National debt $20 trillion plus

[HerdBuckeye]

Who was the clown on this forum that posted back in early summer about how much Trump was paying down the national debt?? I'm sure this has to be a mistake. He has had to pay this down to a surplus by now.....

Come on not everyone at once....

 

[Dreh_Nagi_HC_IM]

Trump needs Congress to do their job. Budget & Tax Reform.

You'll see, once Congress gets off their ass and begins to pass legislation. If they're unwilling to do so, so be it. They'll have to explain it to their respective constituents.

 

[HerdBuckeye]

Trump needs Congress to do their job. Budget & Tax Reform.

You'll see, once Congress gets off their ass and begins to pass legislation. If they're unwilling to do so, so be it. They'll have to explain it to their respective constituents.

Fascinating explanation. Defer and deflect.

 

[raleighherdfan]

The debt will never be paid down. Period. Even so-called "conservatives" should understand that.

 

[sistersville]

The hurricane is costing the goverment. Give those folks all they need.

 

[i am herdman]

Wasn't me. Trump is not a conservative but some fail to understand that.

I like him and the job he is doing.

Also, the debt in this country is too far gone.

 

[extragreen]

Wasn't me. Trump is not a conservative but some fail to understand that.

I like him and the job he is doing.

Also, the debt in this country is too far gone.

Examples of cheetos policy that is not conservative.......go

 

[dherd]

$20,000,000,000,000.00 AND THOSE BIG SPENDING REPUBLICANS
JUST RAISED THE NATIONAL DEBT AGAIN. THAT'S MY MONEY THEY
ARE WASTING AND I'M SICK AND TIRED OF IT.

MEMO TO DONNIE TWO SCOOPS - GET YOUR FAT ASS OUT OF THOSE
$60,000.00 OF GOLF CART FEES I AM PAYING AND WALK. MAYBE YOU
CAN GET SOME WEIGHT OFF YOUR FAT ASS.

EVERY TIME I SEE HIM THE FOOL IS AT A TABLE EATING OR ABOUT TO EAT.
HOW MUCH IS THAT COSTING ME?

 

[wisemaniac]

Can't spell Triumph without Trump.

 

[i am herdman]

Examples of cheetos policy that is not conservative.......go

Foreign policy is not in line with modern day conservatism. He is actually not a huge hawk and does not want to be the world's police.

Spending and increasing the debt ceiling as in the deal he cut with Schumer the other day is not in line.

I am not totally sold Trump is a hard core social conservative, but he goes along with it.

 

[dherd]

CANT SPELL RUMP WITHOUT A TRUMP.

 

[dherd]

HERDMAN HOW IS IT THAT YOU CLAIM TO BE A CONSERVATIVE, AND
EVERY ELECTION YOU VOTE FOR THE CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATE.
THEN, AFTER THEY ARE IN OFFICE FOR A WHILE AND SCREW THE
COUNTRY UP ROYALY YOU CLAIM THEY ARE NOT CONSERVATIVE.

HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THAT?
.
I HAVE AN EXPLANATION - ONE THAT I HAVE STATED CONSISTENTLY
FOR DECADES. CONSERVATISM IS JUST A BIG LIE, TO TRICK THE
WEAK MINDED INTO GIVING POWER TO FILTHY RICH PEOPLE WHO
USE THAT POWER TO HURT THEM.

 

[HerdBuckeye]

No ones claiming this? I'll just wait till Ohio Herd chimes in. He might know who it was.....

 

[Dreh_Nagi_HC_IM]

Make Mexico pay for it.

 

[i am herdman]

HERDMAN HOW IS IT THAT YOU CLAIM TO BE A CONSERVATIVE, AND
EVERY ELECTION YOU VOTE FOR THE CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATE.
THEN, AFTER THEY ARE IN OFFICE FOR A WHILE AND SCREW THE
COUNTRY UP ROYALY YOU CLAIM THEY ARE NOT CONSERVATIVE.

HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THAT?
.
I HAVE AN EXPLANATION - ONE THAT I HAVE STATED CONSISTENTLY
FOR DECADES. CONSERVATISM IS JUST A BIG LIE, TO TRICK THE
WEAK MINDED INTO GIVING POWER TO FILTHY RICH PEOPLE WHO
USE THAT POWER TO HURT THEM.

I never said Trump was a conservative. He is a populist.

 

[HerdBuckeye]

Make Mexico pay for it.

Mexico's national debt is just a sliver of their GDP compared to ours.

