Marshall v WVU hoops - no go next season according to the Gazette.
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Here we go again. Playing this game in football is somewhat challenging for sure.With only 3-4 OOC games it can be hard to pull off. However, there is no excuse not to play it in basketball. Good for the state. A series that is 33-11 has been competitive over the years with many close games should continue. Personally I could care less if we ever play wvu- tired of all the pompous drama queens from up North. We don't need the game anymore than they need it.
Has nothing to do with comments last year. The contract was up and WVU wants no part of playing us anymore. I used to be for the series but now I hope we cut ties with them in every sport. If we can screw them then we need to do it in every way we can. WVU is nothing in the grand scheme of sports in college. They are wannabes. Like the little kid tagging along with the older kids trying to be like them.
hell will freeze over before we agree to that. I say play them all in Huntington. After all you guys are so awesome it shouldn't matter where we play the game right?
WVU fans: if you wish to post on this board about the game you may, but any form of smack will be deleted.
Not at all surprised, nor do I care. Huggins, while at Cincinnati, was forever wanting to end the Crosstown Shootout with Xavier. By the time he was fired, XU had gotten the upper hand in the series. Huggins detested having to play the game, even refusing to shake Pete Gillans hand after a Xavier win.
Wouldn't bother me if we never play them again in any sport....too old to care and much too tired of all the rancor involved. Time to move on!
Wouldn't bother me if we never play them again in any sport....too old to care and much too tired of all the rancor involved. Time to move on!
Since we don't play Morgantown in any major sport, I hope the mods will delete any of their comments on this board as soon as they are posted.
LOL!!!!
First smart move by the eerbillys since they moved out the AD that left them on probation.
I saw this coming. Honestly there are 2 programs in the state that are D1'and they are going in opposite directions.
If I'm scared, I end every game I can with Marshall. Looks bad, is bad for the state economically and really is actually stupid from a logistical standpoint, but I can understand their fear. They are on the down slide, we are on the climbing side.
Really was it that big of a deal to play those idiots? Stupidest, most idiot fan base of any we play. I'm glad we don't have to face them again. I went to 1 game up there, first football game in the series....I was cussed, threatened with bodily harm and had fans throw stuff at me.....who needs that.
Bye bye EERBILLYS! Hope the meth keeps you all warm in the winter!
First smart move by the eerbillys since they moved out the AD that left them on probation.
I saw this coming. Honestly there are 2 programs in the state that are D1'and they are going in opposite directions.
If I'm scared, I end every game I can with Marshall. Looks bad, is bad for the state economically and really is actually stupid from a logistical standpoint, but I can understand their fear. They are on the down slide, we are on the climbing side.
Really was it that big of a deal to play those idiots? Stupidest, most idiot fan base of any we play. I'm glad we don't have to face them again. I went to 1 game up there, first football game in the series....I was cussed, threatened with bodily harm and had fans throw stuff at me.....who needs that.
Bye bye EERBILLYS! Hope the meth keeps you all warm in the winter!
I'm hoping they're basically non-existent now that the bball series is done.
I understand this is a Marshall board and our fans can talk about whatever they want, but not starting threads about WVU would help with things as well.
It blows my mind how many threads on here are started about something relating to WVU. Who cares? Let them do their thing. Now that basketball isn't going to happen ever again, we have absolutely nothing related to WVU to ever talk about on here. Some of our fan base needs to move on and focus on what is actually relevant to Marshall.
At this point I don't care if we ever play them in anything. It doesn't really matter you know. If they beat us, in any sport, they will say 'We should have won no surprise.' But if they lose then they will complain that the game doesn't matter to them or we got lucky. Time to cut bait people. We should move on and so should they.
Look at it real quick:
Football they are in a P5 conference we are in a G5 - makes sense why they don't/won't play us
Basketball they have beaten us 9 out of 10 years. The Civic Arena is rarely sold out. They even moved the Women's game to a different day. Did anyone attend that game?
Volleyball - I don't know much about them or us for that matter - it's volleyball and when I was at MU we maybe had 50-60 people at the game?
Baseball - they have a brand new stadium we have.........Charleston?
Women's soccer - they started the same year as us - they have a Top 10 program we have had 3 winning seasons out of 17
So I get it...let's move on please. Besides I'm so tired of seeing things from their fan base on here and just in general. It's tired rhetoric and frankly the sooner we are done with them the happier many of us will be so that we don't have to hear/see their BS.
Look at it real quick:
Football they are in a P5 conference we are in a G5 - makes sense why they don't/won't play us
Basketball they have beaten us 9 out of 10 years. The Civic Arena is rarely sold out. They even moved the Women's game to a different day. Did anyone attend that game?
