south carolina has its hand our for MORE federal dollars - s.c. is totally shameless and shameful

[dherd]

after the entire south carolina delegation voted not to send aid to the northeast for
hurricane clean up they have their huge tin cup out AGAIN asking for more of my money.

what makes it worse is they say they dont recall voting against the aid. they are not only
moochers, hypocrites, and liars they apparently have lost all contact with reality.

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-South Carolina, is asking the federal government to help his state in the aftermath of massive flooding over the weekend.


“Let’s just get through this thing, and whatever it costs, it costs,” Graham told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer Monday.

But Graham, a long shot candidate for the presidency, doesn’t seem to remember that he voted against similar measures for states requesting federal aid after Hurricane Sandy.


In 2013, he was one of 36 senators to vote “no” on the $50.5 billion Hurricane Sandy relief package. That vote in itself was hypocritical, as Graham had previously sought — and received — federal money for drought relief.

“I’m all for helping the people in New Jersey. I don’t really remember me voting that way,” Graham said Monday.

 

[i am herdman]

They held it up because the democrats attached a bunch of shit to it.

 

[i am herdman]

Shit that had nothing to do with the hurricane.

They got the money quickly as will south carolina and parts of North Carolina

Hopefully the governor of either state will not kiss Obamas ass like Christie did.

 

[extragreen]

They held it up because the democrats attached a bunch of shit to it.

I guess your memory is better than Grahams. So tell us what was attached that caused Lindsey to vote against the Hurricane Sandy relief bill........

 

[i am herdman]

No problem.

It's been 66 days since Hurricane Sandy slammed into the East Coast, causing major damage in New York and New Jersey. The storm was so powerful, it is in the running to become the most expensive storm for taxpayers on record. Historically, Congress has passed hurricane relief bills in the immediate aftermath of storm damage, but Sandy is a different story. Why? Congress wrote up Hurricane Sandy Relief legislation and then Harry Reid's Senate loaded it with pork. What's in it?Many things that hardly count as relief for victims.

The pork-barrel feast includes more than $8 million to buy cars and equipment for the Homeland Security and Justice departments. It also includes a whopping $150 million for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration to dole out to fisheries in Alaska and $2 million for the Smithsonian Institution to repair museum roofs in DC.

An eye-popping $13 billion would go to “mitigation” projects to prepare for future storms.

Other big-ticket items in the bill include $207 million for the VA Manhattan Medical Center; $41 million to fix up eight military bases along the storm’s path, including Guantanamo Bay, Cuba; $4 million for repairs at Kennedy Space Center in Florida; $3.3 million for the Plum Island Animal Disease Center and $1.1 million to repair national cemeteries.

Budget watchdogs have dubbed the 94-page emergency-spending bill “Sandy Scam.”

More:

$58.8 million for forest restoration on private land.
$197 million “to… protect coastal ecosystems and habitat impacted by Hurricane Sandy.”
$10.78 billion for public transportation, most of which is allocated to future construction and improvements, not disaster relief.
$17 billion for wasteful Community Development Block Grants (CDBG), a program that has become notorious for its use as a backdoor earmark program.

 

[i am herdman]

Here is another story with link:

http://nypost.com/2012/12/15/obama-...th-holiday-goodies-unrelated-to-storm-damage/

 

[extragreen]

Let's look at one of your "big ticket items" that is "wasteful". The 207 million VA Manhattan Medical Center. The center "sustained extensive flood damage during the storm. Flooding led to catastrophic failure of all the major utility systems that service the building, including electrical, heating, fire protection, elevator, water pumping, and information technology support structure. More than 150,000 square feet of outpatient and support areas were destroyed as well as the magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) unit and other clinical equipment."

If you go through your list, you find things that actually needed to be done.

 

[i am herdman]

Yehhh There Is No Pork there.

 

[herdfan429]

what about that other items on that list eg?

 

[extragreen]

Yehhh There Is No Pork there.

Yeah, there's spending in the bill other than to the military. So yeah, it's pork to youl

https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/152/text?overview=closed

 

[ThunderCat98]

No problem.

It's been 66 days since Hurricane Sandy slammed into the East Coast, causing major damage in New York and New Jersey. The storm was so powerful, it is in the running to become the most expensive storm for taxpayers on record. Historically, Congress has passed hurricane relief bills in the immediate aftermath of storm damage, but Sandy is a different story. Why? Congress wrote up Hurricane Sandy Relief legislation and then Harry Reid's Senate loaded it with pork. What's in it?Many things that hardly count as relief for victims.

