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Raising a Nation of Sissies-Vaganifcation Alert of Immense Proportions

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What the hell? No high school before 8am? Aren't we preparing these brains of mush for the real world? We never had trouble with this. C'mon America. You see this is what happens when feel gooders, hippies, and flower children grow up and raise kids. Little Johnny can't get up that early. Little Susy can't be there and think at 8am. Raising a nation of sissies and losers.

Here is a hint sissy parents, the world isn't going to give a shi( about how soft your kid is. You should be preparing them for the world. Idiots.



SEATTLE — More school districts around the U.S. are heeding the advice of scientists who have long said that expecting teens to show up to class before 8 a.m. isn't good for their health or their report cards.

The Seattle school board voted last month to adopt an 8:45 a.m. start time beginning next year for all of its high schools and most of its middle schools, joining 70 districts across the nation who adopted a later start time in recent years.

The movement still has a long way to go: There are more than 24,000 U.S. high schools. Supporters expect that such decisions will be made more quickly now that people have mostly stopped debating the underlying science.

Proponents of later start times got a boost last year when the American Academy of Pediatrics said that while starting later isn't a panacea for teen health and academic problems, it can improve students' lives in many other ways.

"Essentially, across the board, any domain that you look at improves pretty dramatically," said Dr. Judy Owens of Boston Children's Hospital and author of the academy's policy statement on teen sleep. After the report, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention also pushed for later bell times.

Research studies have shown later start times help combat sleep deprivation in teens, who naturally fall asleep later than their parents would like, and improve academic success, attendance, mental health and cut sleep-related car accidents.

"We're going to look back on this time period and wonder why it took so long," said Phyllis Payne of Start School Later, which helps parents groups advocate for later bell times. She said 49 new local groups have started in the last three years.

The obstacles to change are mostly financial. St. Paul, Minnesota, public schools delayed the adoption of later start times for all its high school students, even after seeing great results in a one-school pilot, because of transportation issues.

The district could not overcome parent complaints about earlier start times for elementary students, which were made necessary because of the new later times for high school students. It would cost St. Paul about $8 million to add more buses, explained Jackie Statum Allen, assistant director for strategic planning and policy.

"It would be much better to put that in the classroom rather than the gas tank," Allen said.

In Seattle, officials encountered the same resistance. Some parents of younger children objected when bus schedules were flipped and their kids were put on an earlier schedule for next year. Some argued that later start times will get in the way of after-school activities like football practice.

The Seattle change was approved in part because the district listened to parent feedback on an initial proposal and made the final plan more expensive but also more popular, said Cindy Jatul, a Seattle teacher and parent and volunteer with Start School Later Seattle.

An effort to move school start times in Chicago failed because the district tried to make the change without community input. "It backfired terribly," said Jatul, who got involved in the effort in Seattle when her kids hit puberty and as a teacher, she was facing groggy teens at home and at school.

Bridget Shelton, a freshman at Seattle's Roosevelt High School, believes the change in bell times will help her move from getting 6-7 hours of sleep to closer to 8 hours next year.

"I know many students that come in and are just struggling to stay awake," she said. "Many of my friends are falling asleep in class."

Katie Benmar, a sophomore, doesn't think the new start time will make anything better. She expects her life will just shift one hour later — from after-school activities to dinner to homework and bed.

"I'm going to bed at midnight and waking up at six," Benmar said of her current schedule, which includes jazz choir after school. "I'm really tired right now."



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If it is Scientifically proven it has to be false right. I mean that is how you republicans work
 
Neighbor's 5-year old CATCHES school bus @ 6:36 am...school 1 1/2 miles up the road.

HS sissies & softies should never be so inconvenienced. Today's parents too wishy-washy to set
standards for teenagers to live by. The teens need to stay up till 2-3 am on Facebook or X-box.

(Parents don't want to risk their status of "best friend" with the kid)
 
Neighbor's 5-year old CATCHES school bus @ 6:36 am...school 1 1/2 miles up the road.

HS sissies & softies should never be so inconvenienced. Today's parents too wishy-washy to set
standards for teenagers to live by. The teens need to stay up till 2-3 am on Facebook or X-box.

(Parents don't want to risk their status of "best friend" with the kid)

Elementary school kids don't go to school here in NY until After 8.

I started first period in HS at 7:20 and sometimes was there from 5 in the morning for off-season workouts
 
Sounds like a much better schedule than what kids in WV endure ... Something else you have to be grateful for ...

The 5:00 am workouts were by your choice...you can be grateful to those brave honkies that fought and died for your generation to have that right to choose... The rights of ALL Americans...NOT ONLY WHITE AMERICANS.

And, just for the record, my favorite fighting group of WW-2 was THE RED TAILS ... think Robin Roberts !!!
 
My wife has been involved in some of the national research on this subject and it's found over and over that a later start to the school day is benificial for most students. Of course one of the main reasons it's not widely implemented is due to being inconvenient for parents in terms of the time children leave their home in the morning. Frankly school should start around 9-9:30 and recess around 4:30. Many colleges have adjusted their schedules to a later bracket of class times.
 
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My wife has been involved in some of the national research on this subject and it's found over and over that a later start to the school day is benificial for most students. Of course one of the main reasons it's not widely implemented is due to being inconvenient for parents in terms of the time children leave their home in the morning. Frankly school should start around 9-9:30 and recess around 4:30. Many colleges have adjusted their schedules to a later bracket of class times.

In Suburban NY, not really so much in NYC the main issue is buses and Cold Weather. That's why the HS open first then middle schools then elementary schools.

In NYC most kids take public transportation to school or Walk
 
If kids were told by mom and dad to go to bed a little earlier, there wouldn't be an issue. Cant tell you how many times I've seen elementary age kids out and about fairly late on school nights. Put them to bed earlier and their 6 am wakeup to get ready for school isn't that big of a deal.
 
HS sissies & softies should never be so inconvenienced. Today's parents too wishy-washy to set
standards for teenagers to live by. The teens need to stay up till 2-3 am on Facebook or X-box.

Better catch up......No teens are on Facebook until 2-3am. Even Twitter has jumped the shark for teens.

Now Instagram and SnapChat, that's a different matter.
 
In Suburban NY, not really so much in NYC the main issue is buses and Cold Weather. That's why the HS open first then middle schools then elementary schools.

In NYC most kids take public transportation to school or Walk

Like everything, one size doesn't fit all. But if you want the best outcomes, and can make it work, then a later start to the school day is optimal. It's been confirmed many times over a long period of time.
 
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