Question re: Mexico

[ThunderCat98]

The whole illegal immigration thing makes no sense to me. They seem happy to let their citizens flee the country to come to the U.S. Instead, shouldnt they be offended that their own people find the country to be so terrible that they have to illegally cross borders to get out? One would think theyd want to keep all these great workers we keep hearing about to help pull that shithole out of 3rd world status. Instead, they get mad because the U.S. wants to make it harder for Mexican citizens to illegally jump ship? The whole thing makes no f*cking sense, unless . . .

 

[extragreen]

Perhaps a 70% increase between their minimum wage and ours is somewhat of an incentive.

 

[andy4theherd]

I could be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure the minium wage requirements aren't enforced when paying ILLEGALs..........

 

[andy4theherd]

oops... forgot you Libs have no way of discerning between legal and illegal immigrants...

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

Remittances.

 

[extragreen]

I could be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure the minium wage requirements aren't enforced when paying ILLEGALs..........

How strongly do you think it's enforced in Mexico? I suspect there are many illegal immigrants making above $10 per hour.

 

[Rock98Dog]

Trump is correct behind his reasoning for making Mexico pay for the wall. Their economy would crash, getting worse than it already is, without the billions sent "home" by illegals every year from the U.S. The Mexican government has a huge incentive to send as many people across that border as they can.

 

[Walden Pond]

Instead, they get mad because the U.S. wants to make it harder for Mexican citizens to illegally jump ship? The whole thing makes no f*cking sense, unless . . .

...they're not sending us their best people, folks. They're rapists, criminals, garbage, whatever else he said about them and the media bitches about.

 

[big_country90]

oops... forgot you Libs have no way of discerning between legal and illegal immigrants...

You know what's sad? You just hit 'greed like a ton of bricks with that comment. He has probably been employing illegals and paying them minimum wage like an idiot.

 

[extragreen]

You know what's sad? You just hit 'greed like a ton of bricks with that comment. He has probably been employing illegals and paying them minimum wage like an idiot.

You really should have stuck to your self imposed non comment resolution, because every time you post, you make yourself look like an uneducated eerdiot.

"The 2007 median household income of unauthorized immigrants was $36,000." That means that if every illegal immigrant household had 2 working residents, their median income would be $8.65 per hour each. Looks like a lot of employers are idiot enough to pay more than the minimum wage, you dunce.

http://www.pewhispanic.org/2009/04/14/a-portrait-of-unauthorized-immigrants-in-the-united-states/

 

[Rock98Dog]

So a third less than U.S. legal folks, on average.

How is it that we have so much data on illegals, but we can't seem to find them all and deport them as the law requires?

 

[extragreen]

So a third less than U.S. legal folks, on average.

How is it that we have so much data on illegals, but we can't seem to find them all and deport them as the law requires?

http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-costs-of-mass-deportation-1458342018

 

[ThunderCat98]

Perhaps a 70% increase between their minimum wage and ours is somewhat of an incentive.

The OP was obviously in reference to the Mexican nationals' view on the issue, not the illegal immigrants'. Its obvious why they want to be here. Do you even read sh*t before you post, or do you just vomit out whatever lib talking point even remotely relates to the topic?

 

[ThunderCat98]

...they're not sending us their best people, folks. They're rapists, criminals, garbage, whatever else he said about them and the media bitches about.

Bingo.

 

[extragreen]

The OP was obviously in reference to the Mexican nationals' view on the issue, not the illegal immigrants'. Its obvious why they want to be here. Do you even read sh*t before you post, or do you just vomit out whatever lib talking point even remotely relates to the topic?

"One would think theyd want to keep all these great workers we keep hearing about to help pull that shithole out of 3rd world status."

Do you read what YOU post? ^^^
If they want to keep those workers, then pay them more. Not doing so is part of what keeps them third world. Do you ever understand any situation or do you find gratification in exposing your own ignorance?

 

[Rock98Dog]

http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-costs-of-mass-deportation-1458342018

With the amount of money they cost us annually, we will see a nice ROI. The trillion in GDP is a ridiculous, made up number. We have plenty of people to take the vacated jobs and a smaller labor force will lead to upward wage pressure. That's something you should like.

 

[extragreen]

With the amount of money they cost us annually, we will see a nice ROI. The trillion in GDP is a ridiculous, made up number. We have plenty of people to take the vacated jobs and a smaller labor force will lead to upward wage pressure. That's something you should like.

Of course the trillion is made up. Why? Simply because you don't agree with it.
I thought you cons all agree that the illegals do jobs Americans were too lazy to do.
I thought upward wage pressure is what unions do and that is the reason businesses moved jobs overseas.

