The State of West Virginia is 11-3, with all losses coming to top 15 teams (#14 NCST, #13 VT, #4 TCU).
Of course, MU hits bowl eligibility first.
Of course, MU hits bowl eligibility first.
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The combined records of the teams Marshall has beat so far this year is 12-33
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The combined records of the teams my EERs have beaten is 7-29
Neither of our teams has done much "of note" yet this year.
The combined records of the teams Marshall has beat so far this year is 12-33
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The combined records of the teams my EERs have beaten is 7-29
Neither of our teams has done much "of note" yet this year.
Soooo....basically, you're saying congrats on becoming bowl eligible?
If that's the way you want to take it, fine with me. Congrats to you and the other 73 teams that will be playing in bowl games this year. IMHO there are so many bowl games these days that becoming eligible for one doesn't have the same significance that it did years ago.
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How hard did Dana and wvu try to lose against Baylor last night? The team outsmarted Dana however, and wvu ended up winning.
I dunno about MU fans, but wvu fans aren't impressed either with their team. Texas Tech, to them at the time, was a big win for them and they thought they were legit. Texas Tech is sucking and my friend was about to burn his wvu sweatshirt if they had lost to Baylor.
I wanna drink whiskey and bitch about young people with you.
of note the combined records of the #1 team Alabama is 29-27 with 11 of the 29 wins coming from Fresno State and Colorado ST.
back those out 2 teams out, the records are 18-23.
Why does everything have to be a MU - WVU fight? I may be wrong but I think it is possible to like and follow both teams.
I miss the series between WVU-Marshall where we launched Natty Lights at you all as you were walking through the Blue Lot and where you guys boycotted the Barboursville Wal-Mart because they carried more WVU lawn ornaments than they did Marshall.
Bring back the series, Joe Manchin.
Haha I didn’t know about either of those things but I can’t decide which one is the gayer thing to do.
Ask UK if they are losing sleep over their other state school's basketball program being gutted...better yet...ask UK fans if they were cheering for the state because Louisville won a basketball title.
I wonder if Auburn fans are gonna root for Bama when they make the CFP and Auburn doesn't? I'm sure they could put aside their differences and "follow both teams."
Hey, ask Duke if they're happy for the state when UNC raises their banner...I'm sure they'll be sporting their Duke shirts but "found a way to cheer for both" despite being a rival.
Seriously, I don't understand it. You honestly have to not attended either school to really say such things. I understand there would exist some respect for your in-state rival, that's fine, but that's really it.
The problem is, wvu has taken it too far in terms of what it has done to the state of WV as a whole. Their legislature has basically ruined the economy constantly "wrasslin' up a budget" and failing miserably, the law school was in charge of that.
Manchin is a joke and changes political association and ideals more than transgenders change sexual identity.
Schools like MU and wvu could co-exist and do wonders for the state in terms of educating it and bringing it in a better direction...with MU having had attempted accessing many of the major professional programs first...the Med school for example, but that got shut down by the wvu-law grad legislature. MU was able to finally push it through, but wvu routinely did that to disallow MU from financially, nationally, and professionally benefitting. Wvu sucked dry WV-Tech's Engineering program, instead of starting their own from scratch, wvu tapped the legislature and told them to just cut Tech's funding...their once top 50 Engineering school dissolved and wvu picked up the program and moved it to their campus. Now, Tech is a shell of its former shell and basically rotting over there in the valley.
wvu does this to MU more than anyone because MU is the 2nd largest of the schools in WV...and the mentality up there and in Charleston is, "If we can keep MU down in literally EVERYTHING they do, it'll bolster our hatred for them in football and sports! Because screw them! Sports matter most!!! Especially football!!! Bettering the economy and education 'round these parts be damned!!!"
Funny thing is, you don't see this in, you know, REAL states. VA for example, their schools mutually respect their academics. UVA has an outstanding law school, medical school, and other programs. VT has the Engineering programs and UVA law grads running the state, respect it enough to help keep it strong.
Oh, sure, they'll argue and hate one another on the football field or basketball court or any sports competition, but that's it. When the game is over, they'll retire to their quarters, with a grin saying, "We got you this year!!" However, they'll work together to make sure the education budget is set for the next year.
