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Chuck Smith: Tech community still reeling; Beckley plan too expensive
By Chuck Smith


From its founding in 1895, West Virginia Institute of Technology has fulfilled a unique and special mission to foster the very best in science and practical research to serve the greater needs of our state and nation.

Tech succeeded and over time expanded its scope to encompass other highly successful programs, such as accounting, education, nursing and the nationally-renowned printing technology program.

Tech engineers, faculty and graduates have always been at the center of the growth of the mining and petro-chemical industries and the economic development of the entire Kanawha Valley. Their knowledge and work ethic helped transform the economy of West Virginia during the great post-war expansion.

Tech graduates have been prized worldwide for their useful blend of theoretical and applied knowledge and have risen to the top of their fields. Graduates were proud to say they went to West Virginia Tech, and employers were eager to hire them.

Unfortunately, from the 1980s to 1996, West Virginia Tech experienced a growing problem of underfunding by the West Virginia Legislature. Legislators and policymakers never quite appreciated that the highly-specialized, science-based programs at Tech could not be adequately funded with declining state support.

While all of higher education felt the financial squeeze, none did so nearly as much as Tech — essentially because the expense involved in educating an engineering student is 2.5 times that of educating a liberal arts student.

Consequently, in 1996, the Tech administration and Board of Directors sought affiliation with West Virginia University, hoping that WVU would appreciate more fully the great value that Tech presented. Tech leaders hoped that the program synergy between the two schools, the opportunity to refer and share students, and WVU’s great influence would lead to greater attention and, consequently, increased funding.

Those hopes were quickly dashed. The relationship that evolved was more colonial in nature than fraternal. This resulted in outdated laboratories, improperly maintained buildings, stagnant faculty salaries and a host of other related problems that grew more acute each year. Only rarely did the WVU leadership even visit Tech, and the sharing of resources never materialized to the stage of being profitable for Tech.

The Tech administration, faculty, staff and students became very disillusioned. Responding to outrage from Tech loyalists and the regional community, the Legislature began to take notice of the growing problems at Tech. Legislative leaders began to make first-hand visits to the campus. Many were shocked by the deteriorating conditions of the laboratories, dorm rooms and other critical facilities.

As a result of the investigation, the Legislature appropriated an additional small infusion of new money for Tech, plus Tech took out loans in hopes of improving the deficiencies on campus and to set Tech on a better course.

In 2007, the Legislature awarded Tech an additional $3.2 million. That amount was used for renovations in its engineering buildings and facilities. Additionally, during that time period, Tech took out loans in excess of $15.3 million for renovations to Maclin Hall and the Student Union. Those loans were made possible through a bond issued through WVU. According to information obtained through a Freedom of Information request on January 31, 2010, Tech still owed close to $12 million on those loans.

In 2012, the WVU Tech Revitalization Committee requested $7.8 million for much-needed facility improvements on the Tech campus to start the revitalization process in accordance with Senate Bill 486 (2011). As of today, no portion of the requested $7.8 million has been received from any venue — the Legislature, WVU or any other sources. In the meantime, WVU has made an initial investment of $8 million for the Beckley campus.

On August 31, 2015, President Gordon Gee and Counsel Rob Alsop visited the Tech campus in Montgomery to deliver the sad news that Tech would be closed. The surviving programs would be shifted to the campus of the defunct Mountain State University in Beckley. A stunned campus and the region and communities Tech serves are still recoiling from this decision.

There is more than a cruel irony that the same WVU, whose callous neglect led to Tech’s decline, now seeks to close Tech and abandon the campus. The same pattern of neglect has been experienced at other branch campuses, as well as at hospitals that affiliated with WVU.

Whatever the WVU rationale might be, its justification for closing the Tech campus in Montgomery is riddled with errors and based upon faulty judgments.

First, the decision was made in a malicious, high-handed and secretive manner with no participation with the elected officials representing the area, community leaders, students, faculty or staff.

Second, the claim that the restoration at Tech would cost $117 million is totally bogus. The Revitalization Project for West Virginia University Institute of Technology Team Report, dated October 7, 2012, the report that was mandated in SB486 for revitalization of the campus, quoted a $30 million to $35 million need.

Third, the cost of moving Tech to Beckley, to a campus that lacks dormitories, appropriate laboratories, classrooms, sports facilities and parking will be far more costly than improving the existing campus in Montgomery.

Fourth, the “Gee Plan” leaves the upper Kanawha Valley of West Virginia, already reeling from the decline in mining and petro-chemical industries, in a state of utter devastation. The economic loss to the region, especially to the community of Montgomery, the cost of moth-balling the state’s huge investment in Tech, and the debilitating human toll defy calculation. In the long run, it could prove to be far more costly to retrofit an entire campus than to improve the existing one.