 

[Dreh_Nagi_HC_IM]

Mexico's national debt is just a sliver of their GDP compared to ours.

 

[Herdfaninnoke]

WINNING!!!


The New York Times’ Carl Huse


Mr. McConnell said that he insisted the newly passed legislation preserve Treasury’s ability to apply ‘extraordinary measures’ and shift money within government accounts to pay off debt and extend federal borrowing power.

That will delay the need for another increase in the debt limit well beyond the December deadline that Democrats have been trumpeting as their big moment of leverage. And Mr. McConnell said he did so over the objections of Senator Chuck Schumer of New York, the Democratic leader and aforementioned counterpart.

In fact, Mr. McConnell said, the debt limit will not have to be increased until well into 2018, taking that volatile subject off the table for the December spending talks, and eliminating the Democrats’ most dangerous bargaining chip in the first round of negotiations.

Separating the debt ceiling from the deadline to fund the government also addresses one of the main complaints of conservatives who were unhappy that last week’s legislation linked hurricane relief and the increase in the debt limit, forcing many to either cast a debt limit vote they were unhappy about or to oppose hurricane relief.

 

[extragreen]

Foreign policy is not in line with modern day conservatism. He is actually not a huge hawk and does not want to be the world's police.

I'm glad he's not sparring with NK, not bombing Syria, and not increasing boots on the ground in Afghanistan.

Spending and increasing the debt ceiling as in the deal he cut with Schumer the other day is not in line.

Spending on WHAT?
The debt ceiling has been raised how many times under both parties with how many exceptions?

I am not totally sold Trump is a hard core social conservative, but he goes along with it.

I asked for policies, not his possible intentions.

 

[extragreen]

Mr. McConnell said that he insisted the newly passed legislation preserve Treasury’s ability to apply ‘extraordinary measures’ and shift money within government accounts to pay off debt and extend federal borrowing power.

 

[i am herdman]

I'm glad he's not sparring with NK, not bombing Syria, and not increasing boots on the ground in Afghanistan.



Spending on WHAT?
The debt ceiling has been raised how many times under both parties with how many exceptions?



I asked for policies, not his possible intentions.

Every President since Truman has sparred with N Korea and now they are a nuclear threat. They are a direct threat to the USA.

Syria and Afghanistan were already there when he came into office.

Trump agreed with a short temporary debt ceiling increase much to his own party's reservations. He also will spend more on infrastructure.

As the commander in chief and POTUS he certainly sets the tone for foreign policy and in fact sets policy. You can argue over semantics but he is the foreign policy face/

 

[extragreen]

Every President since Truman has sparred with N Korea and now they are a nuclear threat. They are a direct threat to the USA.

Like conservatives before him.

Syria and Afghanistan were already there when he came into office.

Not unlike conservatives before him.

Trump agreed with a short temporary debt ceiling increase much to his own party's reservations. He also will spend more on infrastructure.

Like conservatives before him.

As the commander in chief and POTUS he certainly sets the tone for foreign policy and in fact sets policy. You can argue over semantics but he is the foreign policy face/

Like conservatives before him.

So, you got nothing.

 

[sistersville]

Herdman you takin a 8 count?

 

[i am herdman]

Herdman you takin a 8 count?

8 count of what?

 

[i am herdman]

Like conservatives before him.



Not unlike conservatives before him.



Like conservatives before him.



Like conservatives before him.

So, you got nothing.

I said every President in regard to N Korea. In case you missed it Obama had us in Afghanistan and was doing something in Syria. Again, in case you missed it Trump pissed off his own party with the recent deal with Schumer. That was not a conservative move. Again, his foreign policy is not one filled neo conservative ideas and actions. He is not a Dick Cheney or Donald Rumsfeld. He is not even a war hawk in the mold of John McCain.

Why do you think the Republican establishment is pissed he is the leader of their party? he is not a conservative. He is mostly a populist with more northeast Republican leanings in terms of foreign policy, social issues, and domestic spending.

 

[extragreen]

I said every President in regard to N Korea. In case you missed it Obama had us in Afghanistan and was doing something in Syria

Dealing with NK means he's like every other conservative president since when?
And NO, Obama did not have us in Afghanistan, that was a continuation of Bush.

Again, in case you missed it Trump pissed off his own party with the recent deal with Schumer. That was not a conservative move.

Since when have conservatives not voted for a debt ceiling?

Again, his foreign policy is not one filled neo conservative ideas and actions. He is not a Dick Cheney or Donald Rumsfeld. He is not even a war hawk in the mold of John McCain.