The pork-barrel feast includes more than $8 million to buy cars and equipment for the Homeland Security and Justice departments. It also includes a whopping $150 million for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration to dole out to fisheries in Alaska and $2 million for the Smithsonian Institution to repair museum roofs in DC.

An eye-popping $13 billion would go to “mitigation” projects to prepare for future storms.

Other big-ticket items in the bill include $207 million for the VA Manhattan Medical Center; $41 million to fix up eight military bases along the storm’s path, including Guantanamo Bay, Cuba; $4 million for repairs at Kennedy Space Center in Florida; $3.3 million for the Plum Island Animal Disease Center and $1.1 million to repair national cemeteries.

Budget watchdogs have dubbed the 94-page emergency-spending bill “Sandy Scam.”

More:

$58.8 million for forest restoration on private land.
$197 million “to… protect coastal ecosystems and habitat impacted by Hurricane Sandy.”
$10.78 billion for public transportation, most of which is allocated to future construction and improvements, not disaster relief.
$17 billion for wasteful Community Development Block Grants (CDBG), a program that has become notorious for its use as a backdoor earmark program.

Oh snap! Greed just got . . .

 

[dherd]

1. I AM CERTAIN THAT NORTHEASTERN DEMS COULD ARGUE WASTEFUL SPENDING
ON S.C. RELIEF AS WELL - HOPEFULLY THEY WILL AND GIVE S.C. A TASTE OF
ITS OWN IDIOCY.
2. WHY DOES S.C. WANT THE MONEY IN THE FIRST PLACE? ARENT THEY THE
GET THE FED. GOVT OFF MY BACK STATE?
3. S.C. ALREADY GETS 7 OR 8 TIMES MORE FEDERAL DOLLARS BACK THAN THEY
PAY IN LET THEM USE THE MONEY WE ALREADY GIVE THEM.

 

[CockyHerd]

This isn't a Party problem, it's a Washington problem. For decades every bill before Congress has crap/pork attached to it. Both parties are guilty.

Disaster Relief bills are the worst, because they think they can slip this or that on to the bill and no one will notice. Plus they figure it's easier to get passed because they can publicly slam those who vote against "Disaster Relief". However, it's become such a common occurrence, that it becomes a pissing contest as to who can add the most.

I saw the interview and thought Graham handled it pretty well considering he was blindsided by Wolf/CNN. Many in Congress would have said, "F&%$ you Wolf, I'm here to talk about an ongoing disaster in my home state, Jacka$$."

Hopefully South Carolina gets all the money needed to begin to rebuild from this terrible disaster.

 

[Herd Fever]

They held it up because the democrats attached a bunch of shit to it.

Are you ****ing kidding me? Have you ever seen first hand the destruction Superstorm Sandy did to the coast line of New Jersey and New York, or what the massive flooding did to the NYC Subway system? The thousands of homes and business destroyed by flooding and fallen trees. The fact the storm was a once in a lifetime storm and it called for more preventative measures that was needed because hey When was the last time a storm like that hit the NYC Metro area.

You say some dumb conservative shit but this tops it all

 

[extragreen]

Oh snap! Greed just got . . .

I'm guessing you didn't read the bill I linked. No, I'm not guessing.

 

[raleighherdfan]

No way Greed read his own link.

 

[i am herdman]

Are you ****ing kidding me? Have you ever seen first hand the destruction Superstorm Sandy did to the coast line of New Jersey and New York, or what the massive flooding did to the NYC Subway system? The thousands of homes and business destroyed by flooding and fallen trees. The fact the storm was a once in a lifetime storm and it called for more preventative measures that was needed because hey When was the last time a storm like that hit the NYC Metro area.

You say some dumb conservative shit but this tops it all

I have seen what hurricanes and storms have done first hand. I live in NC and have a home in SC. Don't be an idiot.

Nobody was really against helping people but there was a bunch of damn pork attached to it and it held it up.

 

[dherd]

well lets all hope the new england delegation calls s.c. relief pork and
lets s.c. wade through their own sewage for a year or the way
all the southern states did the northeast.
as grandpa dherd used to say - two can play that GAME!

 

[i am herdman]

well lets all hope the new england delegation calls s.c. relief pork and
lets s.c. wade through their own sewage for a year or the way
all the southern states did the northeast.
as grandpa dherd used to say - two can play that GAME!

OK....I am sure they will attach pork to it.That's the way it works.

And, the people in NJ got their fed money just as SC will. Obama played a game after the Sandy disaster and he caused the problem.