Finally, WVU’s empire-building grab is designed to give Morgantown control over southern West Virginia. The decision to close Tech is a part of its long-term strategy to marginalize Marshall University and gradually swallow up the remaining four-year schools across the state.

Gordon Gee has traveled the state talking about all of his “big ideas” that will help West Virginia’s economy. After all of his travels, and from listening to all of the advice he has received from his top management team, the only big idea that Gordon Gee could think of was to put the final nail in the coffin of the Upper Kanawha Valley and surrounding areas in a move that will devastate the region. This move to Beckley will be both WVU and Gordon Gee’s lasting legacy on the Upper Kanawha Valley, and I sincerely hope they are proud of that legacy.

Chuck Smith is a business owner in Montgomery, a former mayor of Montgomery, the former chairman of the West Virginia Democratic Party and a graduate of West Virginia Tech.



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Finally, WVU’s empire-building grab is designed to give Morgantown control over southern West Virginia. The decision to close Tech is a part of its long-term strategy tomarginalize Marshall University and gradually swallow up the remaining four-year schools across the state.
 
Finally, WVU’s empire-building grab is designed to give Morgantown control over southern West Virginia. The decision to close Tech is a part of its long-term strategy tomarginalize Marshall University and gradually swallow up the remaining four-year schools across the state.

This is all part of Gee's announced plan to "grow" WVU to an enrollment of 40,000 plus. Since state is NOT growing in population, including our high school enrollments, easiest way to get these additional students is by absorbing, or forcing to close, other state colleges and universities. Get students from Bluefield State, Concord, WV State , MU, etc., it doesn't matter to mad bow tie egomaniac, Gee. People in Huntington, and not just MU alums and fans, had REALLY BETTER WAKE UP and see what's going on in this state, higher education wise. People in Cabell County surely don't need to be reelecting any 80+ year old WVU grads to the legislature, either!!
 
I predict a WVU satellite building within 10 years...WVU- Huntington. Marshall BOG knew about the sale of MSU buildings well before public and WVU knew. "Not in our strategic plan". Famous last words as WVU surrounds Huntington and lays siege.
 
On one hand, I don't fault a version of the strategy. The state of West Virginia has 11 seperate public college and university systems (not including the community colleges), which in my mind is about 8 too many. If I had the magic wand, I'd consolidate the public space into three administrative systems - WVU, WV State, and Marshall. I'd make the other 8 public colleges (and a few of the larger community colleges like WVU-Parkersburg and Blue Ridge as additional campuses) parts of these systems.

WVU is the land grant institution of the state, and really the state should creat a school heavy in research with a national focus.

Marshall would be the school to focus on bringing the big school experience at an affordable price point, with an industry and regional focus.

WV State would be all about accessibility and affordability, with a state and local level focus.

You'd charge each system to a.) be true statewide institutions, and b.) be the best at accomplishing their specific mission.

For example -

North Central:
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WVU: Morgantown Campus (29,707)
Marshall: Fairmont State (4,451)
WV State: Glenville State (1,898)

Ohio Valley:
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WVU: WVU-Parkersburg (3,824)
Marshall: West Liberty (2,804)
WV State: WV Northern Community College (2,505)

Metro Valley
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WVU: WV Tech campus (1,107)
Marshall: Huntington campus (13,798)
WV State: Institute campus (2,644)

Southern:
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WVU: Beckley campus (?)
Marshall: Concord (2,834)
WV State: Bluefield State (1,935)

Eastern:
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WVU: Potomac State (1,781)
Marshall: Shepherd (4,326)
WV State: Blue Ridge Community and Technical College (4,360)


This plan makes WV State's enrollment 4x larger than what it is today. Marshall would be a shade more than twice its current enrollment size. I would have WVU really investing in the Parkersburg and Beckley campuses as two real campuses and create thriving centers there. Pushing enrollment up another 10k gets WVU into the conversation of largest universities in the country,

My two cents.
 
Chuck Smith is one of the democrat insiders most responsible for the state's predicament and, AFAIK, owns no "business" in Montgomery or anywhere else.

Anyway, closing WV Tech is something that should have been done decades ago. We as a state don't need it. We have way too many state colleges. Way too many. The students have "voted with their feet". Tech's enrollment had collapsed and the vast majority of students were NOT engineering majors but taking things offered at other colleges.

This WVU-Beckley deal is, IMHO, just a subterfuge. Gee can tell the old Tech staff they are transferred there and avoid the legal mess of those people demanding tenure at the 'hole. The state does not need a new Tech, nor a new college in Beckley or anywhere else.

