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Memphis is blowing my mind

I am sure Mike Hamrick would take those numbers all day long.

If Huntington were Memphis, and could find some sugar daddy corporations to paper the house, I’m sure he would. Right now, we have a different business plan. Unless you think Fed Ex is moving its hub to HTS, probably will remain apples fo oranges comparison.

The point is this is “mind blowing”. Really? A one loss team papers the house once and almost sells out? And it is 100% certain it will play before at least 30K empty seats very soon. If you think that is “mind blowing, you need to change the channel.

The AAC marketing plan. In cites. Not significant in cities. At the risk of setting our resident mental defective off into several hours of complex math I feel certain that no league plays before more empty seats than the AAC.
 
You're right. Better to leave Marshall stands 1/2 empty than "paper the community with $9 tickets" for unsold seats.

Yes it is. Football costs money. Unless you have somebody paying the freight, you are in for a downfall. Tickets cost what they cost. Come or don’t.
 
You are not accepting it over “nothing”.

Forget MU, at a theoretical program lets say tickets are $20 and you need to sell 20K of your 40K seats to cover the costs, if you cut the price to $10 then you have to be SURE that you will double the attendance, or you have lost money.

Programs cost money. Pay the costs or don’t come.
 
Really? Take a look at the stands in any Tuesday night MACAction game.

Evidently sammy here doesn't watch too many CUSA games either. Did you watch the MTSU game? When they did that dumb 20 minute behind the scenes feature you can hear the producer say "cut to the crowd" in which the person receiving the directive replies, "there is now crowd."
 
AFAIK, the NCAA does not even publish attendance numbers.
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As far as you know? That's the problem. You're clueless to how much you don't know, think you know everything, and constantly regurgitate bullshit that is easily disproven.

Here you go - you can search attendance for each FBS team per year published by the NCAA. As you can see, what you said was completely wrong and what Banker said was completely right:

http://www.ncaa.org/championships/statistics/ncaa-football-attendance

Tulane 30,221 (do the math, genius)
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This is great. You sarcastically call Banker a "genius" and tell him to do the math. Your claim was that Memphis played their last home game (prior to the SMU game) in front of 21K empty seats. You then claim the Memphis stadium has a 59K capacity. Finally, you show the Tulane game as having an attendance of 30K. That would mean they played in front of about 29K empty seats, not the 21K empty seats that you claimed.

Why would you tell Banker to "do the math, genius," when you clearly fvcked up the simple math, moron?

Memphis’ business plan is simple. Play an SEC team with local traction (Tennessee, either Mississippi, Arkansas, even UK) and sell tickets to the away fans.

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Memphis has hosted one SEC team in the last four years and two in the last eight years. That ruins your claim, huh, Sammy?

But let's look at the specifics you mentioned:

Kentucky - the last time Memphis played Kentucky in football was in 1957. Memphis has never hosted Kentucky in football.

Arkansas - the last time Memphis played Arkansas in football was in 1998, more than 20 years ago.

Tennessee - the last time Memphis played Tennessee was in 2010, nine years ago.

Why do you just throw random bullshit out there and hope people believe any of it?

Since Samantha has me blocked, somebody should copy-and-paste this so he can see how much of a fool we all know that he is. Don't quote me, as it will still be blocked for him from reading.
 
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Evidently sammy here doesn't watch too many CUSA games either. Did you watch the MTSU game? When they did that dumb 20 minute behind the scenes feature you can hear the producer say "cut to the crowd" in which the person receiving the directive replies, "there is now crowd."


Rice listed 17K plus for our game. If they had 10K there, that would be very generous.
 
You are not accepting it over “nothing”.

Forget MU, at a theoretical program lets say tickets are $20 and you need to sell 20K of your 40K seats to cover the costs, if you cut the price to $10 then you have to be SURE that you will double the attendance, or you have lost money.

Programs cost money. Pay the costs or don’t come.


An empty seat costs MU money. Any money paid for a ticket is revenue.
 
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Forget MU,

Which more and more people are doing by the day.

lets say tickets are $20 and you need to sell 20K of your 40K seats to cover the costs. Unfortunately no one was going to buy these tickets in most cases anyway, so no one in their right mind is factoring in "doubling attendance". So if you cut the price to $10 then you will surely raise more revenue than you would have, by allowing the stands to remain 1/2 empty.

FIFY
 
Nope. If you sell 10 tickets for $20 each you have $200. If you sell 15 tickets for $10 each you have only $150.

Pay the freight or don’t come.