You don't get that in WV because WV's leadership is full of idiots. They really didn't read on how to be a real state, rather skimmed through the Cliff Notes version and now are really showing they don't know what the effing hell they're doing...they think by disallowing other schools or programs not named wvu to grow, it'll "prove their dedication to wvu" when it really just proves they're so dumb they lose 3 teeth before they realize they're trying to eat a rock for breakfast.
But to them? "Well, if we block MU from getting this grant and program working, we'll show them!!! Yeah!!!! We dominate football so let's take their right to educate people away!!!"
When Marshall has a great program idea for their school, they used to get blocked, and then wvu would mysteriously show up a year later and get the funding for it, then the state would proclaim, "We don't need 2 of the same programs!!! Forget that we're on opposite ends of the state and such an idea would make far too much sense!"
You wanna root for the state and both schools? Go for it, but root for them both in EVERYTHING BUT SPORTS because that matters more than a damn football or basketball game ever will.
Equating the relationship between Marshall and WVU with those of UNC-Duke, Auburn-Alabama, etc. is a bit of a stretch, in my opinion. While no Tar Heel fan will root for Duke, I'll bet some of them can pull for ECU. I'll bet some Alabama fans also root for Troy. And so on.
WVU began training doctors as a feeder school for Maryland in 1903; med students would complete their first two years of med school in Morgantown, and finish up in Maryland. The "pop tax" to fund the WVU's own Health Sciences Center was passed in 1951. The WVU HSC opened in 1957, and WVU's University Hospital opened in 1960. WVU started awarding MD degrees in 1962. Are you implying that MU's attempt to start a med school predates WVU's?
WVU Tech was founded in 1895 as a sub-collegiate prep school for West Virginia University. In 1917, it was separated from WVU and renamed the West Virginia Trade School. In 1921, it reached the junior college level as the New River State School. It became a four-year college as New River State College in 1931 and was renamed the West Virginia Institute of Technology in 1941. It began to grant engineering degrees in 1952 (long after WVU's engineering school had been established). Facing dwindling enrollment, the school became a regional campus of West Virginia University in 1996, leading to the name change of WVU Tech. It later became an integrated division of WVU in July 2007. To imply that WVU stole WV Tech's engineering programs and moved them to Morgantown rather than "starting their own from scratch" is ridiculous.
Can you provide examples of this?
Fact is WVU uses athletics to cause people with no real relationship to it to think of the school as "us". Fact is many (most) people who have never been to a college believe the "Hayes Rule" which is "most people with no real basis for an opinion assume that the quality of a school is proportional to its football team."
The blunt fact is that in all of America no school does less for its state than WVU does for WV. It exists to soak up money to provide a deeply subsidized (often less than in-state back where these people belong) very near open admissions college for people who got thin-enveloped back home. These people are parasites. It is a waste of money WV no longer has. Meanwhile MU and the state colleges are left with the heavy lifting of educating the sons and daughters of a poor state with poor public schools. Meanwhile WVU tries to figure out how to get more rich kids (and anybody who can go to a private school or out-of-state is a rich kid) and how to agrandize to itself more programs and ideas that would work better elsewhere.
The med school, a failure in every respect, is the #1 example of that. Imagine if WV had made the decision made by so many other well-run states, (IN, TX, AL, FL, SC, PA, AZ, OR, MS, NY, so many) and place the med school in Charleston, where it could have been. Better health outcomes for the MAJORITY of WVians who live far closer to Charleston than some obscure cow town/wide spot in the road (and the world-class Pitt med center already had that area covered anyway), and a huge boost to the local science economy (1/3rd of the jobs in Birmingham are sci/tech/med related).
But football. One of WVU's weapons in its goal. Which is "what can WV do for WVU today?". The opposite of MU's mission, which is "what can MU do for WV today?"
It really is that simiple. WVU is just another state college in an obscure part of the state where very few WVians live and serves little purpose to the rest of us. And, because whatever is bad for WVU is good for WV, every WVU loss must be celebrated by all who love this state and want better for it.
