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I was watching the local news where they were introducing the new Morgantown School's football coach. Right beside Coach Brown was school president Gordon Gee. I had forgotten he was still around.

I wonder if the bowtied bigot Gee checked out Brown before he was hired to see if he was Catholic. We know from his public statement while at Ohio State that Gee doesn't like Catholics. Only in West Virginia could this guy be allowed to run a university.
 
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greengeezer said:
I was watching the local news where they were introducing the new Morgantown School's football coach. Right beside Coach Brown was school president Gordon Gee. I had forgotten he was still around.

I wonder if the bowtied bigot Gee checked out Brown before he was hired to see if he was Catholic. We know from his public statement while at Ohio State that Gee doesn't like Catholics. Only in West Virginia could this guy be allowed to run a university.
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Yeah, Gee's biases and big mouth have cost him before concerning jobs. He's had so many college jobs before that apparently schools continue to hire him based on longevity if nothing else. Given the average WVU fan's apparent IQ being a point or two above the mental retardation classification, Gee is obviously at the right place and in the right position for his qualifications!!!
 
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Yeah, Gee's biases and big mouth have cost him before concerning jobs. He's had so many college jobs before that apparently schools continue to hire him based on longevity if nothing else. Given the average WVU fan's apparent IQ being a point or two above the mental retardation classification, Gee is obviously at the right place and in the right position for his qualifications!!!
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But Gee does one thing well, recruits Students...I wish Marshalls President would travel the state meeting the Guidance Counselors at high schools to increase the student body
 
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But Gee does one thing well, recruits Students...I wish Marshalls President would travel the state meeting the Guidance Counselors at high schools to increase the student body
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He has met his match during his second stint in WV. The most current enrollment figures show numbers falling far short of projections at the main campus and satalitte campuses. His 2020 projected goal will come in way below projection. Of course the same problems exist at all WV colleges with one, maybe two, exceptions.
 
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He has met his match during his second stint in WV. The most current enrollment figures show numbers falling far short of projections at the main campus and satalitte campuses. His 2020 projected goal will come in way below projection. Of course the same problems exist at all WV colleges with one, maybe two, exceptions.
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In the Eastern Panhandle Gee stops into every high school here once per year recruiting...a WVU football staff member makes contact with local high school coaches all in an effort to recruit students and athletes
 
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Brown is not Catholic.

The racist and religious bigot Gee recruits students for WVU very well. Just not in WV. WVU has no real interest in WV students. Never has. Oh, if you want to be around the New Jersites, they will let you sit in the back of the room, sure, but understand you are who they HAVE to take, the New Jersite is who they WANT to take.

The future growth of MU and WVU enrollment is a state government with the moral courage to SHUT DOWN some of our too many state colleges. Starting with WV State, the biggest taxwaste in WV.
 
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In the Eastern Panhandle Gee stops into every high school here once per year recruiting...a WVU football staff member makes contact with local high school coaches all in an effort to recruit students and athletes
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I’m sure he does, I was reciting the cold statistics.

*** WV State will not be shuttered, might as well move past that wish.
 
5150 said:
But Gee does one thing well, recruits Students...I wish Marshalls President would travel the state meeting the Guidance Counselors at high schools to increase the student body
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Dr. Gilbert has been to WV high schools recruiting students the last 2 years.
 
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Dr. Gilbert has been to WV high schools recruiting students the last 2 years.
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Except for the panhandle, because Marshall refuses to recruit there.





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From Dr Gilbert last March.....

Over the past three months, I have traveled to high schools in southern and central West Virginia. I embarked on this tour simply to get in front of students — to tell them face to face we want them to come to Marshall University.

The tour has taken us to 32 high schools in 12 counties, and has placed us in front of more than 3,500 juniors and seniors. It has been an awesome experience and a successful recruiting venture. Even though many of the students had already applied for admission to Marshall, we have picked up more than 580 new applications during these tour visits!

https://www.herald-dispatch.com/new...cle_7a0d751a-a7a9-5ca0-bd59-2a6068d03ed9.html
 
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5150 said:
But Gee does one thing well, recruits Students...I wish Marshalls President would travel the state meeting the Guidance Counselors at high schools to increase the student body
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What ever happen to President Gilbert's plan to offer eastern Ky & northern Ohio students instate tuition to recruit & increase Marshall's student enrollment? I HERD him say [4 years ago]...."the best way to increase college revenue is to recruit & build the student population." "We need to get that fixed"......Mark Synder quote many times....