Let's see-

Memphis has College Gameday come to town, had their stands filled on national television (whatever the tickets cost), therefore looking fantastic to recruits on the sidelines and watching the game on TV, had an excellent win for the program, have teams like Marshall's fans discussing them on a message board for their successful day...

but that is a 'different business plan'

Green colored blinders, never has left Huntington in his life, won't accept reality, and conjures up bullshit... The REAL SamC....
 
I'm not confirming anything. I'm giving you my opinion of how I think things will play out.
Package deal
And if you "sell" $20 tickets and no one buys them...you have $0.
This is the Marshall "business plan".
Hire your buddy and set up a lifer contract for the both of you and go ride off into retirement. That's the plan. Just like the State Road.
 
And if you "sell" $20 tickets and no one buys them...you have $0.
This is the Marshall "business plan".

Of course we are selling plenty of ticket at full price. You want to cut the price in half, or yet more. Unless you can show, and you cannot, that we would sell twice as many tickets at half the price, you are just bad at math.
 
Of course we are selling plenty of ticket at full price. You want to cut the price in half, or yet more. Unless you can show, and you cannot, that we would sell twice as many tickets at half the price, you are just bad at math.

Memphis doesnt do that either.. they did it for one game to look good on national TV for fans, recruits, bowl commitees... etc.. Gee what a bad idea
 
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If Huntington were Memphis, and could find some sugar daddy corporations to paper the house, I’m sure he would. Right now, we have a different business plan. Unless you think Fed Ex is moving its hub to HTS, probably will remain apples fo oranges comparison.

The point is this is “mind blowing”. Really? A one loss team papers the house once and almost sells out? And it is 100% certain it will play before at least 30K empty seats very soon. If you think that is “mind blowing, you need to change the channel.

The AAC marketing plan. In cites. Not significant in cities. At the risk of setting our resident mental defective off into several hours of complex math I feel certain that no league plays before more empty seats than the AAC.


And, of course, your wrong again on attendance. When you look at percent of capacity, UTEP, UAB, Rice and Middle Tennessee are all in the bottom 15. The AAC has only Temple and Uconn (which is leaving the conference) in the bottom 15. UTEP and UAB are the last and next to last place teams, filling only around 36% on average.

On the other end of the spectrum, there are only 4 G5 teams that average in the top 45 schools when it comes to percent of capacity. Three of those, UCF, Navy and Cincinnati are in the AAC. The 4th is Boise. The AAC fills a higher percentage of their seats, and has the highest average attendance, of the five G5 conferences.
 
If you believe that, you will believe anything.

Tell me again exactly why UConn, named for one of the richest states, is paying to escape the AAC.
 
If you believe that, you will believe anything.

Tell me again exactly why UConn, named for one of the richest states, is paying to escape the AAC.
Sam, really! Of all the example schools banker named off, you cherry pick the ONE school? You and Adam pencil neck would get along famously.....;)

Surely even you, the most stubborn poster on this board, would acknowledge that Cincy, Navy, SMU, UCF, hell even ECU in a down time period are killing it in attendance vs CUSA?
 
If you believe that, you will believe anything.

Tell me again exactly why UConn, named for one of the richest states, is paying to escape the AAC.

If I believe what, the attendance statistics posted on the official NCAA.org web site? The better question is what are yore grounds for not believing them? Well, other than it doesn't fit yore delusional narrative.

UConn is paying to leave the AAC for a few reasons. First, they want to play in a better basketball conference against many of their traditional rivals. Basketball is king at UConn. Second, they have found that they can't really be competitive in the AAC when it comes to football and they are tired of bleeding cash to try and be. Their fans don't really care, so I expect them to try the independent route for a few years and then either drop back down to FCS or drop football altogether. What they are paying to get out will be recovered in a few years from reduced expenses and increased NCAA credits from basketball.

Anything else you need educated on?
 
If I believe what, the attendance statistics posted on the official NCAA.org web site? The better question is what are yore grounds for not believing them? Well, other than it doesn't fit yore delusional narrative.

UConn is paying to leave the AAC for a few reasons. First, they want to play in a better basketball conference against many of their traditional rivals. Basketball is king at UConn. Second, they have found that they can't really be competitive in the AAC when it comes to football and they are tired of bleeding cash to try and be. Their fans don't really care, so I expect them to try the independent route for a few years and then either drop back down to FCS or drop football altogether. What they are paying to get out will be recovered in a few years from reduced expenses and increased NCAA credits from basketball.

Anything else you need educated on?

If Uconn leaves the AAC, do they have their sites set on a specific school to fill their void?
 
C'mon Sam. Get with it. We're not suggesting selling all of the tickets at half price and therefore have to sell twice as many tickets. Memphis didn't do that either. What is being suggested is that the tickets that remain to be sold, sell them at half price, get fans in the stands, make a good impression on tv, and pick up some ticket and concession revenue.
 
