Ain't religion grand?!
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Muslim Docs Refuse to Help Christian; He Dies
- Thread starter C.K. Ocsevol-Evad
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It's funny how all the examples you post of Muslims are of them actually following their religion's teachings to the letter, while your examples of 'Christians' are usually them doing something completely against Christianity. Yet you still insist that there is a moral equivalency.
No, I have posted numerous examples of Christians staying true to their beliefs and treating women as second-class citizens, killing children who talk back to their parents, etc.
It's a shame so many of you are cowards and don't stone to death adulterers, that a bride should be executed if she isn't a virgin, wearing garments of mixed fabric, working on the sabbath, eating pork/shellfish, etc.
He is so mixed up in the difference of the old and new testement. Alot of the NT he wouldnt understand anyways. Faith and grace are two more things rifle doesnt understand. . . The moral decay in new york and california is the very reason electorial college is grand. Most the rest of america are God believing people and dont want to live under the umbrella of perversion.
Seriously? You do realize that cheetos was elected by people who found it acceptable that he cheated on this wife, divorced twice, married 3 times. lie as if it's a virtue, grab women by the crotch, probably never opened a Bible unless it was to see if there were pictures, carpet bomb innocent civilians, knock millions of people off healthcare, and on and on. Any one who voted for or defends cheetos has altogether dismissed any notion of need for character and principle in an elected official.
Why? Did a democrat try to make the case that Bill Clinton was morally superior to a republican candidate? Or did you get entirely confused as usual?
Lets concede that point for a second. Doing so means that the teachings of Islam promotes very despicable acts of hatred. But doesn't it also say that Christianity is full of people who profess to follow it, but in reality don't? I've been in church a few times in my life (raised Catholic, wife is dedicated church goer), and I see very little evidence that outside of Sunday services that Christianity is influencing the way people behave and the good will they show toward each other.
Just look at this board. Most people here are conservative. That means that in the majority of the cases, people profess to be Christians. At the very least, most will defend Christianity when it is being confronted. I see very little behavior here that's exemplary of standards that most Christians espouse as virtues of their religion. I see a very mysogynistic view toward women. I see hatefulness toward one another...not the forgiveness that Christianity holds as a virtue. And this board is no different than what I witness in real life.
Yet acts of kindness like what rifle posted in Gander during 911, doesn't appear to be the standard worthy of the ultimate reward of Christianity. Subservience to a powerful being who created you flawed with all the propensities toward self serving behavior, will cast his creation into an abyss and eternity of pain and agony for living a strobe flash of life the way they were created. Acts of kindness and goodwill isn't the standard according to many of you.
I've talked about how good and kind a person my 88 year old mother is. Yet I've been told that she will suffer eternity in hell for being Catholic. The true nature of kindness isn't the gold standard. Subservience is. An all powerful God created a flawed life for the purpose of having them worship him. Acts of kindness doesn't pay the fare.
I very seldom jump into religion unless it involves science, but every once in a while I'll express my incredulity toward what I see. I support anyone that finds peace and strength through their religious belief. I don't attack it like rifle does trying to point out what he sees as hypocrisy. But I see very few people who follow the rules of Christianity in real life.
From where I stand religion is divisive. It divides much the aame way that political ideology divides on this board. History seems to support that as well.
Are you saying Christians are sinful?
We already know that.
Try living a Christian life and you'll understand why it's called warfare.
And then you'll understand the marvelousness of Grace.
We already know that.
Try living a Christian life and you'll understand why it's called warfare.
And then you'll understand the marvelousness of Grace.
He's not saying Christians are not sinners. He's saying a bunch of them are hateful assholes, like you.
I know precisely what he's saying, and he's speaking with little experience in the matter. So are you.
I'm not questioning the observation, and as I said I agree with it. I'm pointing out he's holding people to a higher bar than what is possible to clear.