Yes it is. He's dealing with NK similar to what Bush did. I don't know of anyone as hawkish as the 3 you mentioned, but that doesn't mean cheetos is not hawkish.

Why do you think the Republican establishment is pissed he is the leader of their party?

Because he makes them look worse than they are, which is a feat in and of itself.

he is not a conservative.

His policies ARE.

He is mostly a populist

A conservative populist. See policies for proof....

 

[i am herdman]

Dealing with NK means he's like every other conservative president since when?
And NO, Obama did not have us in Afghanistan, that was a continuation of Bush.



Since when have conservatives not voted for a debt ceiling?



Yes it is. He's dealing with NK similar to what Bush did. I don't know of anyone as hawkish as the 3 you mentioned, but that doesn't mean cheetos is not hawkish.



Because he makes them look worse than they are, which is a feat in and of itself.



His policies ARE.



A conservative populist. See policies for proof....

Trump didn't get us in Afghanistan either. Hello. And every President has dealt with the idiots in N Korea and he has a nuke program now. Not sure how Trump is being hawkish with N Korea.

 

[ohio herd]

No ones claiming this? I'll just wait till Ohio Herd chimes in. He might know who it was.....

wasn't me but he sure isn't running it up like Obama was

 

[Bankerreturns]

The national debt was $19.95 trillion when Trump took office. It's amazing it took 8 months to go up just over $50 billion. Obama's average increase was $100 billion per month over his entire 8 year term in office. The Trump increase represents just 6% of the Obama average.

 

[extragreen]

Trump didn't get us in Afghanistan either. Hello. And every President has dealt with the idiots in N Korea and he has a nuke program now. Not sure how Trump is being hawkish with N Korea.

You're totally oblivious to the rhetoric of cheetos toward NK? You're unaware of the plan for more troops in Afghanistan? You've forgotten the "I have a plan to defeat ISIS in 30 days? I will declare China a currency manipulator?

 

[extragreen]

wasn't me but he sure isn't running it up like Obama was

Yes, he is.

 

[extragreen]

The national debt was $19.95 trillion when Trump took office. It's amazing it took 8 months to go up just over $50 billion. Obama's average increase was $100 billion per month over his entire 8 year term in office. The Trump increase represents just 6% of the Obama average.

Seriously? You in the financial sector so which is it...you're that blinded or you think we are? The debt slowed on paper only due to accounting procedures and holding off on paying some U S bills in order to stay within the debt limit until the ceiling was raised. The debt ceiling was raised a few days ago and now the debt will start showing up on paper.

Over night, between 9/7 and 9/8 the debt increased by over 300 billion.

 

[raleighherdfan]

The debt slowed on paper only due to accounting procedures and holding off on paying some U S bills in order to stay within the debt limit until the ceiling was raised

Link? Who didn't get paid?

"Accounting procedures"? bahahahahaha

 

[sistersville]

8 count of what?

I was waiting for you to reply to extragreen. Thought you might bail.

 

[i am herdman]

You're totally oblivious to the rhetoric of cheetos toward NK? You're unaware of the plan for more troops in Afghanistan? You've forgotten the "I have a plan to defeat ISIS in 30 days? I will declare China a currency manipulator?

Trump's "threats" were defensive in nature. You realize the idiots were threatening Guam which is a US territory and major Naval base?

Obama also put more troops in Afghanistan. Was he a war hawk?

Maybe not 30 days but we are kicking the shit out of ISIS.

China? They are a manipulator.

 

[i am herdman]

I was waiting for you to reply to extragreen. Thought you might bail.

Well, sisters. I am on here a lot but not every minute or second. Greed just argues to argue. Sometimes I just ignore him.

 

[sistersville]

Your one of the stars of the board herdman. Enjoy your thoughts.

 

[NutcaseConservative]

Wasn't me. Trump is not a conservative but some fail to understand that.

I like him and the job he is doing.

Also, the debt in this country is too far gone.

Will you still support Trump when he inevitably switches back to the Democratic party?

 

[i am herdman]

Will you still support Trump when he inevitably switches back to the Democratic party?

Yes

 

[extragreen]

Trump's "threats" were defensive in nature.

They were ridiculously inciting.

Obama also put more troops in Afghanistan. Was he a war hawk?

And we have drawn down under obama since then.

Maybe not 30 days but we are kicking the shit out of ISIS.

Sure.

China? They are a manipulator.

So, cheetos lied once when he said China was a manipulator, lied again when he said he'd declare China, and a third time when he said China is not a manipulator.