Murkowski, McConnell, and Collins

[Rock98Dog]

First, I don’t believe there is something inherently wrong with our military. I’m sure there are opportunities to improve but that doesn’t mean it’s broken and isn’t still the finest fighting force on the planet.

Knowing this board, I know the “military is woke” comments are coming. I call BS and find that to be disrespectful to those in our military who aren’t “woke” and are there for all the right reasons doing all the right things.

Because of the above, I respect our military, their chain of command and the very thorough training and ascension process. There is a decade or more of military tactic and personnel management training for generals in our military, none of which Hegseth has gone through.

Related to that, I consider it a slap in the face to the thousands of soldiers who rank above and are more qualified. You are asking men who have devoted entire lifetimes to our country to now report to a National Guard, television host from the middle management ranks.

Other than two deployments of around a year each, Hegseth a National Guardsman who never served as a full time soldier. He has had almost no military training related to management and doesn’t truly understand the life of a full time soldier. Hegseth is articulate and spews all the rhetoric so many of you love to hear but that doesn’t make him our best option.

Trump chose him because he’s enamored by his television persona, and his cult like admiration, nothing more. So now, we’ve manufactured all these reasons as to why he’s the most qualified but there are thousands of full-time soldiers that meet all those same criteria, are ranked higher, and have vastly more training and experience.

It’s not the coach’s job to be the best football player on the team. This is the misconception of a leaders role.

Leadership, which is what this position really is, not a manager, is about setting a culture and vision and putting people with the desire to buy in and promote that vision and culture.

In large organizations you don’t actually get to people with true technical expertise until level 3 of the organizational chart, sometimes even further down. If the Secretary of Defense is ever drawing up battle plans or something like that you either have the worst micromanager of all time or a nuclear bomb has taken out the rest of the Pentagon.

The proof that our military has major problems is clear in the drastic fall off in recruiting and retention. You will be proven inaccurate in your take.

 

[mufan08]

Here is for @i am herdman

 

[WVUSerg]

Good post and I can understand the perspective. I am not a fan of the term woke (it’s too broad and misapplied) but I do believe that to some degree our military troops need to get back to the business of being badasses.

I have no issue with giving him chance. Just like my view of Trump, I want what’s best for our country regardless of my personal opinions of him.

I don’t know what happened with rifle. I was only told that whatever it was, it was way over the line. Chris doesn’t perma ban many and I respect how he runs the site so I trust his judgement. Of course I wouldn’t have sold the site to him if I didn’t.

The problem is that the military went woke. When service members are being taught about diversity and transgender rights the it takes away from the mission. Individualism is not something that the military needs to embrace.

Hegseth is a Bronze Star recipient, pretty high honor. He says he wants the military to get back to it's mission and not a social experiment.

 

[Marshall Jeff]

The problem is that the military went woke. When service members are being taught about diversity and transgender rights the it takes away from the mission. Individualism is not something that the military needs to embrace.

Hegseth is a Bronze Star recipient, pretty high honor. He says he wants the military to get back to it's mission and not a social experiment.

Let's not forget about the political purge of the military. They could brand you a white supremacists simply for voting Republican and did in many cases.

(Sorry, more than 1 line)

 

[KyMUfan]

I don’t think that’s the case at all. Most left because it’s exhausting and frankly a waste of time.

The vast majority of responses to even the most civil of posts on here are some sort of personal attack or name calling. It’s mostly bravado just like your comment that leftist talking points are easy to argue against. The same exact thing can be said about right wing posts.

Do yourself a favor. Just scroll through all the threads on here and read the headlines. How many do you see that are looking for actual conversation vs. how many are grandstanding, calling the other side ignorant or stupid?

To be clear, I don’t care. It’s your board. Shape the culture however you want but let’s not lie to ourselves about what’s really going on here. It’s a right wing Trump fan club and anyone who disagrees is an ignorant, unintelligent moron.

I appreciate you taking the time to actually answer and/or respond in a civil manner. I joined out of boredom as I spent 5 weeks in bed with an "undiagnosed" case of Covid. That was right after Biden was elected and this forum was full of Biden supporters and never Trumpers. I was immediately mocked and ridiculed. The recently banned party you referred to continuously attacked me and said particularly despicable things about my daughter. But Biden was such a failure there has been nothing for them to support, or ridicule others about so you don't see much of those individuals anymore.

I think it's interesting you mention Bush and Obama in the same breath. Many here, myself included, don't believe there has been much difference between the parties. I think that disconnect transcends party lines and is the driving force behind the Trump support.

Virtually every civil attempt I have had to engage anyone on the left I have been met with attacks, name-calling, etc. The left thinks racism is the greatest sin of all. If you you recall in the past week I've been called a racist, genocidal *****, so that ought to tell you something...

I don't visit here much, MU sports haven't been very fun lately and neither has this forum. Every now and then a topic will pop up that I'll get interested in. It's tiresome being continuously called names. That's why a couple are on ignore...

 

[extragreen]

I actually hope we get more of this on the board. Lefties stopped trying to post anything with substance a while back - leftist talking points aren't difficult to argue against. It's way more fun to challenge their beliefs.

