Marshall hires Dallas Baker to coach WRs
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I remember him when he played for the Gators. Dallas Baker, the Touchdown Maker. Was one of the star players in one of the BCS title games.
It's baffling and head-scratching . . . to a high degree. I understand how the hire was made (Baker played for Doc for three years at Florida, so there was a strong relationship and familiarity there), but it is still baffling.
"He has receivers coaching experience in the state of Florida!"
His top experience has been as an NAIA receivers coach for two years at Warner University. I lived in Florida for three years and had to look at what Warner University is. In an interview last year, Baker claimed he had to look at what and where Warner is . . . and he was living just an hour away from the campus. He also claims that he loved it there because they had to go to chapel twice per week and he could have his players spend the night at his house. I hope he realizes he can't do that in the NCAA.
"Maybe Warner University balled out at receiver!"
They ran the ball 366 times. They only threw it 181 times. That means they have more than a 2:1 rush to pass ratio. They were slow-tempo running only 68 plays per game. They only averaged 65 plays before the year prior. That isn't the fault of the receivers coach, but it gives an idea of what his experience is. Their leading receiver had 27 catches (not in one game, but for the season). The year before, their leading receiver (the same player) had 25 receptions over 11 games.
"Well, he also played in the NFL!"
Yes, he last "played" in the NFL eight years ago where he has one more catch than I do and six more yards receiving than I do in my NFL career.
"It doesn't look like he has been arrested this month and he has never received a show-cause from the NCAA!"
Agreed. It would be hard to receive a show-cause by the NCAA as a coach if you have never coached in the NCAA.
I can only imagine this is a hire for recruiting potential only. But, he hasn't really recruited. His recruiting territory wasn't south Florida. It was his hometown area (Volusia County/Daytona Beach, Orlando, and Brevard). Now, there are some very talented kids who come out of that region, but I can't imagine that is the region he'd end up getting. So, he will most likely be recruiting a region he has never recruited.
I believe hiring smart coaches is drastically underrated. Smart coaches work smarter- more efficiently, coaching better, know how to teach and not just what to teach (again, something that is drastically underrated). That last point cannot be stressed enough . . . and I will go off on a bit of a tangent here: After the defendant finally agreed to settle my lawsuit last year for what I wanted, it was right before the season started. So, my potential employers were concerned that I wouldn't have time to learn all of the offense and be able to teach it to my position unit. Besides telling them that I was quick learner, I stressed one key (an underappreciated part of coaching): would you rather have a coach who knows 80% of an offense but can effectively teach 100% of it or would you rather have a coach who knows 100% of the offense but can only effectively teach 60% of it? There are a lot of coaches out there who know the ins-and-outs of a game, but they don't know how to articulate and teach things to all players. Not all players learn the same; when a coach has a limited amount of time to teach an entire room of players, he gets into a habit of just teaching it all the same. You cannot do that. You not only have to find out how each of your players best learns (which very few coaches take the time to do or realize the importance of it), but you have to be able to teach it in each of those ways. That is why you can't just hire an NFL great with a dozen years of All-Pro experience. Knowing all about technique and reading a defense means absolute shit if you don't have the ability to teach it. And that is why so many NFL greats amount to shit as coaches. Is this a "smart" coach? I don't know. I do know that he was academically ineligible coming out of high school. I do know that even after a year of prep school, he was only a partial qualifier. Work ethic, character, and experience can help overcome a lack of intelligence as a coach.
There are dozens of far better options out there. Let me give you one:
With Aubrey Hill's hire, Doc has shown that a show-cause/ethics issues in the past doesn't really bother him. Aubrey had not been hired by another college, so Marshall was taking the first plunge. There is another receivers coach who also received a two year show-cause. However, that coach's show-cause expired many years before Hill's. Further, that coach has been employed (with no issues) at multiple FBS and FCS schools since his show-cause expired. Currently, he is in player personnel (recruiting) at FAU. His resume:
2015-2016: Florida A&M receivers coach
2012-2014: Cookman receivers Coach
2010-2011: Atlantic High School (FL) offensive coordinator (during NCAA show-cause)
2007-2009: LSU receivers coach (won a national championship)
2006: UCLA receivers coach
2004-2005: UCF receivers coach
2000-2003: Nevada receivers coach
1999-2000: Oakland Raiders assistant
JUCO coaching
Played as a receiver at Washington and won a national championship as a player. Played four seasons in arena ball.
So, lets review:
Option 1: Has one career catch in the NFL. Played years in arena ball. Won a national championship as a player at Florida. Grew up in Florida. Coaching pinnacle was two years of coaching at an NAIA in Florida.
Option 2: Played years in arena ball. Has won an FBS national title as both a coach and a player. Has 10 years of FBS receivers coaching experience and another 5 years of FCS receivers coaching experience. Has spent 7 years coaching FBS and FCS football in the state of Florida, another 2 as a Florida high school coach, and has been coaching in Florida for the last 8 years. Currently is in a recruiting position at an FBS in Florida.
Clearly, the show-cause isn't an issue in his past in Doc's eyes. If that is excluded, you can't really compare the two. I can show a lot of far better, far more experienced, and far more successful receivers coaches who would have taken the job.
A good head coach always has a list of a few names at each position he can go to when the unexpected happens. There shouldn't have been any panic involved. There are far more experienced and better coaches out there than who Doc went with (like DJ McCarthy whom I just went over; a history of putting FBS and FCS receivers into the NFL, a long history of coaching in and recruiting Florida, a Florida native, etc.). It's simply baffling.
Meh, I'm not at all excited about this hire. It just seems like another good ol' boy tactic. I don't care which level he played WR, since that often doesn't translate into coaching abilities.
If the guy is from Florida, does he cone with any recruiting ties? Maybe he could be useful in that regard?
If the guy is from Florida, does he cone with any recruiting ties? Maybe he could be useful in that regard?
If you are so knowledgeable, why aren't you an AD in the SEC instead of a board lurker. No smack. Serious. You write volumes of nothing. Do you have a job? Are you actually a volunteer lawyer in Nancy Pelosi's basement?
Didn't McCarthy land an off field position recently.
I brought his name up before as someone who would be a good option for us.
I brought his name up before as someone who would be a good option for us.
I was a finalist for the Alabama AD position last year, but I didn't know anything about equestrian, which the SEC sponsors, so I missed out on the job.
You're able to skip over my posts since they are full of "nothing," but I recommend reading them, as it seems you have a lot to learn.
You don't know anything about equestrian, but you are a proven bullshit expert. No one needs to read much of your bloviating to know that much.
It isn't a good sign when two moderators liked the posts, yet you claim it is "nothing" and "bullshit."
Now, if you'd like to make a logical refutation of any of the comments I presented, feel free to. Otherwise, you chasing me around all of the boards is going to make HerdFever jealous.
I think gerad parker would bebthe best hire. He ia pure as snow and no greenduke its not because he ia from louisa. His family is from new lexington ohio. He was a great receiver and is a good teacher. Rifle he gets a dui after going down a one way street trying to get just around the block to anothet coaches house. Drinking. Yes. Drunk. No way. You would like gerad rifle. Like you he loves football. Im still rooting for u to land here with the herd
I think this hire was a reach at best. Young with limited recruiting ties. To me it shows Docs lack of ability to recruit good coaches. Especially over a program we are historically better than.
Davis and Kiffin will run circles around us in recruiting and coaching.
Davis and Kiffin will run circles around us in recruiting and coaching.