 

[Rock98Dog]

The cost of living in Mexico is significantly less, so less pay = same standard of living.

 

[extragreen]

The cost of living in Mexico is significantly less, so less pay = same standard of living.

Which is why illegal immigrants risk life and limb to get here.

 

[Herd Fever]

Everyone on here don't have a clue.

First more Mexicans are leaving the US instead of coming here.

Second there is more illegals coming from Central America than Mexico to escape war.

Third I live in San Diego and I see a ton of Mexicans that come here to work and go back to Mexico everyday.

Fourth there is a ton of Americans(White, Black Asian, Hispanic) who live in Tijuana but work in San Diego.

Instead of worrying about a Damn wall that is already there, Maybe Trump should be a better diplomat and talk with Mexico on ways they can protect their Southern Border because like in America, Mexico has an illegal immigration problem with their Central American neighbors.

 

[herdfan429]

Everyone on here don't have a clue.

First more Mexicans are leaving the US instead of coming here.

Second there is more illegals coming from Central America than Mexico to escape war.

Third I live in San Diego and I see a ton of Mexicans that come here to work and go back to Mexico everyday.

Fourth there is a ton of Americans(White, Black Asian, Hispanic) who live in Tijuana but work in San Diego.

Instead of worrying about a Damn wall that is already there, Maybe Trump should be a better diplomat and talk with Mexico on ways they can protect their Southern Border because like in America, Mexico has an illegal immigration problem with their Central American neighbors.

Yeah that damn wall actually works. To bad it's not the entire border which is the point

 

[Herd Fever]

Too bad there is large sections of the border where it's near impossible to build anything.

Also people us tunnels now to get here or coyotes aka Human Traffickers. Also there is a double fence one of the US side and on the Mexican side.

 

[Walter Brennaneer]

----LMFAO

 

[herdfan429]

Too bad there is large sections of the border where it's near impossible to build anything.

Also people us tunnels now to get here or coyotes aka Human Traffickers. Also there is a double fence one of the US side and on the Mexican side.

No shit people use tunnels. But the majority of them sure as hell aren't using tunnels. Build a wall where appropriate/feasible. And guess what IT WILL HELP KEEP ILLEGALS OUT

 

[Herd Fever]

No shit people use tunnels. But the majority of them sure as hell aren't using tunnels. Build a wall where appropriate/feasible. And guess what IT WILL HELP KEEP ILLEGALS OUT

Actually the majority of them are using tunnels.

Do you live close to the border?? Have you ever been to the border??

Have you been to Calexico, CA Yuma, AZ, Nogales, AZ, El Pass, TX,or any other border town??

 

[raleighherdfan]

Fever lives in San Diego for a few months and suddenly he's an expert in all border towns. Lol.

Guess we should just be happy he finally moved out of his moms house (unless she moved west with him).

 

[ThunderCat98]

"One would think theyd want to keep all these great workers we keep hearing about to help pull that shithole out of 3rd world status."

Do you read what YOU post? ^^^
If they want to keep those workers, then pay them more. Not doing so is part of what keeps them third world. Do you ever understand any situation or do you find gratification in exposing your own ignorance?

Youre missing the whole point you g*ddamned moron. My question is 2-fold: (1) WHY dont mexicans want to keep their own in-country, and (2) WHY do THEY (mexican citizens, politicians, etc.) get pissed off when (a) we want to send their citizens back to them and (b) want them to help keep them there?

I shouldnt be surprised at this point that you dont understand, but your ignorance gets worse every day. You are, by far, the worst thing about posting here.

 

[extragreen]

Youre missing the whole point you g*ddamned moron. My question is 2-fold: (1) WHY dont mexicans want to keep their own in-country, and (2) WHY do THEY (mexican citizens, politicians, etc.) get pissed off when (a) we want to send their citizens back to them and (b) want them to help keep them there?

I shouldnt be surprised at this point that you dont understand, but your ignorance gets worse every day. You are, by far, the worst thing about posting here.

I'm not missing near as much as you are. You're the one that ADMITTED it doesn't make sense. Here's a hint: Mexico is doing exactly what you cons would love to do, exporting the poor. It relieves the cost of the Mexican safety net. In the meantime, U S money is transferred by Mexican workers here to Mexico. Nevertheless Mexico is going to pay for a wall to be built to stop this. Bwahhhahaha !!

 

[ThunderCat98]

I'm not missing near as much as you are. You're the one that ADMITTED it doesn't make sense. Here's a hint: Mexico is doing exactly what you cons would love to do, exporting the poor. It relieves the cost of the Mexican safety net. In the meantime, U S money is transferred by Mexican workers here to Mexico. Nevertheless Mexico is going to pay for a wall to be built to stop this. Bwahhhahaha !!