The blunt fact is that in all of America no school does less for its state than WVU does for WV. It exists to soak up money to provide a deeply subsidized (often less than in-state back where these people belong) very near open admissions college for people who got thin-enveloped back home. These people are parasites. It is a waste of money WV no longer has. Meanwhile MU and the state colleges are left with the heavy lifting of educating the sons and daughters of a poor state with poor public schools. Meanwhile WVU tries to figure out how to get more rich kids (and anybody who can go to a private school or out-of-state is a rich kid) and how to agrandize to itself more programs and ideas that would work better elsewhere.
The med school, a failure in every respect, is the #1 example of that. Imagine if WV had made the decision made by so many other well-run states, (IN, TX, AL, FL, SC, PA, AZ, OR, MS, NY, so many) and place the med school in Charleston, where it could have been. Better health outcomes for the MAJORITY of WVians who live far closer to Charleston than some obscure cow town/wide spot in the road (and the world-class Pitt med center already had that area covered anyway), and a huge boost to the local science economy (1/3rd of the jobs in Birmingham are sci/tech/med related).
But football. One of WVU's weapons in its goal. Which is "what can WV do for WVU today?". The opposite of MU's mission, which is "what can MU do for WV today?"
It really is that simiple. WVU is just another state college in an obscure part of the state where very few WVians live and serves little purpose to the rest of us. And, because whatever is bad for WVU is good for WV, every WVU loss must be celebrated by all who love this state and want better for it.
I wonder if you even know that WVU Medicine is the largest private employer in our state with over 15,000 people woking for them right here in WV, and their services in one way or another are offered in nearly every corner of the the state. I doubt if you do.
http://wvumedicine.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/WVUM-AnnRep_2016_web.pdf
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That's some good info about a med school that is a "failure in every respect"
WVU Medicine has a pretty significant footprint in Charleston as well...
http://www.hsc.wvu.edu/charleston-campus/
There was an entire book written about the medical school. For the life of me at the moment I can't remember the title.
Back then, the legislature determined much of a program's fate.
Marshall was the first for the idea of a medical school.
The legislature declined their program. Wvu did the same thing the next year, got funding, got rejected for accreditation because Ruby couldn't house a med school. Wvu got like $10 million from the state to make it work.
All the while MU kept getting their med school program rejected and the "the state only needs 1 med school" crap.
It eventually got pushed through and accredited in their first attempt.
wvu did this for many other programs MU tried to start up.
Most recently, the Pharmacy school was heavily hit with criticism by the Educational Board or whatever for the state (majority being wvu people). Despite this, MU got their funding and Pharmacy program approved. The board kept saying. "Oh, it isn't going to work. Its a waste. We already have pharmacy in WV..." The state then spent like $15,000 hiring "independent consultants" in order to prove their doubts and evaluate the program.
Marshall got high marks and praise. The same group then had their grades questioned by the same Education board members who hired them to begin with!
As for the first statement. Well, of course many folks in NC would find themselves rooting for ECU if they were Duke or unc fans on occasion.
Not to mention in the eyes of, basically everyone, ECU is not on the same level as either unc or Duke...so it negates any real threat.
UK fans rooted like hell for Morehead against Louisville in the tournament...not because "I can cheer for the state" but because "SCREW LOUISVILLE!!!" After the game, they could care less what happens.
However, NC and basically any other state is not like WV, is actually better, because they have more than 2 schools who play D1 football.
I'm sure they have a psychiatric division. Sammy needs to check his self in....there's a term for his psychosis...obsessive compulsive WVUitis. Serious afliction....images of Gee come flying out of thin air. Walk around mumbling "pop tax....pop tax". Terrible
That was 2016...interesting and kinda sad Wal Mart was #1 since 1998 till 2015 for the state.
The change happened when WVU opened the new cardiac wing at Ruby. That addition alone created 5,000 new jobs. I doubt that Wal Mart has any less employees than it did when they were the largest employer in the state. WVU Medicine pays more than Wal Mart and offers better benefits. That's a good thing IMHO
To hell with Walmart....a GD WVU fan generating machine.
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