an American.
 
LIKE I SAID YOU FOLLOW BLINDLY. EVEN WHEN YOU HAVE A TRAITOR WHO LIES TO YOU EVERY TIME HE OPENS HIS MOUTH. AS LONG AS HE TELL YOU A ROCKET LAUNCHER IN YOUR BACK YARD IS A-OK.

SOME OF THE HOME TEAM YOU ALWAYS SUPPORT.
PUTIN
STALIN
HITLER
MUSSOLINI
POL POT
CASTRO
TRUMP
MAO
UNCLE HO
KING GEORGE
ALWAYS SUPPORTING THE HOME TEAM IS ALWAYS THE WRONG THING TO DO.

Don't forget the House of Saud.

But I would love to have a rocket launcher. Next Fourth of July, the party is at my place, bring your junked cars on trailers boys!
 
THIS IS THE KIND OF THING ALWAYS PULLING FOR THE "HOME TEAM" GETS YOU.
SHARPIE GATE. BELIEVE ON DITTO HEAD BELIEVE ON. SUPPORT THAT HOME TEAM.
CROOKED showed a doctored hurricane chart to cover up for ‘Alabama’ Twitter flub.
On Wednesday, it appears the White House attempted to retroactively justify a tweet that President Trump issued over the weekend in which he warned, erroneously, that Alabama would be affected by Hurricane Dorian.

In a White House video released Wednesday, Trump displays a modified National Hurricane Center “cone of uncertainty” forecast, dated from 11 a.m. on Aug. 29, indicating Alabama would in fact be affected. The graphic appears to have been altered with a Sharpie to indicate a risk the storm would move into Alabama from Florida.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/weat...e-chart-was-it-cover-up-alabama-twitter-flub/
 
THIS IS THE KIND OF THING ALWAYS PULLING FOR THE "HOME TEAM" GETS YOU.
SHARPIE GATE. BELIEVE ON DITTO HEAD BELIEVE ON. SUPPORT THAT HOME TEAM.
WE KNOW BY NOW THIS KIND OF THING CHEERS YOU DITTO HEADS UP.

On Wednesday, it appears the White House attempted to retroactively justify a tweet that President Trump issued over the weekend in which he warned, erroneously, that Alabama would be affected by Hurricane Dorian.

In a White House video released Wednesday, Trump displays a modified National Hurricane Center “cone of uncertainty” forecast, dated from 11 a.m. on Aug. 29, indicating Alabama would in fact be affected. The graphic appears to have been altered with a Sharpie to indicate a risk the storm would move into Alabama from Florida.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/weat...e-chart-was-it-cover-up-alabama-twitter-flub/
 
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FOLLOWING BLINDLY OR BLINDLY FOLLOWING - ALWAYS A BAD IDEA - HERDMAN

September 5 at 9:46 AM

Trump continues to push erroneous claim about Alabama as Dorian lashes Carolinas
“What I said was accurate! All Fake News in order to demean!” Trump wrote.

Trump’s latest tweets on the subject came a day after he attempted to retroactively justify his Sunday tweet by displaying in the Oval Office a modified National Hurricane Center “cone of uncertainty” forecast, dated Aug. 29, indicating Alabama could in fact be affected. The graphic appeared to have been altered with a Sharpie to indicate a risk the storm would move into Alabama from Florida.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...5d7de2-cfd7-11e9-8c1c-7c8ee785b855_story.html
 
Forcing senior aides to contort themselves in defense of his false statements is a feature, not a bug, of the Trump administration. This dates to Sean Spicer’s monologue on crowd sizes after the inauguration, which set the tone for everything that’s followed. Aides have tried to substantiate Trump’s specious claims that he was wiretapped, that millions of votes were illegally cast by undocumented immigrants and that Middle Easterners had joined the caravans approaching the southern border. He said that right before the midterm elections during the same speeches in which he claimed that a plan was in the works to cut middle-class taxes by 10 percent. It hadn’t been, but then staff scrambled to make it seem like an idea that was actually under consideration. The list goes on and on.

“Even when Trump mistakenly tweeted the nonsensical word ‘covfefe’ late one night, the president, instead of owning up to a typo or errant message, later sent Spicer to declare, ‘I think the president and a small group of people know exactly what he meant,’” recalls the AP’s Jonathan Lemire.

As Trump put it in 2016, “I think apologizing’s a great thing, but you have to be wrong. I will absolutely apologize, sometime in the hopefully distant future, if I’m ever wrong.”

Or, as George Orwell wrote in “1984,” 2 2=5.
 
SURE LOOKS LIKE SOME FOLKS ARE DOING A LOT OF WISHING AND EVEN MORE GETTING PLAYED.BUT HEY, TRADE WARS ARE GOOD AND THEY ARE EASY.JUST ASK ANY DITTO HEAD.

China had imposed additional tariffs of 25% on U.S. agricultural products including soybeans and pork in July 2018. It raised tariffs on soybeans by a further 5% and on pork by a further 10% on Sept. 1. An outbreak of deadly African swine fever, which has cut China’s pig herd by a third since mid-2018, has propelled Chinese pork prices to record levels and left the country in need of replacement supplies from overseas.

WINNING WOULD BE TRIPLING PORK PRICES NOT GIVING THEM A GET OUT OF JAIL FREE CARD.
 
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