Sooo, despite lib talking points, you admit mexico is sending us the dregs of society?

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

Maybe it's because I grew up in a farming state, where it was normal to see migrant labor, but I don't even understand why this is such an election issue outside of the border states. We are not overran with illegal immigrants. Are there illegals here? Sure. But when I see immigrant Hispanics (of course I can't look and tell if they are illegal) they are working folks. To top it off they are usually friendly, too. Just decent people.

I finally found the Mexican joint here where the Mexicans actually eat. Great food, nice people working there. I walked in there today to grab some lunch and was the only gringo in the place. Said hi to folks, they say hello back. Nicer people than the fvckers at McDonalds.

I know I often think shit is a conspiracy, but yeah I wonder if this crap is to get people's minds off the super-rich corporations sending jobs overseas and illegally replacing qualified American workers with cheaper visa holding foreigners. It's an easy sell to white people because we don't like the idea we won't be the majority one day. Honestly I would rather have hard working Catholic Hispanics come here instead of these smelly, gibberish speaking, false god worshipping bastards from other places. It's not hard to learn some Spanish, either.

Or maybe they are a scapegoat because no one can get away with saying the blacks are a damn mess these days.

 

[Walden Pond]

The real walls are already built anyway. The ones who come here to bust ass and get things done will get over the walls. Those who won't will be stuck in a Section 8 hell hole with their free ticket to live the same misery they ran from.

 

[extragreen]

Sooo, despite lib talking points, you admit mexico is sending us the dregs of society?

Unlike you, I don't see poor people as worthless. Despite con beliefs, everybody is poor at least twice in their life.

 

[herdfan429]

Unlike you, I don't see poor people as worthless. Despite con beliefs, everybody is poor at least twice in their life.

Especially after the libs take their cut of what you've earned/saved after you die

 

[extragreen]

Especially after the libs take their cut of what you've earned/saved after you die

When you die, nothing on earth is yours. So the libs take nothing from you.

 

[herdfan429]

When you die, nothing on earth is yours. So the libs take nothing from you.

Ok sergeant semantics. They take what you've earned and have left your family. You know damn well what I was saying

 

[extragreen]

Ok sergeant semantics. They take what you've earned and have left your family. You know damn well what I was saying

Here's what you said.."Especially after the libs take their cut of what you've earned/saved after you die"

So, no, I don't know what you're saying. Tell us what the libs take from your family after you die that makes them poor.

 

[Herd Fever]

Maybe it's because I grew up in a farming state, where it was normal to see migrant labor, but I don't even understand why this is such an election issue outside of the border states. We are not overran with illegal immigrants. Are there illegals here? Sure. But when I see immigrant Hispanics (of course I can't look and tell if they are illegal) they are working folks. To top it off they are usually friendly, too. Just decent people.

I finally found the Mexican joint here where the Mexicans actually eat. Great food, nice people working there. I walked in there today to grab some lunch and was the only gringo in the place. Said hi to folks, they say hello back. Nicer people than the fvckers at McDonalds.

I know I often think shit is a conspiracy, but yeah I wonder if this crap is to get people's minds off the super-rich corporations sending jobs overseas and illegally replacing qualified American workers with cheaper visa holding foreigners. It's an easy sell to white people because we don't like the idea we won't be the majority one day. Honestly I would rather have hard working Catholic Hispanics come here instead of these smelly, gibberish speaking, false god worshipping bastards from other places. It's not hard to learn some Spanish, either.

Or maybe they are a scapegoat because no one can get away with saying the blacks are a damn mess these days.

THANKS YOU!!!!!!! Finally a Gringo that gets it

 

[raleighherdfan]

Unlike you, I don't see poor people as worthless. Despite con beliefs, everybody is poor at least twice in their life.

The only thing Greed can contribute to a thread are ignorant cliches and semantics. He is a jackass.

What cons see as "worthless" is the poor's willingness to remain poor while waiting on a politician to "fix" their existence. A "fix" that will never come.

 

[raleighherdfan]

Here's what you said.."Especially after the libs take their cut of what you've earned/saved after you die"

So, no, I don't know what you're saying. Tell us what the libs take from your family after you die that makes them poor.

How about all those years of social security payments that one pays into and can't be passed on? How about the family farmers who lose their all or part of farms they've owned for generations because of inheritance taxes?

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

How about all those years of social security payments that one pays into and can't be passed on? How about the family farmers who lose their all or part of farms they've owned for generations because of inheritance taxes?

With all the exemptions and estate planning, making the farm a coorperation, etc very very few farms are hit by inheritance taxes. Like 20 a year nationwide.