HerdZilla22 in Charlotte
 
The Real SamC said:
Brown is not Catholic.

The racist and religious bigot Gee recruits students for WVU very well. Just not in WV. WVU has no real interest in WV students. Never has. Oh, if you want to be around the New Jersites, they will let you sit in the back of the room, sure, but understand you are who they HAVE to take, the New Jersite is who they WANT to take.

The future growth of MU and WVU enrollment is a state government with the moral courage to SHUT DOWN some of our too many state colleges. Starting with WV State, the biggest taxwaste in WV.
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Same thing.....Happening at a lot of southern universities. While in Texas during the Holidays...a recent law school graduate who attended undergrad @ ALABAMA...."the current enrollment at Bama is nearing 70% Northern students"...."the University wants to attract northern kids to enhance the scholastic reputation & northern culture to Alabama." I bet that NORTHERN $$$$$ has a lot to do with it too....."Note...it is most difficult for Texas HS graduates to get into Univ of Texas---Austin. LOTS of Texas kids opt for Oklahoma, Arkansas & Mississippi....same thing at Duke University [mostly out of state students]."

HerdZilla22 in Charlotte
 
Don't know how much MU does or doesn't recruit students from the Eastern Panhandle. Would appear to be a no brainer since the 3 counties there are probably the fastest growing area in the state in terms of population. When I was at MU YEARS ago there were quite a few guys from Martinsburg in my dorm, now Holderby Hall. I believe one of Mike D'Antoni's team mates, Gary Orsini, was from that area and at least a few years ago was running a family business there. Wasn't Terry Gardener who caught the winning TD pass in 1971 vs. Xavier from Martinsburg? Can't quite recall.

Agree with some saying we should be recruiting that area more heavily due to growing #s of potential students. Distance and time from Huntington is one drawback; a lot of closer schools available to panhandle students, in state, WVU, Shepherd, Fairmont, as well as out of state in nearby MD, VA, and even PA. However, when the state ever does finish Corridor H to the VA line, then the panhandle gets closer to H-town in terms of travel. Down I-81 just below Winchester then cross over into WV and hit Cor. H all the way to Weston where you hit I-79 south to Charleston and I-64 west to H-town!!

In terms of visiting state schools and recruiting students in state, I imagine Gordy Gee has 10 times, if not more, the resources. $$$, etc., for such activities than what President Gilbert has for the same things.
 
oldeherd said:
Don't know how much MU does or doesn't recruit students from the Eastern Panhandle. Would appear to be a no brainer since the 3 counties there are probably the fastest growing area in the state in terms of population. When I was at MU YEARS ago there were quite a few guys from Martinsburg in my dorm, now Holderby Hall. I believe one of Mike D'Antoni's team mates, Gary Orsini, was from that area and at least a few years ago was running a family business there. Wasn't Terry Gardener who caught the winning TD pass in 1971 vs. Xavier from Martinsburg? Can't quite recall.

Agree with some saying we should be recruiting that area more heavily due to growing #s of potential students. Distance and time from Huntington is one drawback; a lot of closer schools available to panhandle students, in state, WVU, Shepherd, Fairmont, as well as out of state in nearby MD, VA, and even PA. However, when the state ever does finish Corridor H to the VA line, then the panhandle gets closer to H-town in terms of travel. Down I-81 just below Winchester then cross over into WV and hit Cor. H all the way to Weston where you hit I-79 south to Charleston and I-64 west to H-town!!

In terms of visiting state schools and recruiting students in state, I imagine Gordy Gee has 10 times, if not more, the resources. $$$, etc., for such activities than what President Gilbert has for the same things.
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Gilbert just needs to get in the car...rent a hotel room and go to the high schools....get an active alumni association started....recruit athletes and leverage off of that PR...go speak at Rotary and Chamber events....not hard...Gee does it...and his new football coach will be doing it more
 
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Gee demands first class transportation, food, and lodging. He won't even drive to Charleston for meetings, taking a private plane instead. This costs the taxpayers of our state about $38,000 a pop.