Remember that the #1 item sold by "WVU Parkersburg" (which is a community college unrelated to WVU, paying a fee to use the name "WVU" ) are shirts that read "WVU Parkersburg". That is where "WVU Beckley" is going. As these old profs. age out, WVUB will just be something of a community college, eventually absorbing the one already there, and choking out the MU-Concord-Bluefield State joint venture there.

As the state empties, we need to rationalize lots of things. As modern transportation now serves most of the state, we just don't need a college in every third wide spot in the road.

This is what WV needs, and can afford.

The University System of West Virginia. One board, run by the state, with geographic, political, and alumni status balanced, making ALL decisions for ALL schools in the state. Said System consisting of:

Marshall University - Primary research university, focused on its roots in teacher education and on building out from the Medical School into health care and basic science. Build out the engineering program over the next 20 years to a full engineering school.

WVU - Primary research university, focused on its roots in tech/agriculture. Out-of-state tuition raised to an average of what out-of-state tuition is at the neighboring states' "named for the state" colleges. Goal of 90% in-state students by 2025.

Concord, West Liberty, Shepherd - Suplemental undergraduate teacher and social service colleges. Allow Shepherd to grow as that area does.

Northern WV Community College (old Fairmont State) - NON-RESIDENTIAL CC system based in Fairmont with major sites in Wheeling, Parkersburg, Keyser, and Martinsburg.

Southern WV Community College (old WV State) - NON-RESIDENTIAL CC system based in Institute with major sites in Logan, Beckley, Bluefield, Lewisburg and Huntington.

That is it. We need to have the courage to close the rest, and close the dorms at what we keep, other than the five real colleges.

If you want to be something, you might have to actually leave your tiny little part of the world. You might just learn something by doing so. Like the world is bigger than your little town, and what is good for WV might be different than what is good for Montgomery. Or Morgantown. Or even Huntington.
 
Maclid the problem with your plan is it requires people to come and work together so unfortunately it's already dead in the water
 
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On one hand, I don't fault a version of the strategy. The state of West Virginia has 11 seperate public college and university systems (not including the community colleges), which in my mind is about 8 too many. If I had the magic wand, I'd consolidate the public space into three administrative systems - WVU, WV State, and Marshall. I'd make the other 8 public colleges (and a few of the larger community colleges like WVU-Parkersburg and Blue Ridge as additional campuses) parts of these systems.

WVU is the land grant institution of the state, and really the state should creat a school heavy in research with a national focus.

Marshall would be the school to focus on bringing the big school experience at an affordable price point, with an industry and regional focus.

WV State would be all about accessibility and affordability, with a state and local level focus.

You'd charge each system to a.) be true statewide institutions, and b.) be the best at accomplishing their specific mission.

For example -

North Central:
--------------------
WVU: Morgantown Campus (29,707)
Marshall: Fairmont State (4,451)
WV State: Glenville State (1,898)

Ohio Valley:
----------------------
WVU: WVU-Parkersburg (3,824)
Marshall: West Liberty (2,804)
WV State: WV Northern Community College (2,505)

Metro Valley
------------------------
WVU: WV Tech campus (1,107)
Marshall: Huntington campus (13,798)
WV State: Institute campus (2,644)

Southern:
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WVU: Beckley campus (?)
Marshall: Concord (2,834)
WV State: Bluefield State (1,935)

Eastern:
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WVU: Potomac State (1,781)
Marshall: Shepherd (4,326)
WV State: Blue Ridge Community and Technical College (4,360)


This plan makes WV State's enrollment 4x larger than what it is today. Marshall would be a shade more than twice its current enrollment size. I would have WVU really investing in the Parkersburg and Beckley campuses as two real campuses and create thriving centers there. Pushing enrollment up another 10k gets WVU into the conversation of largest universities in the country,

My two cents.

maclid, I believe WV State is also a land grant institution. It and Bluefield State are also designated as historic black colleges.
 
I have always said we have WAY too many schools in this state. It's much too small and not enough people to support all of these schools. Many will eventually die off. And seriously, people in those small areas get a degree in what? Because they don't go anywhere. They stay in those tiny cities and rack up student loans and then don't use the degree they got to better themselves because they won't move away from their little podunk town.
 
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maclid, I believe WV State is also a land grant institution. It and Bluefield State are also designated as historic black colleges.

Sort of.

The original land grant, of 1863, provided for sale of land in the west to pay for an ag/tech school in each state. (BTW, non-alumni Spamies will often cite "land grant" as a measure of school quality, in fact in many states the land grant school is not the main university.)

