Mitch Griffis
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No one really counts FCS offers. As to who is right and who is wrong with their ratings that's just depends on the scouts. 247 hands rating out like candy and their offer lists are usually wrong. They've shown players with offers from us that we never offered and even had players as "committed" to us that didn't even hold offers.
The ESPN rating is respectable. Rivals just decided a few years back to be a little bit more stingy with their ratings to try and be more accurate. There used to be a lot more 5-stars in years past than in recent years. When you do a search there are only 18 5-star recruits for 2025. In the past there would have been more.
Also you are on a RIVALS site, so of course when we discuss ratings we're going to discuss the RIVALS ratings. Especially the MODS. It's not good business to promote competitors.
I know it is kinda strange that a school would go out an buy a vat of footballs for a guy who isnt even going to play here.
That's because he is not a very good runner. Look at his Hudl. It shows exactly what we have; Slow feet, Ball hangs.
Three years ago, there was a really intelligent, charming, handsome, charismatic, successful, and very modest poster who weighed in on this topic. In fact, he was the one who introduced it even though the rest of the fans were full of great excitement for the Pennington offer. Let me see if I can find who that poster was . . .
Oh, it was me:
Oh, and that same poster also touched upon Fancher in that same thread. Here is what he said about Fancher. He seemed to hit the nail on the head about Fancher probably being successful with his legs early in his career but struggling to throw the ball other than the quick game and struggling to go through his progressions and resorting to his legs after his first or second look at not there:
Well, I'm not going to consider what 247 Sports suggests in terms of recruiting ratings for other reasons besides this being a Rivals page.
They're entirely too liberal with their ratings and worry more about camp attendance (ESPN the same) than they do film review or actual on-field production.
Too many instances of those outlets rating kids much higher than the end results would agree with.
FWIW: Compare the offers Cole had to the offers that Long had. I am not saying Long is the better option, but he was certainly a higher recruited QB prospect than Cole coming out of high school. Long enrolled in January and it will be interesting to see the rankings of the QB position at the end of the fall camp. JMO.
Long did have offers from Appy and ECU. He had offers from MAC schools Kent; Miami and Toledo. He also had offers Memphis; Arkansas State; UMASS and some FCS schools. Rivals had him listed as a 3 Stars recruit.
Long did have offers from Appy and ECU. He had offers from MAC schools Kent; Miami and Toledo. He also had offers Memphis; Arkansas State; UMASS and some FCS schools. Rivals had him listed as a 3 Stars recruit.
all the rankings go out the window now that we see them on the field. If you let star services pick your team, you'll be in big trouble.
Who cares about
Who cares about "stars" it is all about the schools that recruit you. Most of the schools that recruited Long were equal to or better programs than Marshall. Cole didn't have a Memphis, ECU or Appy recruit him. Cole has nearly three years in the program and Long has only had a few months at Marshall. Again, I don't have a dog in this fight.
Chad wasn't a 5* recruit either. But he turned out to be pretty good.
I think the best thing for Cole (and our fans) is for the fans to leave Chad out of the equation.
Let Cole be Cole.
Maybe he'll be great. Maybe not. At this point, all they share is a last name.
It's a different day but 3 of our best QB's were not highly recruited. Chad, Lefty and Cato.
And thats the thing... We are very rarely, if ever, going to get a QB that is highly coveted by the bigger programs. That's just reality... The 5th kid on Georgia's depth chart is more sought after than our starter. We have to find guys that fit whatever offense we are going to run and get the most out of them.
Our staff did that with Cato... Since then, not so much.
Might be easier said than done. Seems to me, from afar; at least. There is some marionette going on behind the scenes.
I'm probably going to regret asking this, but please elaborate.
Not sure why you would regret it, but seems to me. Someone or a committee on the BOG is micromanaging the football team, at least has some influence. If this is the case I truly feel for Huff, he wasn't hired to be a puppet coach. I wonder if he is pressured to do things (others) way.
Just my opinion.
I am not buying this. I will buy the fact that I dont think Huff hired his initial staff or at least most of them. I think his agent did most of the hiring.
So he has slow feet and the ball hangs? Makes sense then to throw from your own 1 yard line? Or we could have handed the ball off to Ali, as we did in the previous example, in order to give the offense some room to operate....
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IDK... If anything is going to get Huff an extension it will be the back half of our schedule. We play the five worst (projected) teams in our conference all this year thanks to a quirk in the scheduling... Win those 5, beat Stony Brook and maybe Western Michigan and he will probably be okay.
I find myself being wishy washy on the subject of retaining Huff past this year! Got off to a bad start blowing the ECU game with a 17 point fourth quarter lead after looking good blasting Navy in Annapolis the week before, didn't care for his post game comments after the ECU meltdown. Beats ND in South Bend for probably the biggest win in school history and turns right around and losses to BGSU. HIs 4 years here have been average at best but not really woeful. In fairness he's had to cash some checks he didn't write namely NIL money. Which in my opinion had badly eroded what advantage MU used to hold over similar schools in terms of fan support and tradition of winning. Seems money talks and everything else is irrelevant. I guess we'll see how 2024 plays out!