While at Ohio State, he was reported to have charged the school $64, 000. for the signature bowties he wears. That school finally wised up and sent him packing.

I wish I were a student at a West Virginia school where he was visiting. The question I would ask him: "Dr. Gee, considering your past public statements, what skin colors and religions are welcome at your school?"
 
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We should offer reduced in state tuition to kids with a 1370 or better on the SAT, recruit the best and brightest from anywhere and everywhere.

Broaden the online classes to attract more alumni that way.

MU should push for 30k students

GET A LAW SCHOOL
 
IslandHerd1 said:
We should offer reduced in state tuition to kids with a 1370 or better on the SAT, recruit the best and brightest from anywhere and everywhere.

Broaden the online classes to attract more alumni that way.

MU should push for 30k students

GET A LAW SCHOOL
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Do you seriously think the WV legislature with all those WVU grads in it (many of them lawyers) would approve a Marshall Law School?
 
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[QUOTE="oldeherd, post: 592186, member: I imagine Gordy Gee has 10 times, if not more, the resources. $$$, etc., for such activities than what President Gilbert has for the same things.
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Gee demands first class transportation, food, and lodging. He won't even drive to Charleston for meetings, taking a private plane instead. This costs the taxpayers of our state about $38,000 a pop.

While at Ohio State, he was reported to have charged the school $64, 000. for the signature bowties he wears. That school finally wised up and sent him packing.

I wish I were a student at a West Virginia school where he was visiting. The question I would ask him: "Dr. Gee, considering your past public statements, what skin colors and religions are welcome at your school?"[/QUOTE]
Gee should just change the mascot name from Mountaineers to Wasps.
 
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Do you seriously think the WV legislature with all those WVU grads in it (many of them lawyers) would approve a Marshall Law School?
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Take it to the Supreme Court and challenge the decision if not.

No public university should be told what it can offer
 
Recruiting out-of-state (and that is a different discussion than somebody just across the river staying at home and driving to school) students is a fool's errand for MU, and in this respect, MU and WVU are totally different.

For WVU, most of the states it looks to for students have a highly tiered admissions policy, with only the best and brightest getting into the public schools with big time sports, and several states not really having big time sports in the first place. Others are sent to lesser institutions. For the kid thin enveloped by his home state's top school, WVU offers:

- Nearly open admissions. If someone has business at ANY college, he can get into WVU.
- Highly subsidized tuition, often LESS than in-state tuition where they came from.
- Cupcake academics.
- An "Animal House" atmosphere.
- Something similar to "big time" athletics. If he is willing to suspend disbelief.

Now on to Marshall, we are in a different situation. We are grossly underfunded. We have the difficult job of educating the products of WV's not-world-class public schools, which WVU turned its back on decades ago. We, and I love the school, are what we are.

Now, for a true out of state student (not nearby Ohio or Kentucky commuters) without some kind of relationship to MU (child of alumni or other displaced local, needs our world-class forensic science or HELP program, other unusual factor) exactly why would a kid choose Marshall over a highly similar institution he can attend at lower cost in his home state?

Until you can answer that, it is like owning a movie theatre in Parkersburg and discussing how to get people in Beckley to choose to go to the movies there, driving by 15 similar operations that are closer.

No, the true path for MU is to encourage the closure of most of WV's too many state colleges. The interstates have been finished for decades. Many are on the verge of collapse (Glenville State, for example, has so few students remaining, it really cannot guarantee graduation in four years). Tech already collapsed. More will. That is the path forward for MU.

As to a law school, MU will never have one, and WV does not need more lawyers. The taxwasters at State, playing their eternal race card (at a school that is whiter than MU) are again making noise about one. WVU will oppose. MU should as well. Sometime our interests are the same, and this is one of them. Closure of WV State should be priority one for both schools.
 
greengeezer said:
[QUOTE="oldeherd, post: 592186, member: I imagine Gordy Gee has 10 times, if not more, the resources. $$$, etc., for such activities than what President Gilbert has for the same things.
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Gee demands first class transportation, food, and lodging. He won't even drive to Charleston for meetings, taking a private plane instead. This costs the taxpayers of our state about $38,000 a pop.

While at Ohio State, he was reported to have charged the school $64, 000. for the signature bowties he wears. That school finally wised up and sent him packing.

