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sessions announces plans to increase cash seizures from citizens

IMO, this type of action by the govt is yet another dangerous slippery slope and extreme overreach of power.

The irony. Civil liberties are important.... until it comes to turning over freedoms & sovereignty to others in the name of "saving the planet".

My guess is we need a consensus of economists and branded marketing message by the govt to tell us taking money and personal assets from individuals is needed to fight man made climate changes to get some of you back on board (on either side of this specific debate).
 
And then how many of those cases didn't wind up being shit? Dismissed, pled down to nothing. It's legalized bribery if that happens, IMO.

And I agree, serious constitutional issues.

I agree it is legal bribery, but in the same way someone with money being able to post bond to get out of jail while the poor person stays locked up.

The issue we always had was the person would immediately go back to Detroit/Columbus/Akron and go into hiding or do something more serious or catch a federal charge so the county would drop the charge because the person was already gonna get locked up somewhere else. But it always did feel like a police shakedown to me.
 
So it is an easy way to pay off the government and not get into legal trouble? Do you not find it scary that law enforcement is profiting by not fully enforcing the law and effectively turning a blind eye?

As far as I've seen, it hasn't really changed the legal charges brought but is used more for bond purposes. Most Defendants view it is easier to just forfeit the money for the reduction instead of jumping through all the hoops to get it back then using the money to pay their bond to get out.
 
IMO, this type of action by the govt is yet another dangerous slippery slope and extreme overreach of power.

The irony. Civil liberties are important.... until it comes to turning over freedoms & sovereignty to others in the name of "saving the planet".

My guess is we need a consensus of economists and branded marketing message by the govt to tell us taking money and personal assets from individuals is needed to fight man made climate changes to get some of you back on board (on either side of this specific debate).


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We've been attacking the supply side since Reagan. Maybe it's time to attack the demand side by getting serious about rehabilitation.

I have seen hundreds, if not thousands, of drug addicts go through the most intensive drug treatment programs available, including the BOP's RDAP. You know how many succeed? No exaggeration, less than 10%. Rehab only works if you want it to. Unfortunately, most do not.
 
I have seen hundreds, if not thousands, of drug addicts go through the most intensive drug treatment programs available, including the BOP's RDAP. You know how many succeed? No exaggeration, less than 10%. Rehab only works if you want it to. Unfortunately, most do not.
Maybe the should try Scientology. It worked for our resident cabinet maker. All it took was some supplements time in the sauna and auditing
 
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I have seen hundreds, if not thousands, of drug addicts go through the most intensive drug treatment programs available, including the BOP's RDAP. You know how many succeed? No exaggeration, less than 10%. Rehab only works if you want it to. Unfortunately, most do not.

I'll take 10% of lives saved over zero.

And I don't think out-patient treatment works for initial treatment, either.

One thing good about Obamacare was causing more coverage for mental health care. I am convinced (and as you know) prisons are warehouses for addiction and other mental issues. But we need dramatically more in-patient beds.

Now the big dealers, keep locking those bastards up. They are profiting from death.
 
Maybe the should try Scientology. It worked for our resident cabinet maker. All it took was some supplements time in the sauna and auditing

I have never claimed the Purification Rundown as a way to rehabilitate drug addiction, you liar. I have claimed and know for a fact that it's possible for it to remove toxins from the body.
 
I'll take 10% of lives saved over zero.

And I don't think out-patient treatment works for initial treatment, either.

One thing good about Obamacare was causing more coverage for mental health care. I am convinced (and as you know) prisons are warehouses for addiction and other mental issues. But we need dramatically more in-patient beds.

Now the big dealers, keep locking those bastards up. They are profiting from death.

Can't really disagree with any of that.
 
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I have never claimed the Purification Rundown as a way to rehabilitate drug addiction, you liar. I have claimed and know for a fact that it's possible for it to remove toxins from the body.
its seriously called the purification rundown?!?! And it is the basis of narcanon and other Scientology drug programs. So yes it aids in drug rehab. No one has ever said it was drug rehab
 
its seriously called the purification rundown?!?!

You find that amusing, or confusing?

And it is the basis of narcanon and other Scientology drug programs.

It's a basis for many people who study scientology or receive auditing, not just for drugs.

So yes it aids in drug rehab

So, you lied by stating that I have been a drug addict. Par for the course coming from you.
No one has ever said it was drug rehab

Why, of course you didn't say that.
 
You find that amusing, or confusing?



It's a basis for many people who study scientology or receive auditing, not just for drugs.



So, you lied by stating that I have been a drug addict. Par for the course coming from you.


Why, of course you didn't say that.
Dear lord yountake things and yourself Way to seriously. No one ever accused you of being a drug addict. You have said you've seen it work for you. You say you don't take this message board to seriously but your replies say otherwise.
To quote Sgt Hulka "lighten up Francis"
 
Hate to break it to you, but the "charging users" narrative is garbage. The federal government doesn't have the time or resources to charge people that are simply end drug users, unless there are extraordinary circumstances. Moreover, someone who is strictly an end user can't be charged with a conspiracy as a mere buyer/seller relationship does not meet the necessary element of a criminal agreement. Do drug users get charged in federal court? Absolutely. That's because 95% of drug dealers are also users. Bottom line - if you've been charged in a federal drug conspiracy, it's because you distributed drugs to someone else.

What rock have you lived under?
 
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