Volleyball - I don't know much about them or us for that matter - it's volleyball and when I was at MU we maybe had 50-60 people at the game?
Baseball - they have a brand new stadium we have.........Charleston?
Women's soccer - they started the same year as us - they have a Top 10 program we have had 3 winning seasons out of 17
So I get it...let's move on please. Besides I'm so tired of seeing things from their fan base on here and just in general. It's tired rhetoric and frankly the sooner we are done with them the happier many of us will be so that we don't have to hear/see their BS.
I heard the state of Painsylvania is going to start funding them... If our legislature had any backbone, they would stop funding their ever whim. While I'm at it, we need to repeal their pop tax.
How stupid are they? Their closest conference game is in Ames, Iowa -- 800 miles away! Yet they want to end a series with us in both sports where fans of both schools could easily travel and keep the money in state.
Boys are girl or two, this state, for the most part, is inhabitated by a bunch of ignorant idiots, E. Gordon Gee among them. He thinks taking over Mt. State will eradicate us.
Hard times in Ole Mountain Mama? You ain't seen nothin' yet. With coal gone, the economics of Appalachia in the early 'Sixties will look like a picnic in comparison to what's coming!
How stupid are they? Their closest conference game is in Ames, Iowa -- 800 miles away! Yet they want to end a series with us in both sports where fans of both schools could easily travel and keep the money in state.
Boys are girl or two, this state, for the most part, is inhabitated by a bunch of ignorant idiots, E. Gordon Gee among them. He thinks taking over Mt. State will eradicate us.
Hard times in Ole Mountain Mama? You ain't seen nothin' yet. With coal gone, the economics of Appalachia in the early 'Sixties will look like a picnic in comparison to what's coming!
Thank You. Can't start threads about WVU and expect WVU fans not to reply, mostly to defend their program.
Point of the matter is that Huggins holds the cards. Whether you guys refuse to believe it, ignore it, or hate it, its the truth. Huggins said no to renewing the series, so it will not be renewed. It's not about the winning or losing. It began with the inconvenience of the game. Then it was how amateur the game has gotten. The straw the broke the camels back was the arrogance and threats (yes they were threats) D'Antoni showed after a loss.
You guys will get mad as hell over this statement but its a fact - Huggins could care less about playing Marshall in basketball. He's more worried about getting back to a Final Four.
You guys will get mad as hell over this statement but its a fact - Huggins could care less about playing Marshall in basketball. He's more worried about getting back to a Final Four.
WVU has never wanted to play Marshall in any sport, ever. That is why it took into the 1970s for us to play in BB. That is why the football series died.
Let it go. We need to quit playing USPAM in all the minor sports, including baseball and women's BB and move on. We need to irrevolkabaly state that under no circumstances will we consider playing WVU (other than in a bowl or a NCAA tournament) in any sport for the next 20 years. Sign it in blood and say that it is not open to discussion. That ends the discussion, period.
What will happen in the next term?
In football, WVU is doomed to be what it is. We see the formula. Play a joke non-conference schedule and fight it out for 5th in the lowest of the P5 leagues and go to the whogivesaflyingf*** bowl. The question is will the Spamtards, told for decades that their "success" in the old Leastleftovers was real show up to see "their" team go 7-5 and 8-4 over and over? I say they won't, and a good gate will be 40K. We can sell those other seats for them. We should not.
In basketball, everybody understands this team is probation bound. They will gin up a game or two in Charleston and sell 8 or 9K seats. They can sell (leaving out the students, who get in free) 5K or so in the 'hole. BB is all about TV now anyway. We need to worry about our own BB program, which is foundering. UC is going to go Div I in a few years, and we need to play them.
In minor sports, well, nobody really cares anyway. We should not play them in baseball and should try to keep them from playing in Charleston or Beckley period. They got their 100% taxpaid stadium and will, as in football, be the bitch of the good teams in their league.
Let it go. We need to quit playing USPAM in all the minor sports, including baseball and women's BB and move on. We need to irrevolkabaly state that under no circumstances will we consider playing WVU (other than in a bowl or a NCAA tournament) in any sport for the next 20 years. Sign it in blood and say that it is not open to discussion. That ends the discussion, period.
What will happen in the next term?
In football, WVU is doomed to be what it is. We see the formula. Play a joke non-conference schedule and fight it out for 5th in the lowest of the P5 leagues and go to the whogivesaflyingf*** bowl. The question is will the Spamtards, told for decades that their "success" in the old Leastleftovers was real show up to see "their" team go 7-5 and 8-4 over and over? I say they won't, and a good gate will be 40K. We can sell those other seats for them. We should not.