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C'mon Sam. Get with it. We're not suggesting selling all of the tickets at half price and therefore have to sell twice as many tickets. Memphis didn't do that either. What is being suggested is that the tickets that remain to be sold, sell them at half price, get fans in the stands, make a good impression on tv, and pick up some ticket and concession revenue.

Yeah, because lots of people would buy tickets at full price, knowing they would be half price in a couple of days.

Have you ever run a business?
 
Yeah, because lots of people would buy tickets at full price, knowing they would be half price in a couple of days.

Have you ever run a business?

Your argument would hold water if they were buying the tickets. They're not.

We're not getting more than 25-30k on a good day so there can be more than 10k seats left empty and unsold. If lowering ticket prices would drive an extra 5-8k people into the stadium it would be a wash and we'd have a better crowd.
 
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You really are bad at math. And at business planning. Unless, and you cannot, you can find me the magic “5-8K people” who would go to a game at $X but not at the current price, and unless, and you cannot, show that that the net income from 25K at $X is greater than 20K at full price, you have not argument.

Programs cost money. Pay the freight or don’t come. Typical Huntington attitude, wanting “others” to pay for what they want.
 
As far as you know? That's the problem. You're clueless to how much you don't know, think you know everything, and constantly regurgitate bullshit that is easily disproven.

Here you go - you can search attendance for each FBS team per year published by the NCAA. As you can see, what you said was completely wrong and what Banker said was completely right:

http://www.ncaa.org/championships/statistics/ncaa-football-attendance



This is great. You sarcastically call Banker a "genius" and tell him to do the math. Your claim was that Memphis played their last home game (prior to the SMU game) in front of 21K empty seats. You then claim the Memphis stadium has a 59K capacity. Finally, you show the Tulane game as having an attendance of 30K. That would mean they played in front of about 29K empty seats, not the 21K empty seats that you claimed.

Why would you tell Banker to "do the math, genius," when you clearly fvcked up the simple math, moron?



Memphis has hosted one SEC team in the last four years and two in the last eight years. That ruins your claim, huh, Sammy?

But let's look at the specifics you mentioned:

Kentucky - the last time Memphis played Kentucky in football was in 1957. Memphis has never hosted Kentucky in football.

Arkansas - the last time Memphis played Arkansas in football was in 1998, more than 20 years ago.

Tennessee - the last time Memphis played Tennessee was in 2010, nine years ago.

Why do you just throw random bullshit out there and hope people believe any of it?

Since Samantha has me blocked, somebody should copy-and-paste this so he can see how much of a fool we all know that he is. Don't quote me, as it will still be blocked for him from reading.


Copying just because I know Sam hates it and he's a dummy.
 
You really are bad at math. And at business planning. Unless, and you cannot, you can find me the magic “5-8K people” who would go to a game at $X but not at the current price, and unless, and you cannot, show that that the net income from 25K at $X is greater than 20K at full price, you have not argument.

Programs cost money. Pay the freight or don’t come. Typical Huntington attitude, wanting “others” to pay for what they want.
Sam, can't you read? Here's the deal. We've already sold 20,000 +/- tickets to the game AT FULL PRICE. Let's sell more at whatever price just to get butts in the seats.
 
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You really are bad at math. And at business planning. Unless, and you cannot, you can find me the magic “5-8K people” who would go to a game at $X but not at the current price, and unless, and you cannot, show that that the net income from 25K at $X is greater than 20K at full price, you have not argument.

Programs cost money. Pay the freight or don’t come. Typical Huntington attitude, wanting “others” to pay for what they want.

Let me be clear I am not saying sell all tickets for $9. However you're not selling tickets 25,001 to 38,227 on a regular basis without a marquee opponent. Designate certain section or tiers of sections at discount prices.

There really isn't a demand for Marshall football in its current state. You run zero risk having cheap seat tickets.
 
Sam, can't you read? Here's the deal. We've already sold 20,000 +/- tickets to the game AT FULL PRICE. Let's sell more at whatever price just to get butts in the seats.

Can’t you do math? Yes, “we” (MH, actually) sold 20K tickets at the correct price.

Why would anyone pay the correct price if they knew that the very same ticket to the very same ballgame would be on sale in a few days for half price?

You cannot answer that, nor can you answer the other question, which is please show me all the people who would attend the games but for the “high” cost of tickets? Heck, the students get in FREE and they don’t come. Personally, in decades of Herd fandom, I have NEVER met one person who told me they just cannot afford to go to our games.

Facts are facts. Fact is football costs money, pay the freight or don’t come. Fact also is that we could let people in free and not draw a statistically significant number greater than we do now.
 
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