I wish I were a student at a West Virginia school where he was visiting. The question I would ask him: "Dr. Gee, considering your past public statements, what skin colors and religions are welcome at your school?"[/QUOTE]
who cares what Gee has...Gilbert needs to get out and recruit
 
CarolinaZilla69 said:
What ever happen to President Gilbert's plan to offer eastern Ky & northern Ohio students instate tuition to recruit & increase Marshall's student enrollment? I HERD him say [4 years ago]...."the best way to increase college revenue is to recruit & build the student population." "We need to get that fixed"......Mark Synder quote many times....

HerdZilla22 in Charlotte
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4 years ago? You mean the guy that just started work at Marshall in 2016?
 
This is all you need to know on Gee.

https://www.fayettetribune.com/opin...cle_fde2cd32-14f7-11e9-adb6-f3c3739b8ab9.html

I can always blame the feeble minded wvu support system for this.
Thinking a person who was fired from a major school, would come in and make wvu some kind of global wonder.
Few things...
WV doesn't want modernization. They are so against it they're willing to believe coal is the driving force for the future...bwahaha!
Gee is from a university that actually wants to spend money and has the support of everyone. Wvu doesn't have that, they don't have the money to expand.
Have they expanded? Yes. But a ratty old flying WV flag atop a crumbling building barely 1/4 full or even open, does that really constitute expansion? If so, then I have expanded MU to Switzerland and Australia by myself.

But hey, all Gee has to do is say, "I was at ohio state!" Then the people reflect back to football and presume, because of name association alone, he is some kind of demi-god.
The article basically says that he has fallen tremendously well short of his projected goals...which actually says a few things:

wvu isn't as great as it is made out to be.
People are still leaving WV and would rather take up residency out of state and attend there.
Dreaming and speaking but failing delivering is an awful trait for leadership and one Gee seems to be doing his best at.

Finally, it shows Gee doesn't necessarily have the best interest of WV in mind (shocker!?) and is caught up in his lavish lifestyle...where he secretly curses his Bidet being made of porcelain and not solid gold.
I think he tends to confuse unlimited perdonal funding as president of a university vs. the actual limited funding of a poor state.

People are critical of MU and their slowed growth, but at least they are somewhat realistic in the approach and that it will be slow.
Then again this wvu...their reality simply doesn't exist.
 
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Sam C's Alt Account said:
This is all you need to know on Gee.

https://www.fayettetribune.com/opin...cle_fde2cd32-14f7-11e9-adb6-f3c3739b8ab9.html

I can always blame the feeble minded wvu support system for this.
Thinking a person who was fired from a major school, would come in and make wvu some kind of global wonder.
Few things...
WV doesn't want modernization. They are so against it they're willing to believe coal is the driving force for the future...bwahaha!
Gee is from a university that actually wants to spend money and has the support of everyone. Wvu doesn't have that, they don't have the money to expand.
Have they expanded? Yes. But a ratty old flying WV flag atop a crumbling building barely 1/4 full or even open, does that really constitute expansion? If so, then I have expanded MU to Switzerland and Australia by myself.

But hey, all Gee has to do is say, "I was at ohio state!" Then the people reflect back to football and presume, because of name association alone, he is some kind of demi-god.
The article basically says that he has fallen tremendously well short of his projected goals...which actually says a few things:

wvu isn't as great as it is made out to be.
People are still leaving WV and would rather take up residency out of state and attend there.
Dreaming and speaking but failing delivering is an awful trait for leadership and one Gee seems to be doing his best at.

Finally, it shows Gee doesn't necessarily have the best interest of WV in mind (shocker!?) and is caught up in his lavish lifestyle...where he secretly curses his Bidet being made of porcelain and not solid gold.
I think he tends to confuse unlimited perdonal funding as president of a university vs. the actual limited funding of a poor state.

People are critical of MU and their slowed growth, but at least they are somewhat realistic in the approach and that it will be slow.
Then again this wvu...their reality simply doesn't exist.
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I have no "alt account".
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"Its not possible for more than 1 person to think wvu sucks...does it?"
"No. Its the same person just different accounts."
"Yeah! Thats it!!!"

Sort of like...