In basketball, everybody understands this team is probation bound. They will gin up a game or two in Charleston and sell 8 or 9K seats. They can sell (leaving out the students, who get in free) 5K or so in the 'hole. BB is all about TV now anyway. We need to worry about our own BB program, which is foundering. UC is going to go Div I in a few years, and we need to play them.
In minor sports, well, nobody really cares anyway. We should not play them in baseball and should try to keep them from playing in Charleston or Beckley period. They got their 100% taxpaid stadium and will, as in football, be the bitch of the good teams in their league.
Concordmoron is an example of poster who should be deleted. No Marshall fan, did not attend our school, hangs on to a school from which he didn't graduate. Oh, and he can't read since board heading states "MARSHALL FANS ONLY."
Maybe I'm being too hard. My brother graduated from Concord and he can't read either.
Maybe I'm being too hard. My brother graduated from Concord and he can't read either.
GoHerd9 you have the best post (IMO) on this topic by giving factual information that compares the two programs sports programs and records in each. Still, as a native West Virginian, I think it is silly that neither D1 program can reach some accord and establish an in-state rivalry. Who ever becomes the next governor I hope they mandate the two will play annually in all sports.
BBN - first thank you for the kind words. I understand your point and agree it's silly that the programs don't play. However, until it's a mandate like in the State of South Carolina (USC/Clemson) I'm not going to lose any sleep over not playing them.
Question - what if it is a mandate? All we will here is their whinny arses complain about how they have to play us. It's just frustrating to me. Outside of the economic benefits for both schools playing is it all worth it?
Yes GoHerd9 it is frustrating to me as well. I am 69 and just find WVU's resistance to play us for any reason - in this day and age, ridiculous. We are basically one state with two D1 programs (albeit on different levels) whose two teams cannot establish a rivalry. If a new governor establishes a mandate for the two schools to play well hell yes - WVU will whine and cry all the while UNTIL we beat them! Especially in football. Then we have a rivalry. Just my opinion.
We need to get over this governor/mandate thing. Since every dollar spent on WVU is a dollar wasted, and since MU is one of the most underfunded public universities in the nation, what little pull MU has at the Legislature needs to be spent on cutting funding for WVU and increasing funding to MU. New Jersey needs to take care of its own, and, with the economic disaster that is and will continue, West Virginia (the state) needs a university that serves it, not one it serves.
In any event anybody that actually believes that Photo Joe mandated the football series probably also believes he was actualy against the law he shot through in that silly ad. Before he voted for the law and against the gun he used once elected..
In any event anybody that actually believes that Photo Joe mandated the football series probably also believes he was actualy against the law he shot through in that silly ad. Before he voted for the law and against the gun he used once elected..
they are already there in football....
just finished their BEST season since joining the Big12 (8-5)
attendance:
ISU - 42,446
Texas - 56,736
TTU - 54,932
"but, but, but, with the big name teams we will fill the stadium even in down years"
lowest attended conference game in 2011 (final year as a mid-major) - UConn (56,179) nearly matching Texas.... yes TEXAS......... oh and for shit-n-giggles.... the Marshall game that year drew 60,758
I attended both schools and root for them both, and yes, I choose WVU over Marshall when they play each other. There are asshole fans for both teams. I'm tired of all the BS that goes along with each time we play. It is NOT good for the state, economically. Think about it; WVU has a home game and gets all the revenue. On that same date, Marshall has a home game and gets all the revenue.
The claim that the state subsidizes WVU's athletic program is false. The athletic program is self sustaining and will only become more in the black with this being the first year of our full share of the Big XII revenue.
And I hope no one takes this as smack, I stuck to the facts and didn't hurl any insults.
http://www.wvillustrated.com/story/15398274/senator-manchin-discusses-the-friends-of-coal-bowl
The claim that the state subsidizes WVU's athletic program is false. The athletic program is self sustaining and will only become more in the black with this being the first year of our full share of the Big XII revenue.
And I hope no one takes this as smack, I stuck to the facts and didn't hurl any insults.
http://www.wvillustrated.com/story/15398274/senator-manchin-discusses-the-friends-of-coal-bowl
And even those numbers are as gross a lie as the totally disproven "we are self-supporting" lie. For the life of me I will never understand why the Spamies all live and die by that self-supporting deal. If they just admitted what everybody already knows, 5 MU fans would laugh, and 50 anti-governemnt types would post on whatever they post on about taxwaste. No one else would care.
