Evil, greedy health insurance Industry profits will no longer be subsidized by the govt.
Liberals should be cheering today
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I agree.
We are now one step closer to true universal health care.
We are now one step closer to true universal health care.
Not quite yet. I will let you know when that disaster ensues.
Please ...that train has already left the station. 10 years and we will have single payer
The VA is the closest insurance we have to Universal. It has been a good experience for me (Vietnam vet).......not so good for others....I HAVE HERD. VA appointments can be difficult to schedule...and you just "don't walk in and expect to see your primary care doctor...nor a specialists." For example...it took me about 45 days to secure my latest hearing test. By the Grace of the Good Lord....the VA is my source for Rx medications and I am old enough to have Medicare (A & B)..plus I have Blue Cross-Blue Shield (Plan F)....combined, I pay NOTHING for my Health Care visits (in patient or out patient). My monthly Health Care Program costs me about $400. I say I am fortunate after HERDing what some folks pay. I had heart stent surgery in June @ Carolinas HealthCare [not at a VA facility]...that totaled about $33,000 since I had some complications. The doctors and hospital received about $1,000 total from my claim. Doctors today "run cattle calls" because Insurance Companies don't pay them like they once did. In fact, some of my credit card customers are doctors. I will never forget what one said to me about three years ago....."Sweeney, it takes me the same amount of time to see & treat a senior citizen (Medicare) as it does to see a patient in their 20s--40s (with Health Insurance)." "I prefer the youngsters...I get more from their insurance companies!" "You old folks will sooner or later -----die off."
Not so sure Universal Insurance is the right way to go...BUT for SURE--- folks in America deserve to have an affordable Health Care Plan. ObamaCare was not the answer.
HerdZilla22 in Charlotte
Not so sure Universal Insurance is the right way to go...BUT for SURE--- folks in America deserve to have an affordable Health Care Plan. ObamaCare was not the answer.
HerdZilla22 in Charlotte
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Nice post HerdZilla22. I'm a Vietnam veteran myself and have never used the VA before. I may do a little more research since I read your email. I'm still working in software industry and had super insurance all my life. Not even thinking of retiring. Life is good and so is my health. Blessed with good genes. I do get all my semi-annual checkups with my doctor though.
Again..very informative email.
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10 years??? For fvck sake anyone can make that kind of long range prediction.
Almost like some of the past predictions we’ve seen on here (which I won’t revisit).
Regardless, there are some key structural barriers to full blown universal within the system that haven’t quite yet been removed. Not saying it won’t happen...just saying not there yet.
Thanks for your Service.
I use the VA for my Rx plan (average about $9/Rx). Plus, in order to stay in the VA system...I visit the outpatient clinic about 3-4 times annually. Just got my Flu Shot there last week...FREE shot too. Otherwise I have an outside general physician, Cardo Specialists, Urologists, Dermatologist, etc. that Medicare & Blue Cross Blue Shield pays for. I helped create a Charlotte Credit Card processing company in 2010...we offer health care....I have no need for our company plan.
Again...My experience with VA care since around 2008 has been great. I had 5-bypass heart surgery at the VA Hospital (Asheville, NC) in May 2010. All the doctors were Duke Medical grads including a doctor from Parkersburg, WVU Medical and Duke Medical. The team performed great surgery....I was out of the VA hospital in about 5 days (including a weekend stay). My hat is off to VA Healthcare....
HerdZilla22 in Charlotte (Gary Sweeney)
Not sure where or what your post means. My June heart procedure was performed (outside of VA----I had a choice to go to VA-Asheville)...... by a surgeon from Charlotte's Sanger Clinic and my hospital stay was Carolinas Healthcare--Pineville, NC. I am hopeful my surgery at VA Asheville Hospital would have been fine.
My experience with the VA has been GREAT. I fell like a 10-Star General during my visits. My only bad experience was with a VA Chiropractor (Salisbury, NC) that was pissed off that day because he was ragging on the amount of workload he had.
I am a patient that does not bitch & moan and awaits my short time in the waiting room, remaining calm...before seeing my VA doctors. I have HERD a few veterans complain in the waiting rooms.....but I determine they probably "bitch" about life too....no matter the situation.
HerdZilla22
My recent Heart stent surgery was performed outside of the VA....I used a doctor from the Sanger Clinic & Carolinas Healthcare---Pineville. My VA cardo doctor recommended the doctor since I opted to not go to VA-Asheville for my surgery.
HerdZilla22
Yeah and this move by the Trump Regime will hurt low income Americans that rely on Obamacare. Everyone agrees that the ACA needs fixed, but playing politics, and hurting low income Americans is not the way to do it.
I tend to agree somewhat with you. I just know some people that bought into Obamacare...and now they have no insurance because they can not afford the escalating premiums. Sad for them.
HerdZilla22
Based on what? A CBO projection?? Christ, they haven’t had one of their projections turn out right since they started scoring healthcare bills. Their static way of scoring is complete nonsense.
It won’t hurt the poor anymore than they are already hurting. Their premiums were on pace to skyrocket in the coming years anyway. You must not be following the sharp increases and rate hikes already seen in next years data.
You are “hopeful” your surgery “would have been” fine. ???
A true vote of confidence right there folks.
It has nothing to do with a CBO score. Those subsidies not being paid, $7 billion this year and a projected $10 billion next year, by the government will be passed on to those low income families. Like I said, I completely agree that ACA needs fixed. But hurting low income Americans in order to make Obamacare implode is imo not the way to do it.
Obamacare was imploding already. The billions in increases will be passed on to those that actually pay in full for their premium. Not a poor welfare recipients.
Went to the doctor today and he told me the day the govt takes over and starts dictating what they make is the day he and other doctors walk out and do something else. Frankly, i want my doctors to make an ass ton of money. I want the best being a doctor.
Like work in a factory? LOL. He is full of shit. Most of them are already dictated to by health care corporations and insurance companies anyway.
The fvxk else are they going to do? Go hump for $13 an hour like the rest of Americans with no skills to apply to the job market?
Anyway, first you confuse universal coverage and single payer. Second, you falsely assume single payer would make doctors into peasants. We could cover everyone universally, cut overhead to 3% like Medicaid, and still save money and pay everyone well. Third, again most doctors are already told what to do and he is full of shit.
It won't make them into peasants, but they are smart people. They could find something else to do. Or at least some of them. Many of the brightest and best would leave. I really believe that. Wouldn't be worth their effort and hassle. He told me point blank, if all he did was Medicaid/ govt work he would be out of it.
I am telling it it's bullshit. They are going to trade those new Mercedes and BMWs? LOLOLOL. He's running his mouth like any other dick. And again, we can take all this money we pour into insurance corporations, pay doctors the same, and still come out ahead.
You think if all doctors were on the same scale as VA dr's and they all took a medicare type plan they would go into it or stay in it? No way. Dude is probably making 2 to 3 times what he would at a VA or if the govt was paying him.
And all this pie in the sky single payer? Who the hell is going to pay for it?
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They wouldn't be at the same scale as the VA, because we fvck our veterans while we fight unnecessary wars. That's good and all until everyone has to deal with it. Politics 101, man.
Do you want to talk single payer or universal? That's very different things. I personally prefer single payer, but universal with extra insurance purchasable is OK with me, too. Anyway, here's the secret: we are already are paying for it. All I want is to cut out the middle man and still pay for it. I'd gladly pay more in taxes, perhaps with a VAT, rather than pay for it with insurance that pays for the free riders. We already pay for the poor and old, nothing changes there. Slap a consumption tax on the young, who tend to not be sick but when they fvck up have astronomical bills, and maybe we are getting somewhere.
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