"I couldn't get into wvu...how do I make myself feel better about that?"
"Maybe if I insult everyone who speaks down about the program, the students and real alumni will accept me as one of their own?"
"Yeah! Do that! I mean, if celebrities get degrees for speaking at schools, I could get one for defending it on online message boards! Yeah, I'm pretty sure thats how it works?"
 
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4 years ago? You mean the guy that just started work at Marshall in 2016?
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Pardon me...it was THREE (3) years ago........he said this at the Marshall Cincy Area Alumni Function......I was there to play in their golf outing [$$$] and help raise $$$ for MARSHALL....

Were you Present?

HerdZilla22 in Charlotte
 
GoHerdMarshallYes said:
This is all you need to know on Gee.

https://www.fayettetribune.com/opin...cle_fde2cd32-14f7-11e9-adb6-f3c3739b8ab9.html

I can always blame the feeble minded wvu support system for this.
Thinking a person who was fired from a major school, would come in and make wvu some kind of global wonder.
Few things...
WV doesn't want modernization. They are so against it they're willing to believe coal is the driving force for the future...bwahaha!
Gee is from a university that actually wants to spend money and has the support of everyone. Wvu doesn't have that, they don't have the money to expand.
Have they expanded? Yes. But a ratty old flying WV flag atop a crumbling building barely 1/4 full or even open, does that really constitute expansion? If so, then I have expanded MU to Switzerland and Australia by myself.

But hey, all Gee has to do is say, "I was at ohio state!" Then the people reflect back to football and presume, because of name association alone, he is some kind of demi-god.
The article basically says that he has fallen tremendously well short of his projected goals...which actually says a few things:

wvu isn't as great as it is made out to be.
People are still leaving WV and would rather take up residency out of state and attend there.
Dreaming and speaking but failing delivering is an awful trait for leadership and one Gee seems to be doing his best at.

Finally, it shows Gee doesn't necessarily have the best interest of WV in mind (shocker!?) and is caught up in his lavish lifestyle...where he secretly curses his Bidet being made of porcelain and not solid gold.
I think he tends to confuse unlimited perdonal funding as president of a university vs. the actual limited funding of a poor state.

People are critical of MU and their slowed growth, but at least they are somewhat realistic in the approach and that it will be slow.
Then again this wvu...their reality simply doesn't exist.
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Where do I even begin? You are wrong about so many things I don’t even know where to start.

Within the last year, WVU reached and then exceeded its $1 billion State of Minds Campaign, raising over $1.2 billion from more than 90,000 donors.

There are new buildings going up all over Morgantown for academics or residence hall life, which means the student enrollment is continually increasing. The Sunnyside area doesn’t even resemble its appearance from about 10 years ago. WVU also received a large donation from an alumnus that is going to be utilized to construct a new, state of the art building to house the College of Business right on the Waterfront.

You have the right to your opinion about Gee’s past comments. However, you are completely wrong about his effectiveness as the leader of West Virginia University. He’s very well respected among his peers and he is an exceptional fundraiser. I’m very glad my alma mater has such effective leadership.
 
WVUtotheBig12 said:
Where do I even begin? You are wrong about so many things I don’t even know where to start.

Within the last year, WVU reached and then exceeded its $1 billion State of Minds Campaign, raising over $1.2 billion from more than 90,000 donors.

There are new buildings going up all over Morgantown for academics or residence hall life, which means the student enrollment is continually increasing. The Sunnyside area doesn’t even resemble its appearance from about 10 years ago. WVU also received a large donation from an alumnus that is going to be utilized to construct a new, state of the art building to house the College of Business right on the Waterfront.

You have the right to your opinion about Gee’s past comments. However, you are completely wrong about his effectiveness as the leader of West Virginia University. He’s very well respected among his peers and he is an exceptional fundraiser. I’m very glad my alma mater has such effective leadership.
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Funny, almost every article about Gee says the same thing that you do. The man has the ability to raise funds for a university. He has excelled at this at nearly every stop on his academic career.

The problem is how long can an institution ignore the elitism and bigotry while he rakes in the cash. His last stop was Ohio State where he persuaded potential donors to pony up millions, but even that school, where scandals are the norm, could only hold their nose for so long. Eventually, Gee was shown the door.

Seems to be human nature to ignore the bigot behind the curtain as long as out front, he is giving us the big show of flash and smoke.
 
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