Leggett
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Wow can we lose anymore great players? Our depth is going bye bye. Leggett was probably the biggest recruit Doc ever landed. Dude could have gone to any big time school but chose here. I wonder how a kid can go from being one of the best on the team and making to his junior year and then this happens. Just a huge turnaround in 1 season where he starts every game and now gone. I don't get it. How many more starters is Doc gonna kick off the team?
Kind of jumping to conclusions here, aren't ya? The guys hasn't seen the field all year and we all know that the coaches know a lot more than we Monday AM QB's do.
Obviously SOMETHING was wrong on either end. But, to blame Doc for "kicking starters off the team" is a bit much.
Doc is paid to win....there are guys all over the nation who overlook bullcrap simply to assure W's in the record column. I'd rather have a guy who is willing to prune the tree from time to time than to let crap permeate the program. Bottom line is, we have no idea what's behind this.
Just my two cents.
Suuuuucks. Probably the best player on the team when healthy. He wasn't even dressed last Saturday though. Didn't APPEAR to be hurt, either.
This stuff happens with highly touted players that come with baggage. Unfortunately for us we don't land players of this caliber unless we accept the baggage that goes along with them. I'm not necessarily referring to Leggett, just some more of the higher rated recruits we've had here recently
Bullcrap we pay him to win. You get a kid with a bad attitude then you must break them like horses. They failed and lost them.
We need old school type attitude's. We sometimes have to save these kids from themselves.
I mean, I'm all for getting rid if bad apples, but it's getting a little ridiculous. Butler (obviously one that deserved to be gone), AJL, and now possibly. I mean hell, that's probably 3 of our top 5 or 6 most talented players. We can't keep acting like these losses don't hurt.
Doc brings in amazing talent, but it's starting to feel like he dumps more guys than he turns into success stories.
Doc brings in amazing talent, but it's starting to feel like he dumps more guys than he turns into success stories.
This is a big loss.
No, AJ was not a starter but that was only a technicality. He was our most complete DB.
I've heard he was very well liked in the locker room. Will be interesting to see if this causes any internal issues. Doesn't sound like a team vote-off like AJL's dismissal.
No, AJ was not a starter but that was only a technicality. He was our most complete DB.
I've heard he was very well liked in the locker room. Will be interesting to see if this causes any internal issues. Doesn't sound like a team vote-off like AJL's dismissal.
Again, without knowing the reasons behind Leggett leaving, I would be careful before throwing anyone under the bus, player or coach.
What if the kid did something that gave Doc no other option but to dismiss him? What if the kid doesn't want to be in college anymore? In those cases, you can't put the blame on the coaches. In this case, Leggett has to carry some of the responsibility for the consequences that led to him no longer being part of the team.
I guess its easier to be an armchair quarterback and just throw out wild accusations so that I can make myself feel like I know all.
What if the kid did something that gave Doc no other option but to dismiss him? What if the kid doesn't want to be in college anymore? In those cases, you can't put the blame on the coaches. In this case, Leggett has to carry some of the responsibility for the consequences that led to him no longer being part of the team.
I guess its easier to be an armchair quarterback and just throw out wild accusations so that I can make myself feel like I know all.
Doc is paid to win games. He's also charged with developing young men. He and the other coaches have likely been through every scenario we could think of during their careers. He's not gonna kick someone off the team because that kid and he don't see eye to eye. There are many ego's on a football field but everyone has to get along to a degree for the team to be successful. If he boots a kid, I am confident it was in the best interests of the kid, the team and the program.
This is a bigger loss for next year than this year. Letman is also a very good free safety for us, but he is now a senior. We will also lose McKelvey and Hunter on the D next year. Leggett's talent and experience would've been a big help against Pitt and Louisville.
Something along the lines of, "I need a defensive coordinator who knows how to use me."
He didn't come with Baggage, he just couldn't gain admittance to the University of Miami or get clearance under the ACC standards. Not everyone can get into Miami, they lose recruits or have to stop recruiting kids like him all the time. And it is why Miami has lost the State of Miami. Admissions raised the standards so most of the So Fla kids couldn't get into the schools and you couple that with the raise of the SEC in the 2000s and it is why Miami has fallen.
