All need removed. There is absolutely no reason to reject Hegseth's confirmation.
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They don't want someone coming in and cleaning up the DOD. We have had decades of these next in line or their turn or that General. Look what it got us. Even Mattis sucked at the end of the day.
why is he not qualified. Let's hear the CNN talking point. Your statement is a crock of shit.
Military vet, rank of major, bronze star recipient.
Ashton Carter checked none of these boxes. Was he remotely qualified?
There are others...
"derp, rachel maddow and joe & mika told me! rheeeeee!"
Everyone is qualified in the eyes of the Thicket of Idiots Cult members. Look at who they voted for president...
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First, I don’t believe there is something inherently wrong with our military. I’m sure there are opportunities to improve but that doesn’t mean it’s broken and isn’t still the finest fighting force on the planet.
Knowing this board, I know the “military is woke” comments are coming. I call BS and find that to be disrespectful to those in our military who aren’t “woke” and are there for all the right reasons doing all the right things.
Because of the above, I respect our military, their chain of command and the very thorough training and ascension process. There is a decade or more of military tactic and personnel management training for generals in our military, none of which Hegseth has gone through.
Related to that, I consider it a slap in the face to the thousands of soldiers who rank above and are more qualified. You are asking men who have devoted entire lifetimes to our country to now report to a National Guard, television host from the middle management ranks.
Other than two deployments of around a year each, Hegseth a National Guardsman who never served as a full time soldier. He has had almost no military training related to management and doesn’t truly understand the life of a full time soldier. Hegseth is articulate and spews all the rhetoric so many of you love to hear but that doesn’t make him our best option.
Trump chose him because he’s enamored by his television persona, and his cult like admiration, nothing more. So now, we’ve manufactured all these reasons as to why he’s the most qualified but there are thousands of full-time soldiers that meet all those same criteria, are ranked higher, and have vastly more training and experience.
At least rifle tried to make a contribution to this board and had the capacity to type more than worthless one liners.
Decent post, and just a couple thoughts to add:
I agree with you that an overwhelming majority of the military isn't woke. Many, as you know, are probably more redneck in nature and chose the military as a means to make a living, a living that they obviously enjoy doing and take great pride in. I believe the greater issue is with non military people trying to force feed their woke agenda on the military leaders, which then is forced upon the troops. That's the part that needs to go away. It's bad on moral, its bad for enrollment. Our own herdman has had these conversations at the waffle house with these soldiers.
As for the Secretary of Defense, let's wait and see how he does. I feel everyone needs a fair chance. If he's not up to it, I think with his background, he'll be the first to admit to it.
Now, what about rifle? Did he get caught messing around with someone else's woman again? Sustaining more 'schwin accidents' isn't something he should strive for longterm.
For a minute there I thought you were talking about Ashton Carter...
As for a slap in the face to the military and generals...
I had more issues with Obama's senior officer purge and his references to "my military" or Navy "corpse" men...
Did you have similar concerns about that?
First of all rank is not required to be Sec of Defense. It is a poltically appointed position.
Second, frankly NCO's and the enlisted ranks make the military work day to day. Pete was a Major and that is ok as well. He was a mid level officer with combat experience. Our Generals by and large got way to political. They forgot about the warfighter and folks making it work day to day, the enlisted ranks and lower ranking to mid ranking officers. Generals have been a big part of the problem. A slap in the face is the way things have been handled to the enlisted men and junior officers. There is the slap in the face.
Third, we haven't won a war in over 30 years. The first Gulf War. Look at what happened in Afghanistan, Iraq, the Afghanistan withdraw etc. We need a change from contiuing down the same old path.
The woke shit has to go. The milutary is meant to be a fighting and killing machine.
We have a recuriting and retention problem because people have lost faith in the the military, it needs fixed. Hiring the next in line and some other Lloyd Austin is not going to fix it.
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Good post and I can understand the perspective. I am not a fan of the term woke (it’s too broad and misapplied) but I do believe that to some degree our military troops need to get back to the business of being badasses.
I have no issue with giving him chance. Just like my view of Trump, I want what’s best for our country regardless of my personal opinions of him.
I don’t know what happened with rifle. I was only told that whatever it was, it was way over the line. Chris doesn’t perma ban many and I respect how he runs the site so I trust his judgement. Of course I wouldn’t have sold the site to him if I didn’t.
I’m not informed enough about the specifics to speak fluently about it so I’m not going to toss out some ignorant opinion.
I will say that in the case of both Bush and Obama, I have immense amount of respect. I didn’t fully align with either but I believe both to be good men who wanted the best for our country. For me, that carries a lot of water.
I actually hope we get more of this on the board. Lefties stopped trying to post anything with substance a while back - leftist talking points aren't difficult to argue against. It's way more fun to challenge their beliefs.
I don’t think that’s the case at all. Most left because it’s exhausting and frankly a waste of time.
The vast majority of responses to even the most civil of posts on here are some sort of personal attack or name calling. It’s mostly bravado just like your comment that leftist talking points are easy to argue against. The same exact thing can be said about right wing posts.
Do yourself a favor. Just scroll through all the threads on here and read the headlines. How many do you see that are looking for actual conversation vs. how many are grandstanding, calling the other side ignorant or stupid?
To be clear, I don’t care. It’s your board. Shape the culture however you want but let’s not lie to ourselves about what’s really going on here. It’s a right wing Trump fan club and anyone who disagrees is an ignorant, unintelligent moron.
The board used to be pretty engaging. The mods didn't stop one or two lib posters from childishly antagonizing right wingers because it kept engagement up. Once the right-wingers adopted the exact same tactic, suddenly the leftist posters had a problem with the board.
Well you were quick enough on the draw to do basically the same about Hegseth...
Meanwhile their policies have resulted in the deaths of how many in the military?
Fair response. That’s why a month ago or so I asked if we could just call a truce and start fresh.
I know extra in the real world. He’s a genuinely good dude. I think he feels constantly attacked but I still wish he too would chill a bit. But alas, it’s like convincing Israel and Palestine to get along.
My response on him wasn’t quick and my opinion hasn’t changed. I still think he’s a poor choice. Regardless, I’ll support him because our soldiers need him to succeed.