Everything he touches turns into a big pudding pile of shi(.

 

[extragreen]

I see you didn't read the link either

 

[i am herdman]

dherd, why do you want to hurt poor people and black people in South Carolina?

LOL, compassionate liberalism.

 

[extragreen]

dherd, why do you want to hurt poor people and black people in South Carolina?

LOL, compassionate liberalism.

Don't you tell us that the poor are poor because of their choices in life? Looks like the poor people made a bad choice by living in South Carolina.

 

[i am herdman]

Don't you tell us that the poor are poor because of their choices in life? Looks like the poor people made a bad choice by living in South Carolina.

South Carolina asked to leave in 1861. Now you are going to have to pay.

 

[extragreen]

South Carolina asked to leave in 1861. Now you are going to have to pay.

I shouldn't have to lay for their bad choices. Sick and tired of South Carolina wanting me to pay while they just sit around waiting for hand outs.

 

[herdfan429]

I shouldn't have to lay for their bad choices. Sick and tired of South Carolina wanting me to pay while they just sit around waiting for hand outs.

Sounds like how you treat your employees

 

[extragreen]

Sounds like how you treat your employees

Sounds like you have nothing to add

 

[Herd Fever]

I shouldn't have to lay for their bad choices. Sick and tired of South Carolina wanting me to pay while they just sit around waiting for hand outs.

The irony is a republican state asking for handouts

 

[extragreen]

The irony is a republican state asking for handouts

Yep. But for the record, I want us to help the affected areas with any and all they need.

 

[Herd Fever]

I do too, I just find it ironic

 

[i am herdman]

I shouldn't have to lay for their bad choices. Sick and tired of South Carolina wanting me to pay while they just sit around waiting for hand outs.

Hellooo, West Virginia!

 

[i am herdman]

Yep. But for the record, I want us to help the affected areas with any and all they need.

Republicans are not against helping people with a hand up. Obviously that is needed after disasters like Sandy and this event.

But, when you attach a bunch of pork to an emergency spending bill to help after a natural disaster then someone has to keep an eye out for that kind of thing.

Reality is the politicians will do the same thing with this money. Attach a bunch of pork on the back of a flood.

 

[extragreen]

Let's not kid ourselves. Hundreds of billions of pork dollars are appropriated to the military each year. So the opinion of what constitutes pork depends on who you're talking to at the moment.

 

[raleighherdfan]

I agree with Greed and the other libs. Cut the military. Soldiers are nothing but "pork" programs on over load. Screw them. They are sucking off the govt teet. Bring'em home and put them out of work damn it! Its much better if we put them out of the military, and on welfare and govt food cards. That's one hell of a economic stimulus.

I am telling you guys. This liberal thing is freaking easy.

 

[Herd Fever]

I agree with Greed and the other libs. Cut the military. Soldiers are nothing but "pork" programs on over load. Screw them. They are sucking off the govt teet. Bring'em home and put them out of work damn it! Its much better if we put them out of the military, and on welfare and govt food cards. That's one hell of a economic stimulus.

I am telling you guys. This liberal thing is freaking easy.

See nobody is saying that. And they are better off not in the military anyway with the way this government treats their veterens

 

[i am herdman]

Who is the commander in chief and who is in charge of the VA?

Bho

 

[Herd Fever]

Who is the commander in chief and who is in charge of the VA?

Bho

Come on this government hasn't cared about their veterans since they came home from Vietnam. They are just a pawn for the government and the Military Industrial Complex

 

[herdfan429]

I dont think you will find anyone that says there is no wasteful spending in the military, except those in congress that dont want to lose defense related jobs in their districts

 

[Herd Fever]

Remember the Pentagon is still missing $8.3T

 

[CockyHerd]

I dont think you will find anyone that says there is no wasteful spending in the military, except those in congress that dont want to lose defense related jobs in their districts

Like the $120 Million we are spending in Ohio to build tanks that the Pentagon says we no longer need?

Or the millions we continue to spend on A-10s that the Pentagon says are obsolete?

 

[raleighherdfan]

See nobody is saying that. And they are better off not in the military anyway with the way this government treats their veterens

Sure that's what they are saying. I don't really need facts. All I need is hyperbole without looking at the big picture. I am a liberal who complains about the military industrial complex. Bring home the soldiers, close our bases around the world and cut back our military size and scope. Layoff the soldiers. Who are we to be involved in other countries anyway. Our military doesn't need to be there. All of it is a scam created by the military based corporations...........

(easy being a liberal)