Plus Nebraska and Tennessee still wanted him. He chose us over them point blank.
^ THIS....without going into details, was a big part of the problem.
Cancer has to be cut out before it can spread.
These losses are adding up. A team like the Herd can only take so many key player losses before we start seeing results on the field. It's already happened with RB when Devon is not in. We don't have that break away speed with Stew gone and he made some big plays for us. I feel like we are rebuilding again. Last year was a great team
Definitely hurts. Leggett is a stud. As much as I love Tiquan Lang , I always thought Leggett was the better player. He just made plays, period. Always around the ball. I have no idea why he was kicked off or if it was warranted, but it sucks to keep losing talent like this. As stated by someone else, this loss will be felt more so next year then this one.
I wonder where the late 80's/early 90's Miami Hurricanes would rank had the coaches gotten rid of all the "cancer"...
not disputing the decision made here (because all we have is speculation at this point) but something to ponder. you want to land "big time" recruits and play at a "big time" level you gotta walk a fine line treating the "cancer" as opposed to cutting it out and tossing it...
not disputing the decision made here (because all we have is speculation at this point) but something to ponder. you want to land "big time" recruits and play at a "big time" level you gotta walk a fine line treating the "cancer" as opposed to cutting it out and tossing it...
I agree Andy. A very fine line with the kind of "leftovers" we get. This isn't OSU or FL. We can't cut big time talent and not expect it to not hurt our team. Pruett always seemed to be able to work with these kids and they loved him. Doc seems like more of an authoritarian type from my point of view. So he might butt heads a lot with some of these guys. It's just wierd that a kid can make it to his junior year and then all of a sudden he wants off the team. I don't get it. Like I said, we can't keep cutting some of our top players and not expect a drop off in on field play.
People love to throw the "cancer" term around to make themselves feel better when a player gets dismissed. Just like all this nonsense of how we'll be better without him.
He produced at high levels when he was on the field and was not a divisive force in the lockerroom. He was never in any serious trouble off the field either.
This loss hurts worse than any other we've had. Our defense gets gutted by graduation this year. Also now Safety has no depth.
Everything flipped on it's head during the seco f half of fall camp. Prior to that AJ was in a video interview posted by the mods on this site where he was praising Heater and the rest of the staff. Then all the sudden he's benched. Rumor was when it happened that it was to motivate him. IF Tthat is the case it's straight up BS. He's a RS JR who has proven what he gives to this team for two seasons.
Now if it comes out he did something bad then by all means he deserved it but running plpys on upper classman who are proven players can backfire and it did.
I like Lang a lot and he needs to play but je is not the overall player that Leggett is.
If they though Lang was better right now than great I can think f an area of need. CB. That's what he played in HS and that postion has not been without it's struggles.
Oh well on to Kent.
Talk about a program that preaches family and the significance of a brother. Regardless, of the situation the timing of this was not good. Kid has been here three years, when Coach Legg was entertaining offers to leave a couple years ago? Now you guys are going to just throw AJ under the bus...I'm not proclaiming to know all the details, but if we are this tight hashed family, you work through it! I wish the young man well and I hope he gets with a program that can propel him to the NFL. Get your popcorn ready Herdnation!
This issue will go away in time unless . . . . .a couple of schools, say WKU, Middle Tenn., perhaps FAU, and some west division foe in the conference championship game, shred the hell out of our defensive secondary like the Hilltoppers did last year!!!!
I'd say there is more to this than what we know at this point. Silly to be arguing about it until that time of things being divulged.
I'd say with the way things are going, that might occur sooner than later. Don't see how we get to 10 wins this year or next, to be honest. Hope am damn wrong.
I trust Doc's decision making. He's been in this game a long time and isn't prone to knee jerk decisions. Don't forget he wants to win to.
If this is the reason, that is just damn stupid. Sit him a game and give him a good talking to, and also give him a shot to voice his thoughts to the coaching staff; never know, he might actually have some ideas on how he could be used.
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