^^^stupid lying "undecided voter".

 

[extragreen]

The board used to be pretty engaging. The mods didn't stop one or two lib posters from childishly antagonizing right wingers because it kept engagement up. Once the right-wingers adopted the exact same tactic, suddenly the leftist posters had a problem with the board.

You're a lying idiot. The pre-magats have been lying and calling names for 20 years. The pre-magat instrumental in starting it no longer posts here.

 

[extragreen]

That was right after Biden was elected and this forum was full of Biden supporters and never Trumpers.

Name them...should be easy as "this forum was full" of them.

The recently banned party you referred to continuously attacked me and said particularly despicable things about my daughter.

But Biden was such a failure there has been nothing for them to support, or ridicule others about so you don't see much of those individuals anymore.

You're a lying idiot.

If you you recall in the past week I've been called a racist, genocidal *****, so that ought to tell you something...

It's tiresome being continuously called names. That's why a couple are on ignore...

Snowflake is triggered^^^^

 

[extragreen]

Pete Hegseth’s first words as Secretary of Defense:“All praise and glory to God. His will be done."Amen.

That makes him a man of great "faith"...when he's not drunk, cheating on his wife, paid a woman $50,000 for "consensual" sex, and "pinky finger" promised not to drink on the job if confirmed.

 

[mufan08]

 

[extragreen]

^^^^^^^^^^

 

[MichiganHerd]

McConnell see the final score, or was he sleeping during the vote? Took the L, just like a few others that used to post here did.

 

[extragreen]

McConnell see the final score, or was he sleeping during the vote? Took the L, just like a few others that used to post here did.

sign here, coward >>>> ________________________ 🐔 🐔 🐔 🐔
I DON'T SEE THE COWARD'S SIGNATURE
extragreen signature>>>> extragreen

 

[herdfan06]

McConnell see the final score, or was he sleeping during the vote? Took the L, just like a few others that used to post here did.

I believe he is buffering, not sleeping.

 

[Marshall Jeff]

I believe he is buffering, not sleeping.

I guess you didn't get the memo that 1 liners are not cool.

 

[MichiganHerd]

I guess you didn't get the memo that 1 liners are not cool.

I saw it, and I immediately contacted rifle to get some tutorials on writing pleasing paragraphs. Personally, I think it had a great impact. Did you see some of my recent writings? I could keep writing, but im next up here at the wigs trimming shop. Rifle suggested a high fade with a combover to cover up the front. Recommended using some clay on the front to keep the receding hairline from showing.

 

[herdftblfan]

I saw it, and I immediately contacted rifle to get some tutorials on writing pleasing paragraphs. Personally, I think it had a great impact. Did you see some of my recent writings? I could keep writing, but im next up here at the wigs trimming shop. Rifle suggested a high fade with a combover to cover up the front. Recommended using some clay on the front to keep the receding hairline from showing.

Now look, that’s funny. I don’t care what side you are on.

 

[herdftblfan]

I guess you didn't get the memo that 1 liners are not cool.

To be clear, it’s worthless one-liners. Because this one actually had at least a little funny sarcasm included, it works.

I think the majority are a defense mechanism to compensate for you not having sh*t to say of value otherwise.

 

[Marshall Jeff]

Now look, that’s funny. I don’t care what side you are on.

My self-appointed authority has determined that this one-liner is worthless and of no value.

 

[extragreen]

I saw it, and I immediately contacted rifle to get some tutorials on writing pleasing paragraphs. Personally, I think it had a great impact. Did you see some of my recent writings? I could keep writing, but im next up here at the wigs trimming shop. Rifle suggested a high fade with a combover to cover up the front. Recommended using some clay on the front to keep the receding hairline from showing.

sign here, coward >>>> ________________________ 🐔 🐔 🐔 🐔
I DON'T SEE THE COWARD'S SIGNATURE
extragreen signature>>>> extragreen

 

[herdftblfan]

My self-appointed authority has determined that this one-liner is worthless and of no value.

You have no oversight in this case because it was two lines.

 

[KyMUfan]

You have no oversight in this case because it was two lines.

But it identified as a one liner...

 

[herdftblfan]

But it identified as a one liner...

The President has already signed an executive order saying their only two liners.

 

[herdfan06]

The President has already signed an executive order saying their only two liners.

Whose?

 

[Marshall Jeff]

Whose?

Now a one-worder. I see a trend happening.

 

[KyMUfan]

The President has already signed an executive order saying their only two liners.

Since you like Rifle...

"there are"...

No more they, them and their...

 

[herdftblfan]

Since you like Rifle...

"there are"...

No more they, them and their...

I’ll own it 100% because I know better and wasn’t paying attention.

 

[greengeezer]

At least rifle tried to make a contribution to this board and had the capacity to type more than worthless one liners.

There is something to be said for one liners. I’m still trying to finish some of Rifle’s 30 page posts.

 

[herdftblfan]

There is something to be said for one liners. I’m still trying to finish some of Rifle’s 30 page posts.

Not all one liners are worthless.

 

[Marshall Jeff]