Policy required her to give 50%...
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/opi...iving-zeros-david-whitley-20180925-story.html
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/opi...iving-zeros-david-whitley-20180925-story.html
Teacher fired for giving 0% for assignments not turned in.
- Thread starter GK4Herd
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frankly, if that's the policy, she deserves to be reprimanded. policy is bullshit, imo, but if it's policy, you follow it or suffer the consequences.
I agree. Go to board meetings, give them shit, get it in the press, use the union.
Or just quit. Tell them you think that policy is so dumb that they can shove the job up their ass. Been there, done that.
Sometimes even I have to know what battles to fight. Little Johnny gets a 50% which is still a F and teacher herdman still has a job.
Yep and it teaches johnny that he has no accountability and doesn’t have to do any work
Well, my house payment is going to be made and I am not going to lose my house because Little Johnny is going to fail anyway.
I’m arguing more against the policy itself than teachers following the policy
If Little Johnny lives in WV, chances are his parents don't give a shit about his education or his grandparents are raising him because his parents are idiots or strung out on drugs.
Damn! I never thought I would say this. I actually agree with 429 on this.
Charter schools here in Florida will give students passing grades for this kind of stuff all the time. If they don’t they lose and average of $12k per student in state funding if they fail out. It is well known if you kid is a flunky or piece of shit you put them in a charter school and they will move them thru the ranks to get the state paycheck.
Yep. You better keep that job, because Little Johnny is going to be a drain on you the taxpayer anyway.
It's being fully accountable. If you fail, it doesn't matter if you get a 0 or a 50. Both are failing.
Sure it does especially over the course of a semester. Say You have 5 grades 3 100’s 1 85 and a 0 vs 3 100s an 85 and a 50. It would be like a normal person not showing up for work and getting paid half their daily wage.
And if the rule is that they get paid half of their wages for not showing up, then that is what is fair.
You can not show up to work tomorrow and get paid your entire wage . . . just about any person on here can do the same. Why? Because the rule is that you have you vacation days, sick days, mental health days, personal days, etc.
So the rule is never to give a student anything lower than 50% but the article also notes the district still utilizes a 0-100 grading scale. Is it possible to actually put in effort, get a 49% (or lower) but someone who doesn't even attempt the assignment would get a higher grade?
I'm 100% in agreeaance with you here. Awful policy, but It's not worth my job.
Devils advocate though. What if she's got a lot of dough? Or has a sugar daddy and doesn't need the job? In that case this is an effective way to call attention to this garbage policy.
If she starts suing for wrongful termination or some shit like that, that will be crap though.
The problem is this. What do you do to the kid that actually turns it and the homework was incorrect? Do you give them a 60 or perhaps worse? Little Johnny does nothing and gets a 50. Do you inflate it on the other side? The works was really a 60 but, you give them an 80 for turning it in? Do you give the kid that really gets an 90 a 140 for turning it in on time?
When you get paid to keep students around stuff tends to slide through the cracks.
Jesus, you two should be the ones getting a 0. It took me 60 seconds to read the article. It clearly explains that the district has a 0-100 grading policy but the school handbook states no grades lower than 50. So if you get 1 question out of 100 correct, you get a 50. If you get 50 out of 100 correct, you get a 50. If you don't turn it in, you get a 50.
How can you guys still have the questions you're asking when the article clearly explains it? The district would give you both a 0, but the school would give you a 50.
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How the hell is it 100% if you only answer 50 correct out of 100? That is a damn 50%. BUt, they can't do that because Mush Brain gets a 50 for not doing jack shit. So, they have to come up with this.
That would be likes saying you are batting .500 when you are a .250 hitter. Bob Ueker is now in the Hall of Fame! A better hitter than Ted Williams. Hell, just don't show up to the game and you had two hits.
Life doesn't work that way.
Again, I would give the mush brain his 50 and keep my job. But, that grading scale is BS.
That was a type on my part. They are all supposed to be 50s.
Christ, even the school gave you a 0 instead of a 50 now.
So Mush Brain does nothing and gets a 50. Another guy at least turns it in and tries and he gets a 50?
How is that legit?
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I'm asking because I don't understand how a district has a 0-100 scale under their "uniform standard" & then sets a policy that awards zero effort with half a score as someone who busts their ass. I suspect this policy is a reaction to hitting performance mandates/scores. Frankly, I see this as hugely disrespectful to teachers.
Guys remember that not only is rifle a Grammy nominated limo driver ncaa football coach but he’s also the worlds greatest teacher/administrator and knows everything. There is no point in arguing with him
Bingo. There's a lot of funding opportunities, and schools don't want to miss out. But then, it doesn't seem like there's any governing body higher than the superintendent keeping school systems accountable for how well or poorly they manage their money.
There should be an audit process when a school system requests a new tax levy and they start to threaten with dropping programs like art and Home Ec if they don't get the levy passed.
Stupid, they aren’t arguing with me about it. They clearly don’t understand the rules of it based on their questions. Back to giving ten year olds back rubs!
Yet another example of rifle struggling with 5th grade math.
Let's say, for the sake of argument, that your overall grade is based on turning in an assignment every Friday for 10 weeks. You know that the rules state you get a score of 50% even if you don't turn in the assignment. If you simply choose to turn in an assignment every other Friday, and get 100% on each assignment you do on the opposing Fridays, your average will be 75%. And because you took advantage of a rule that rewarded non-performance, you pass with a C.
OTOH, if you knew you would get no credit for a paper that you failed to turn in, and did the exact same thing as in the example above, what would your overall average and grade be then? 50% and an F. You would then have insentive to actually do the work every week.
So...we just learned that one is not being fully held accountable when given 50% credit for doing no work. You're welcome.
5th grade math, rifle. It's really not hard.
You can not answer a single question correctly on the SAT, and your score will be a 400. Is that rewarding "doing no work" also? You can get every single question wrong on the ACT and you still won't get a 0. Is that rewarding "doing no work" also?
Your feeble mind simply doesn't understand the concept. They don't allow 0s. Is it a measure done to assure more students pass or is it more related to providing self-esteem to students who may routinely see scores under 50% and shut down? I'm guessing the latter, but it doesn't really matter in this discussion.
What matters is your inability to comprehend a concept being used. It is no more rewarding of "doing no work" than how the SAT's bare minimum score is 400.
Speaking of 5th grade, did you not learn how to spell that word then? Incentive has a "c" and not an "s".
If a contractor did not do any work, would you them 50% of their bid to boost their self-esteem and help ensure they do not shutdown and give up on life?
How many contractors have you dealt with that don't require an advanced payment before beginning work?