In 1896 the feds required each segregation state to duplicate the offering of the land grant college at a school for blacks (which is to say, ag/tech programs). An actual grant of land was not involved, the states could have just desegregated and saved money.

When Brown v. BOE was decided, the state had two or three black colleges depending on how you looked at it. WV State, Bluefield State were official state colleges, and the state gave $$ to the private Storer College in the EP, to avoid having to have yet another college for that area. Gov. Underwood cut the $$ off to Storer and it closed, and the state informed the feds that WV State was no longer involved in ag/tech and it lost whatever "land grant" status it had.

In the 2000s Byrd had a bill passed that "restored" WV State's land grant status. It carried no $$ and has no meaning.

The federal government considers any school that was majority black in 1963 to be a "HBCU" and gives them money. Bluefield State, which is now 95% white, thus gets $$ for being black. Only in America.

The two whitest black colleges in the USA are Bluefield State, followed by WV State. Both developed into commuter colleges for their towns, and that is fine. The problem as WV State is it still has a small set of dorms. Heavily black. And not black kids from WV (more WV blacks attend Marshall, and almost as many attend WVU) but the children and grandchildren of WV State alumni who GTFO of segregated WV (mostly to DC) decades ago. Sent "home" to a state they have never lived in to go to a 88% white HBCU in a 94% white state. And the subsidy the state spend on these kids is more than the subsidy of out of state at WVU. It is time to close the dorms and tell these upper middle class sons and daughters of the beltway to go to Maryland or VPI.
 
Sort of.

The original land grant, of 1863, provided for sale of land in the west to pay for an ag/tech school in each state. (BTW, non-alumni Spamies will often cite "land grant" as a measure of school quality, in fact in many states the land grant school is not the main university.)

In 1896 the feds required each segregation state to duplicate the offering of the land grant college at a school for blacks (which is to say, ag/tech programs). An actual grant of land was not involved, the states could have just desegregated and saved money.

When Brown v. BOE was decided, the state had two or three black colleges depending on how you looked at it. WV State, Bluefield State were official state colleges, and the state gave $$ to the private Storer College in the EP, to avoid having to have yet another college for that area. Gov. Underwood cut the $$ off to Storer and it closed, and the state informed the feds that WV State was no longer involved in ag/tech and it lost whatever "land grant" status it had.

In the 2000s Byrd had a bill passed that "restored" WV State's land grant status. It carried no $$ and has no meaning.

The federal government considers any school that was majority black in 1963 to be a "HBCU" and gives them money. Bluefield State, which is now 95% white, thus gets $$ for being black. Only in America.

The two whitest black colleges in the USA are Bluefield State, followed by WV State. Both developed into commuter colleges for their towns, and that is fine. The problem as WV State is it still has a small set of dorms. Heavily black. And not black kids from WV (more WV blacks attend Marshall, and almost as many attend WVU) but the children and grandchildren of WV State alumni who GTFO of segregated WV (mostly to DC) decades ago. Sent "home" to a state they have never lived in to go to a 88% white HBCU in a 94% white state. And the subsidy the state spend on these kids is more than the subsidy of out of state at WVU. It is time to close the dorms and tell these upper middle class sons and daughters of the beltway to go to Maryland or VPI.

Hey, SamC, you do realize that MU has been trying to grow its enrollment, don't you? New Pres. just said he hopes to get enrollment up to 15,000, about a 2000 jump. With stagnant state population and falling public school enrollments in 94% white WV, where do you think we will be trying to get these additional students? Maybe from urban DC, Northern VA, Maryland, etc. We already have the INTO program started by Dr. Kopp to tap into the market for foreign students. Just not that many more of those 94% white WV high school students are either interested or prepared to go to college, it seems. Apparently they are more interested in 4 wheelin, ginsengin, dippin the smokeless tobaccy, getting pregnant and getting on some kind of state assistance.
 
WVU has already converted itself into a private school for rich kids from the northeast. WV cannot afford that huge subsidy, let alone another one. Racist Gee's goal of a "40000 student WVU" is the most repugnant and awful thing that will further bankrupt an already bankrupt state and further divert resources from the institution's real mission.

The way you grow Marshall, is to get more WVians in college, and to have the moral courage to close many of our other colleges and get those kids into Marshall.
 
None of this will matter when the student loan bubble explodes.

Yep, it will change the landscape of college in American and all these plush football programs and D1 athletics are HOSED. Football and coaches making a million bucks and building sky boxes won't be a priority. It is coming and so is the reset button on a lot of this wasted crap. We are spoiled as a people.
 
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