I wouldn't call it ignorance in a bad way. But you're on the outside, and you're unable to see inside.
oh yes, we hear that all the time.
if you leftist had a good platform you wouldn't have to lie, race bait, cry sexism, religious discrimination, etc etc etc
It's Pakistan, I have no opinion. In the US, I would say throw their ass in prison.
...I know this is a troll job but I'll answer. Wife is sick/pregnant so I reserve the right to play that card and run away when the inevitable juxtaposition of these (plural - group of docs) terrible doctors and some awful Christian doctor comes up in your response ....
If you can't do your job, then don't show up for work. I have no problem with people refusing to do elective procedures on religious grounds (ie elective abortions, cosmetic procedures, circumcisions, etc)...but if you work in an ER or as a trauma surgeon if you can't do your damn job or refuse to then you shouldn't come in to work.
I refuse to talk politics or religion in the office, and I let my staff know I won't accept that. We care for everyone (I treat more indigent and charity cancer care than anyone else in my mid size city) at all times and our focus should be on giving world class care. I have lost business because my waiting room has some "characters" in it and the elite don't want to sit with them. I don't care. I'm not good at a lot of things, but I know I'm good at what I do and I pride myself on giving good care to everyone.
I can sit here and talk politics and tell you that if I lived in London I wouldn't be enthusiastic about an influx in Muslim people to my city (no E.G., I'm not scared, I just don't think it's helping), but that crap stops at the door of the hospital. I'm glad to treat Muslim patients and work with them if they care about patients.
The best way to show you're a good Christian, Muslim, or Athiest is compassion and service. A dying dude with literal s*it all over him needs plenty of help. If you're there to do that but refuse then go straight to jail like Raoul says. EMTALA.
It's not a troll job. It is me trying to see when your kind draws the line with religion. Is it at death?
If a person is in immense, unbearable pain/discomfort, you're fine with not treating them based on religious grounds. But if a person may end up dying, you don't support using religion as an excuse to not treat them. Am I correct in my understanding of that?
If a person is in immense, unbearable pain/discomfort, you're fine with not treating them based on religious grounds. But if a person may end up dying, you don't support using religion as an excuse to not treat them. Am I correct in my understanding of that?
It depends on your definition of "elective" I guess.
I'd say it's like so much we do in medicine - on a case by case basis. I'd be glad to weigh in on another case as long as you don't challenge it too much
You may be alluding to endometriosis and gyn not willing to Rx oral contraceptives. I don't agree with that but it's not life threatening and there are typically other gyns you can see for second opinion. There's no 2nd opinions in the ER.
I'd say it's like so much we do in medicine - on a case by case basis. I'd be glad to weigh in on another case as long as you don't challenge it too much
You may be alluding to endometriosis and gyn not willing to Rx oral contraceptives. I don't agree with that but it's not life threatening and there are typically other gyns you can see for second opinion. There's no 2nd opinions in the ER.
You have to stoop pretty low to clear mine... About 2 inches from the ground.
lol, says the guy that uses "moron" in 75% of his posts.
Here's an award from your Xenu alien friends...
It depends on your definition of "elective" I guess.
I'd say it's like so much we do in medicine - on a case by case basis. I'd be glad to weigh in on another case as long as you don't challenge it too much
You may be alluding to endometriosis and gyn not willing to Rx oral contraceptives. I don't agree with that but it's not life threatening and there are typically other gyns you can see for second opinion. There's no 2nd opinions in the ER.
So, again, you're fine with people being able to deny service (medical or not) to others based on religious grounds as long as nobody dies.
Are you sure you want to take that stance?
lol, says the guy that uses "moron" in 75% of his posts.
Here's an award from your Xenu alien friends...
^^^says the guy who started this conversation by calling me an a**hole, moron.
Give me an example.
You're painting with a broad brush here.
If you can't "deny service" is the other extreme you're forced to give service in all scenarios ?
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I'm proud to disagree with trump voters and defenders, God haters, warmongers, etc., and nasty little pillheads.
I dont hate anyone eg so you are so wrong. I cant hardly let a harsh comment stay until the sun goes down. Im a lover not a fighter
