Sandra Bland arrest transcript: Where does everyone stand on this?

[GK4Herd]

Read the arrest transcript and tell where you stand. I'm guessing I can predict where most of you stand...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...88e4b0a9b94853b1f1?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000063

 

[ToesMU]

After watching the first 15 minutes or so of the video, I firmly believe the trooper was totally out of line. Was she being a pain in the ass? Yes, but not enough to warrant being threatened with a taser & dragged out of her car.

 

[GK4Herd]

This is the root of the problem...


"Bland: I am. I really am. I feel like it's crap what I'm getting a ticket for. I was getting out of your way. You were speeding up, tailing me, so I move over and you stop me. So yeah, I am a little irritated, but that doesn’t stop you from giving me a ticket, so [inaudible] ticket."


The police was tailing her and when she changed lanes to let him around he pulled her over on a signal violation. Unless she was doing something wrong why was the police tailing her? If she was doing something wrong like driving erratically this would have already been put out by a police department that now has to be on the defensive due to national publicity. But it hasn't been mentioned so I assume she was driving fine. So why tail her? If she wasn't tailed there would be no reason to change lanes thus no violation. I'd have been p***ed in the same situation as well.

 

[herdfan429]

I haven't watched the full video but I heard someone say it appears she ran a stop sign and then the cop made the u turn to chase her down. And no I'm not justifying the stop at all.

 

[ToesMU]

Trooper had just finished ticketing a college student for minor traffic infraction; was obviously trolling for easy tickets to pad his stats.

 

[banker6796]

Well, in 1992 I had a 1991 Nissan 300zx. I was driving home late from work one night about 7:00 getting on I-64 at Hurstbourne Lane heading toward Louisville. I come up the ramp and am driving along and this Grand National comes up hard on my back bumper. I sped up a little, but not much, and the guy hammered down and went around me. I saw a guy and a blonde in the front, so I thought "what the hell", downshifted and went after him. When I caught him we were both running around 100. Up in front of us I see two marked police cars, so I get on the brakes. He noticed them a few seconds later and did the same. Both police cars took the next exit and we stomped it again. I started to pull away, and when I did, his whole car lit up, lights in the grill and inside the car. Freakin unmarked car and had baited me in. He was off duty and fine racing me until he started to lose in front of his woman. I know, because that's what he told me. He had radioed to the cop cars to have them exit.

Entrapment? Sure, but I didn't have to fall for it, it was my choice. Cost me $125 bucks. I told him it was a dick thing to do, but I wasn't going to argue with him. He laughed and gave me the ticket.

 

[riflearm2]

Well, in 1992 I had a 1991 Nissan 300zx. t.

Another new car?

E.T. is going to flip his shit when he sees this.

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

this Grand National

I see you didn't know before then the county cops had fvcking Grand Nationals. LMAO. You should have known it was a trick when that rice-burner actually pulled away from a Grand National.

Back on topic....this cop is a straight-up dick. Pissed because she told him like it is, and because she is smoking he wants to arrest her? Seriously, what the hell is that about? Now, she certainly is (or was) a dumbass. Don't give the cop lip, and it is a real asshole move to keep smoking when the cop is at your window. But she had every right to keep on smoking. And he had every right to be a dick and change that warning to a citation. But this is WAY over the top.

That tailgating thing is a little trick the cops do. They want you to speed up or mess up, usually they do it when looking for drunks. I just slow down if it is a two-lane road. I'll slow down to a stop if they want to take it there, and tell them my car was running bad for a minute sorry. I haven't had to yet, but damn I hate being tailgated; if it's not a cop and you tailgate me I'll just see how damn fast you really want to go. This happened to me the Saturday night of Memorial Day weekend, about 10 PM. I made a run to the store for some beer for the race next day (no Sunday beer sales in Indiana) and stopped by Taco Bell. Of course, leaving Taco Bell a deputy sheriff gets behind me. I guess he figured he might have him a drunk (Taco Bell!), and started that tailgating shit with me. I just did a nice 35 in a 40 until my road, and then did a nice 25 in a 30. I went left of center to dodge a rough part of the road, and he light up his lights. As soon as he walks up to the window and starts that left of center stuff, I told him I knew it was a cop behind me and I am was dodging that hole in the road the county is too lazy to fix, and I figured he would pull me over because he is out looking for drunk, but damn I am not hitting a hole for him. He asked if I lived around here, yeah I live right down the road and I dodge that fvckin' hole every day coming home from work. He just laughed and let me go. Does it pay to be white and middle class? Yeah. But being cool about it, not being mad, and having a little humor always helps. Turn on the dome light, shut off the car, hands on the wheel, they like that stuff. Common sense goes a long way.

 

[extragreen]

Another new car?

E.T. is going to flip his shit when he sees this.

It was a whole year old. Gets a pass.

 

[banker6796]

Yep, by 1992 I had quadrupled my 1988 income. Bought the 300 used with 12,000 miles on it. Worst car to drive in the snow ever produced.

 

[banker6796]

Oh, Raoul, I had rechipped and upgraded the car a little bit. Racing also isn't usually about the fastest car, it's who's willing to drive the fastest.

 

[GK4Herd]

If I didn't have family in the car I'd be tempted to slam on the brakes and claim I was braking for an animal. If he nailed me, it would be difficult to dispense blame since hitting a car from behind is almost always at fault. (Is there an instance where a car that hits a car in front of them isn't at fault?)

 

[herdfan06]

(Is there an instance where a car that hits a car in front of them isn't at fault?)

I would say cutting someone off on the highway while slamming on your brakes will cause you to be at fault.

 

[herdfan06]

Or throwing your car into reverse?

 

[i am herdman]

Or you could pay a small ticket or be nice and not make a small problem bigger.

Believe me, I have learned that the hard way(when I was younger).

That being said the cop lost his demeanor and control of the situation. He lost his temperament. He should have just wrote her the ticket and said take it up in court. She probably should have got a warning and then moved on from it. Should have never got a ticket or arrested for illegal lane change.

That being said number 2, they usually pull you for illegal lane change because they think something else is suspicious(drunk, impaired, etc.).

Not sure how she died though in prison. She should have never been there to start with.

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

Oh, Raoul, I had rechipped and upgraded the car a little bit. Racing also isn't usually about the fastest car, it's who's willing to drive the fastest.

The race is done when someone lets off lol.

Today, I don't think a stock GN exists outside of collectors. I just assume every one I see on the road is putting down at least 500 hp to the wheels. I don't mess with them.

 

[Herd Fever]

The car who hits the car infront of them is always at fault no matter if the car infront cuts them off and slams on their brakes. The rule is if the driver sees them they can react and avoid

 

[herdfan06]

The car who hits the car infront of them is always at fault no matter if the car infront cuts them off and slams on their brakes. The rule is if the driver sees them they can react and avoid

What you are saying is not accurate.

 

[Herd Fever]

I work in Insurance and used to work in claims. That is accurate as can be.

 

[CockyHerd]

The car who hits the car infront of them is always at fault no matter if the car infront cuts them off and slams on their brakes. The rule is if the driver sees them they can react and avoid

Actually depending on the state, mitigating factors can affect the judgment. (ie: Contributory vs Comparative)

The example of someone cutting you off and slamming on their brakes would certainly affect the amount of their damages that could be recovered. Depending on the law above the plaintiff in this case may receive full, partial, or no compensation.

However, if you are traveling on a roadway and the vehicle driving in front of you slams on their brakes (for whatever reason) , you are expected to have been travelling a safe distance that would enable you to avoid the accident.

The fun ones, are when rear-enders involve multiple vehicles and trying to establish percent of negligence.