Any, yeah, WVU is now trying to sell a totally different thing. There is, of course, a huge overlap between the Spamite fan base and the 'raslin fan base, obviously. And what happens in 'raslin? The good guy always wins in the end. And that (from the WVU perspective) is what WVU had been selling since the early 80s. Easy wins against outmanned programs in a cupcake light mid-major league. Tell people too really stupid to know better that what they are seeing is major college football and how good "usens" is.
Now, albeit at the lowest of the P5 level, WVU actually is playing major college football. Poorly. It now, having told people one thing for three decades, is trying to sell the exact opposite. Sell moral victories and 7-5 and 8-4 as acomplishments.
The rot has sat in, and, until the next realignment in the middle of the next decade, they really have no way out.
Sammi, just how much of a funding cut are you advocating for WVU?
10%?.......20%?.......50%?
And would you go public with that plan?
It looks to me that would be another war that you couldn't win.
Haven't you engaged in several of those already with WVU?
Grow up, Sammi, the kamikaze approach, repudiated in every walk of life, has never worked.
I'd suggest forget any legislative funding and build your billing structure from that platform. Eerbilly high has the lawless school, they are all cubby holed into their dank stances, and funding for Marshall will continue to slide to non existence.
I'm SO glad we no longer have to listen to this. End the series FOREVER. Thank GOD stupidest and most uncouth fan base I've ever had to deal with.
Let's continue to build the Marshall way. We have two ACC teams on our football schedule next year....that's the same conference that said NO WAY eerbillys you will join us, that speaks volumes on how he the nation sees that school.
We use Marshall diplomacy and continue to build our relationships. In time....
I'm SO glad we no longer have to listen to this. End the series FOREVER. Thank GOD stupidest and most uncouth fan base I've ever had to deal with.
Let's continue to build the Marshall way. We have two ACC teams on our football schedule next year....that's the same conference that said NO WAY eerbillys you will join us, that speaks volumes on how he the nation sees that school.
We use Marshall diplomacy and continue to build our relationships. In time....
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ge-football-playoff-down-36-percent/78178798/
Nice.
Like I said, thank GOD we no longer have to deal with these idiots.
Nice.
Like I said, thank GOD we no longer have to deal with these idiots.
Ever have any LUCK getting into the ACC? Let's see Pitt did, right? Virginia Tech did, right? BOSTON COLLEGE did , right? Syracuse did, right?
I guess those 4 little brothers right there EXPOSES west va for what it is...a bunch of uncouth idiots. You were smack dab in the middle of them but.....oops.
Steve and I are texting daily and are working towards an agreement, you boys keep Ollie close on the phone!
I guess those 4 little brothers right there EXPOSES west va for what it is...a bunch of uncouth idiots. You were smack dab in the middle of them but.....oops.
Steve and I are texting daily and are working towards an agreement, you boys keep Ollie close on the phone!
Cousin, you budding porn star genius mark my words now.
In the history of the world, oppression , exclusion , separation never ends up working in the oppressors favor, in fact usually just the opposite happens. We have a day in this nation coming up soon that proves that very premise. Jan 18th is.....?
What did UVA do when VT lobbied to be included into the ACC?
Mark my words, Ollie and his spewing of 3rd Reich superiority rhetoric will come to haunt his arrogant criminal lawyer ass...and all the drunken moronic inhabitants of Morgantown too...
In the history of the world, oppression , exclusion , separation never ends up working in the oppressors favor, in fact usually just the opposite happens. We have a day in this nation coming up soon that proves that very premise. Jan 18th is.....?
What did UVA do when VT lobbied to be included into the ACC?
Mark my words, Ollie and his spewing of 3rd Reich superiority rhetoric will come to haunt his arrogant criminal lawyer ass...and all the drunken moronic inhabitants of Morgantown too...
Sorry, but WVU is not self sustaining. Anytime a business or institution has to rely on outside sources for revenue or budget dollars, they aren't self sustaining.
That's fine.
But how many decades of funding did it take for WVU's AD to get where it is financially?
I'm legitimately asking.
Boca Raton Florida, Charlotte NC, Ft Lauderdale Florida and Hattisburg MS suit me just fine.
How's Oklahoma working for the eerbillys? Actually youre a fit there.
Hey I just checked Vermins board and NO mention of your budding porn star's dis-MISSLE (LMAO!) from the team....think I should post up there to inform them the emporer has no clothes??!? pun intended,!!!
Go away eerbillys! We are playing 2 ACC teams next year, we don't want you, just like them!
How's Oklahoma working for the eerbillys? Actually youre a fit there.
Hey I just checked Vermins board and NO mention of your budding porn star's dis-MISSLE (LMAO!) from the team....think I should post up there to inform them the emporer has no clothes??!? pun intended,!!!
Go away eerbillys! We are playing 2 ACC teams next year, we don't want you, just like them!
